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The part in bold is the key. The grid today is not what the grid in 2035 will be. Nobody is standing still.
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09-10-2021, 11:46 AM | #58 |
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Tail wagging elephant. First Porsche (Audi actually has done most of the heavy lifting on this over the years) would have to prove that it works and is profitable. Let’s assume that they are on to something (they aren’t). The next step is to convince Exxon, Aramco, Shell et al that this is in their best interest. Good luck with that.
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Corporate plans are even more subject to change. I can't see GM or Ford choosing to go out of business if the hoped-for rates of replacement of ICE sales with EV sales ends up not happening. That's out of their hands for the same reasons. Norm
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You are exactly right, no one is standing still, but that applies to the demand side as well. On top of EVs, more and more other things will come into play to consume power, things like IoT and A/C. And oh yeah, don't forget the servers for streaming services and crypto mining! Those things consume enough power for people to start studying their effects on emissions. Streaming vs. physical media emissions and Bitcoin emissions were definitely grabbing some attention a few months back. Those things were negligible 15 years ago. The problem is if the supply can keep up with the demand. And I have mentioned this before to other threads, but there is also the problem of distribution. How do you street park and charge at the same time, for example? I don't think those block heater plugs are exactly set up for charging an EV. Apartment buildings will also have fun with including a charging solution for every stall. So yeah, 2035 is a bit optimistic, to put lightly. Quote:
I will admit, though, that EV's silence could help you to have a little fun on the streets without cops looking your way. The sensation is what's really important. I don't ride bikes, but going 0-60 in 2 seconds in a car and in a bike is completely different from what every rider tells me.
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The seat-filler will be voted out next election and Republican will take her place and reverse her silly order.
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Seriously? Same with Seattle and WA, people act like the only place you can live in the entire state is downtown Seattle, for some crazy reason. I wouldn't live in Florida in a million yeas due to the lack of mountains and the sports/outdoor activities that go along with them. If you like the ocean and swamps though, Florida might be for you. For sure, there's a ton of homeless people in the Florida downtowns though, so to bring that one up is just bizarre.
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The thing about EV charging too is that it occurs mostly during off-peak hours, which is actually better for the grid as far as using it efficiently, removing peaks/drops, etc. Peak hours are generally during the daytime and early evening, EVs charging all night probably doesn't even make a significant dent until some truly drastic numbers of EV% that probably won't be reached for 20 years. This is a big part of why EVs work right now, in many locations.
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And again, distribution. Gotta convince the house owners and strata managements!
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The thing that they are not telling you is that the Grid can not support the masses having all electric vehicles. California has roving blackouts now, what will they do when they push everyone into EVs.
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