What are great alts other than ZL1 and Z06 - Page 2

RamAir02 · 05-07-2019, 07:28 PM

Just get another ZL1. Chances are that one won't have problems. And they're (IMO) the best bang for the buck, period.

DangerZL1 · 05-07-2019, 07:32 PM

I like American V8s, but out of the cars mentioned I’d go with a GTR. They all have their cons and I’ve read of too many engine problems and ticking noises to even consider a Mustang. It’s too bad you feel the engine problems with the ZL1 can’t be resolved. Hang out on some other forums before making another jump.

CPB · 05-07-2019, 07:43 PM

C63 AMG.

raptor5244 · 05-07-2019, 07:45 PM

If you like hearing the engine wind out and make great noise then the Shelby GT 350s are fun. Down on torque compared to the LT4 but have a lot of character, use the Tremec 6 speed and fun to wind out to 8000 rpm. Also, the Shelbys are not a dime a dozen on the street. The downside is that you can get similar performance from a lower cost Mustang GT with Performance Pack.

Hellcat is great of course but and the look is evidently timeless since it is still going after 12 years since they brought it back. Lots of attitude with those cars, widebody for sure. The Redeye is nice but I am not sure it is worth all the extra coin. The space is great. In fact, I hear a lot of the guys prefer the Charger Hellcat. Something about 707hp and 4 doors. Pass on the manuals in the Dodges though. The ZF8 is the better transmission in these cars.

I would pass on the GTR. It is cool but I think you will find it lacks the fun of the ZL1 and Z06. If I had to choose between a GTR and Telsa M3 Performance, I would take the Tesla.

I have a 2019 Grand Sport vert with M7. Not as much horsepower but I think it is perfect for the street. Top down, ripping through the gears and listening to the NPP exhaust wail. The handling in the GS is obviously just like the Z06 with a little less drama as you can put all the power down.

If you can wait for the reveal of the new C8 Corvette. Mid-engine, probably 500hp, true DCT and probably start for $70k. If you only want the high-end model then have to wait for the 1000hp Z06 model.

If you really want to go nuts. Get a Miata and stick one of those LS3 conversions in it.

collinms · 05-07-2019, 07:47 PM

Lol, what happened to your car? Sounds serious. Mine was just in for a failed oil pump at 7k miles.

Markoz28 · 05-07-2019, 07:54 PM

GTR

Sakudog · 05-07-2019, 08:04 PM

CPO 16 Cayman GT4
CPO 718 GTS
CPO 991 911 Turbo
CPO 997.1/2 911 GT3

...but as I've found out, there is no perfect car or ownership experience. The Porsche dealers **** you over way worse than GM in most cases, they just do it while you sip on a Starbuck Coffee and you cruise around in a Macan loaner.

Pick your poison but there is no better deal on a track worthy car with a Warranty than a C7 GS or C6 Camaro ZL1/1LE.

unavailablezl1 · 05-07-2019, 08:14 PM

I have had a BMW M3 and two Mustangs as you can see, I would not go back to both. Too many problems. This is my first new GM product and no problems. So this one is a good one compared to my past.

Get a C63 AMG. It is a four door and lots of fun

Stealth7 · 05-07-2019, 08:29 PM

Doomed from the start: 1LE with manual for daily driver.

Replacements:

1. HC Redeye widebody-- great room for you and your family and very, very fun. You can get a separate track car if that is important.

2. New Mustang GT 500. Should have all the power you need as well as handling.

3. A 2018 ZL1 with the A10. There are exceptional deals available and this is a spectacular car so far (7600 mi. and 1 year).

4. 2019 M5 Competition--used if you can find it, but some are seeing discounts of 10% on new ones now. This will be the most versatile car. This was the car I had on order before I purchased the ZL1.

Before my current car I had a F10 BMW 550i M-Sport w/Dinan AND a 2014 yellow/black stripes loaded Viper GTS. I prefer the ZL1 A10 to both, except for the cargo hauling capacity of the BMW.

Good luck with your search!

396ssrat · 05-07-2019, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaskedRacerX

If you go HC or HC Redeye, get a widebody - not only does it look __much__ better, but it improves the handling quite a bit (I'd take a HC widebody over a Redeye, if the latter was the standard body).

If you like handling, unique, and aren't married to a 4-seater, I'd seriously look into the last generation Viper.

... or really change it up and do something like a 911TT

(I realize that's not a V8, not American, and the engine is in the wrong end, but it's a spectacular vehicle).

