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Maroon 6.2L SS · 09-08-2019, 03:51 PM

Hey all. 2010 Camaro SS A6 (most major bolt-ons with stock gears and stock converter and no cam) Last week I decided to remove the passenger seat to save nearly 60lbs. Today at the track (everything near identical to last outing a couple weeks ago) I spun a little on the launch. Never did this before. My 60' was a little slower and E.T was a tenth slower. Do you think that removing the passenger seat weight caused me to spin because of less weight near the rear wheels???

0stones0 · 09-08-2019, 03:54 PM

Would seem to be an obvious conclusion but, could be other factors.

Vegas Bound · 09-08-2019, 07:12 PM

No

SquawkVFR · 09-08-2019, 07:30 PM

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You can’t make this stuff up...

zlathim · 09-09-2019, 01:19 PM

I seriously doubt it.

Vegas Bound · 09-09-2019, 01:59 PM

I once made a pass with 1/2 tank and no spin, then spun with 1/4 tank. I'm gonna blame the fuel level.

Chris49066SS · 09-09-2019, 03:11 PM

Maroon, I think you really worry a little too much about little things. I usually see most of your posts over the past year and you tend to let little things get to ya. You usually are pretty consistent with your times that you do run, except for a while back when the weather was insanely hot. You're doing fine for the few mods that you have.

Here though, and this is just an opinion, but I think you should put your passenger seat back in, and look more at rotational weight reduction like wheels, brakes, driveshaft, before you start gutting that nice car. Also, you really could use a converter if not a cam as well, if you have the means. Good luck, and it was only a .1 difference. They may not have prepped the track as good, someone may have dripped water on the track from the water box, theres just all kinds of questions you could ask, but I doubt that having your passenger seat out is the reason.

Maroon 6.2L SS · 09-09-2019, 05:18 PM

Thanks guys for bringing me down to reality. I have a very analytical type personality and I like to ask a lot of questions when I can't figure things out. I now understand that I shouldn't sweat the little things. There's too many factors involved. You guys are great though. All the questions I've asked over the last year could've been ignored, but I still got answers from you.

SquawkVFR · 09-09-2019, 06:31 PM

You’re a good sport.

Find a mentor to learn from and ask these questions in private. We all learned things in different ways. If you were a bit more knowledgeable about traction and weight and hp, this entertaining tidbit would have never even been on your radar.

In other words....there’s a shit ton of other stuff to worry about before ya get to removing the passengers seats and taking a dump before racin’ to lighten’ the load and control wheel spin.

Pro Stock John · 09-10-2019, 02:20 PM

Well.... maybe. 60 lbs is after all 60 lbs.

If you on a stock (hard) tire, you are going what, 12.8's on a 1.9 60?

(edit)

I see you posted you have 18" 555Rs. Those tires like a good strong burnout for the first pass or they don't work. I went a best of 1.85 on those and then I could not hook my combo anymore. I went 12.37 on those in 20's, and 11.85 1.59 with NT05Rs and more mods.

09-08-2019, 03:51 PM	#1
Maroon 6.2L SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS A6 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 183	Passenger seat removal now tire spin? Hey all. 2010 Camaro SS A6 (most major bolt-ons with stock gears and stock converter and no cam) Last week I decided to remove the passenger seat to save nearly 60lbs. Today at the track (everything near identical to last outing a couple weeks ago) I spun a little on the launch. Never did this before. My 60' was a little slower and E.T was a tenth slower. Do you think that removing the passenger seat weight caused me to spin because of less weight near the rear wheels???

09-08-2019, 03:54 PM	#2
0stones0 It don’t come easy. Drives: 2010 2SS RS M6 Join Date: May 2014 Location: WI Posts: 2,226 View My Garage	Would seem to be an obvious conclusion but, could be other factors. __________________

09-09-2019, 01:19 PM	#5
zlathim Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Idaho Posts: 726	I seriously doubt it. __________________ GPI SS2; EE E2 catch can; SP 1 7/8" LT Headers w/ hfc; FM AT 3" cat-back; CAI Cold Air Intake; AEM Wideband Tuned by GPI McCleod RXT; MGW flat stick; Ram Clutch slave cylinder & hydraulic adjuster BMR cradle & diff bushings, trailing arms, toe rods & upper control arm bushings Hotchkis sub-frame brace Stop Tech Z-23 brakes 4.10 gears, Eaton Truetrac, LPW diff cover Best 1/4 mile 12.073 @ 115.68 mph 3,300 ft DA

09-09-2019, 03:11 PM	#7
Chris49066SS Drives: 2010 SS L99 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,634	Maroon, I think you really worry a little too much about little things. I usually see most of your posts over the past year and you tend to let little things get to ya. You usually are pretty consistent with your times that you do run, except for a while back when the weather was insanely hot. You're doing fine for the few mods that you have. Here though, and this is just an opinion, but I think you should put your passenger seat back in, and look more at rotational weight reduction like wheels, brakes, driveshaft, before you start gutting that nice car. Also, you really could use a converter if not a cam as well, if you have the means. Good luck, and it was only a .1 difference. They may not have prepped the track as good, someone may have dripped water on the track from the water box, theres just all kinds of questions you could ask, but I doubt that having your passenger seat out is the reason. __________________ Previous PB:11.079 @ 122.99mph.. New setup time: TBD The 11.079 pass: https://youtu.be/pz27Zq54t_E Build thread - www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555371

09-10-2019, 02:20 PM	#10
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	Well.... maybe. 60 lbs is after all 60 lbs. If you on a stock (hard) tire, you are going what, 12.8's on a 1.9 60? (edit) I see you posted you have 18" 555Rs. Those tires like a good strong burnout for the first pass or they don't work. I went a best of 1.85 on those and then I could not hook my combo anymore. I went 12.37 on those in 20's, and 11.85 1.59 with NT05Rs and more mods. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

09-08-2019, 07:12 PM	#3
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	No

09-08-2019, 07:30 PM	#4
SquawkVFR Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: May 2014 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,971	You can’t make this stuff up...

09-09-2019, 01:59 PM	#6
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	I once made a pass with 1/2 tank and no spin, then spun with 1/4 tank. I'm gonna blame the fuel level.

09-09-2019, 05:18 PM	#8
Maroon 6.2L SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS A6 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Brighton, MI Posts: 183	Thanks guys for bringing me down to reality. I have a very analytical type personality and I like to ask a lot of questions when I can't figure things out. I now understand that I shouldn't sweat the little things. There's too many factors involved. You guys are great though. All the questions I've asked over the last year could've been ignored, but I still got answers from you.

09-09-2019, 06:31 PM	#9
SquawkVFR Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: May 2014 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,971	You’re a good sport. Find a mentor to learn from and ask these questions in private. We all learned things in different ways. If you were a bit more knowledgeable about traction and weight and hp, this entertaining tidbit would have never even been on your radar. In other words....there’s a shit ton of other stuff to worry about before ya get to removing the passengers seats and taking a dump before racin’ to lighten’ the load and control wheel spin.