Is a "wide body" like the Demon with the Nissan Truck fender flares? They look stupid.

MaskedRacerX · 05-07-2019, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

Is a "wide body" like the Demon with the Nissan Truck fender flares? They look stupid.

I think they work well with the car's design and old school styling, and allowing for a 305 at all four corners that totally changes the stance. Look, I'm not some bumble**** Cletus that "Do like them big ol' fenders"

I have some fundamental grasp of automotive design (design background, a number of winning show cars), and get that they're not a full fender replacement, but in the case of the Challenger - they work - both aesthetically and functionally.

laynlo15 · 05-07-2019, 08:57 PM

Wow, I've had my Camaro for 3.5 years. Finally broke the motor last year after 180 passes down the track and 12,500 miles and lots of boost. Still have the original tranny, rear, axles. This year I've made about 16 passes at 14 lbs of boost, still all good. Sorry you've had so many problems.

1hprush · 05-07-2019, 09:58 PM

From reading some of your post and seeing other cars you have owned, you need to stay American Muscle. Yes, the GTR is a badass car, and although it sounds great, it still lacks the muscle car feel. I would suggest looking at and test driving a Gen 4/5 Viper. It is a raw American muscle car, it has classic muscle car lines besides looking unique too. The V10 packs plenty of power, pull and torque and demands a drivers respect. It took me several months of owning one before getting comfortable with the bones and capability of the car. However, sorry to see you leave so soon...

JD2018_ZL1 · 05-07-2019, 10:07 PM

I don’t know if it has to be modern but I also have a 14 GT500. I’d say that right now is a good time to get one while they are not expensive and can be found with low miles. I haven’t done anything to mine because I don’t mod. You can get power very easy from them they are really great cars.

05-07-2019, 07:28 PM	#15
RamAir02 Shadow Gray '19 ZLE M6 Drives: '19 ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 1,441 View My Garage	Just get another ZL1. Chances are that one won't have problems. And they're (IMO) the best bang for the buck, period. __________________ 2019 ZL1 1LE \| M6 \| SGM \| PDR \| CF Dash \| Nav \| Wheel Locks PPF \| Paint Correction \| ZL1 Addons Rock Guards \| ZL1 Addons Lift Pads \| ZL1 Addons Feather Lite Tow Hook \| JWM Smoked Sidemarkers \| Wildhammer Smoked Rear Reflectors \| JWM License Plate LEDs \| RotoFab CAI \| ADM IC Reservoir v2 \| BC Forged RZ05 \| SPL Toe Arms \| BW Brake Deflectors \| CMS Roll Bar \| Schroth Profi II ASM Harnesses . Sold: '99 Trans Am (bolt-ons & cam) \| '00 WS6 (bolt-ons, heads, cam, 12 bolt) \| '05 CTS-V (bolt-ons, short throw) \| '10 SS/RS M6 (short throw, CAI, coilovers, LTs, catback, JRE tune) \| '01 WS6 YouTube

05-07-2019, 07:45 PM	#18
raptor5244 Drives: 2022 CT4-V Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 2,723	If you like hearing the engine wind out and make great noise then the Shelby GT 350s are fun. Down on torque compared to the LT4 but have a lot of character, use the Tremec 6 speed and fun to wind out to 8000 rpm. Also, the Shelbys are not a dime a dozen on the street. The downside is that you can get similar performance from a lower cost Mustang GT with Performance Pack. Hellcat is great of course but and the look is evidently timeless since it is still going after 12 years since they brought it back. Lots of attitude with those cars, widebody for sure. The Redeye is nice but I am not sure it is worth all the extra coin. The space is great. In fact, I hear a lot of the guys prefer the Charger Hellcat. Something about 707hp and 4 doors. Pass on the manuals in the Dodges though. The ZF8 is the better transmission in these cars. I would pass on the GTR. It is cool but I think you will find it lacks the fun of the ZL1 and Z06. If I had to choose between a GTR and Telsa M3 Performance, I would take the Tesla. I have a 2019 Grand Sport vert with M7. Not as much horsepower but I think it is perfect for the street. Top down, ripping through the gears and listening to the NPP exhaust wail. The handling in the GS is obviously just like the Z06 with a little less drama as you can put all the power down. If you can wait for the reveal of the new C8 Corvette. Mid-engine, probably 500hp, true DCT and probably start for $70k. If you only want the high-end model then have to wait for the 1000hp Z06 model. If you really want to go nuts. Get a Miata and stick one of those LS3 conversions in it. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Black - Sold 2013 Camaro SS 1LE - Black - M6 - Sold 2016 Camaro SS - Mosaic Black - A8 - Sold 2017 C7 Stingray - M7 Coupe - Sold 2019 C7 Grand Sport M7 Vert - Sold 2021 Camaro ZL1 - Black - A10 - Sold 2019 Tesla Model 3 2022 CT4-V Blackwing - M6

05-07-2019, 08:04 PM	#21
Sakudog Drives: 2019 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: The ATX Posts: 966	CPO 16 Cayman GT4 CPO 718 GTS CPO 991 911 Turbo CPO 997.1/2 911 GT3 ...but as I've found out, there is no perfect car or ownership experience. The Porsche dealers **** you over way worse than GM in most cases, they just do it while you sip on a Starbuck Coffee and you cruise around in a Macan loaner. Pick your poison but there is no better deal on a track worthy car with a Warranty than a C7 GS or C6 Camaro ZL1/1LE. __________________ Ryker #29 2019 ZL1 1LE A10 2015 Z/28 #809

05-07-2019, 08:14 PM	#22
unavailablezl1 Drives: 2019 Silverado Z71 6.2L A10 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Grapevine Posts: 2,075	I have had a BMW M3 and two Mustangs as you can see, I would not go back to both. Too many problems. This is my first new GM product and no problems. So this one is a good one compared to my past. Get a C63 AMG. It is a four door and lots of fun __________________ Current ride 2019 Silverado Z71 LTZ 6.2L L87 425hp A10, 4 inch BDS Lift with Fox Factory Race 2.5 Coilovers, Borla Cat back (15HP bump), BFG KM3's 33's. Past Rides 2017 M6 Camaro ZL1 Hyper Blue 2016 M6 GT350 White with blue strips 2014 M6 Mustang GT Premium Track Pack Ruby Red 2012 M6 M3 Melbourne Red Metallic

05-07-2019, 08:57 PM	#26
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	Wow, I've had my Camaro for 3.5 years. Finally broke the motor last year after 180 passes down the track and 12,500 miles and lots of boost. Still have the original tranny, rear, axles. This year I've made about 16 passes at 14 lbs of boost, still all good. Sorry you've had so many problems. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

05-07-2019, 07:32 PM	#16
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,935	I like American V8s, but out of the cars mentioned I’d go with a GTR. They all have their cons and I’ve read of too many engine problems and ticking noises to even consider a Mustang. It’s too bad you feel the engine problems with the ZL1 can’t be resolved. Hang out on some other forums before making another jump.

05-07-2019, 07:43 PM	#17
CPB Drives: 2019 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 23	C63 AMG.

05-07-2019, 07:47 PM	#19
collinms Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 Summit White Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Cumming, Georgia Posts: 511	Lol, what happened to your car? Sounds serious. Mine was just in for a failed oil pump at 7k miles.

05-07-2019, 07:54 PM	#20
Markoz28 Drives: 18 ZL1 nightfall grey A10 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: RGV Texas Posts: 1,527	GTR

05-07-2019, 08:29 PM	#23
Stealth7 Drives: Gen V Viper GTS Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: SoCal Posts: 260	Doomed from the start: 1LE with manual for daily driver. Replacements: 1. HC Redeye widebody-- great room for you and your family and very, very fun. You can get a separate track car if that is important. 2. New Mustang GT 500. Should have all the power you need as well as handling. 3. A 2018 ZL1 with the A10. There are exceptional deals available and this is a spectacular car so far (7600 mi. and 1 year). 4. 2019 M5 Competition--used if you can find it, but some are seeing discounts of 10% on new ones now. This will be the most versatile car. This was the car I had on order before I purchased the ZL1. Before my current car I had a F10 BMW 550i M-Sport w/Dinan AND a 2014 yellow/black stripes loaded Viper GTS. I prefer the ZL1 A10 to both, except for the cargo hauling capacity of the BMW. Good luck with your search!

05-07-2019, 09:58 PM	#27
1hprush 2018 ZL1 1LE Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 1,010	From reading some of your post and seeing other cars you have owned, you need to stay American Muscle. Yes, the GTR is a badass car, and although it sounds great, it still lacks the muscle car feel. I would suggest looking at and test driving a Gen 4/5 Viper. It is a raw American muscle car, it has classic muscle car lines besides looking unique too. The V10 packs plenty of power, pull and torque and demands a drivers respect. It took me several months of owning one before getting comfortable with the bones and capability of the car. However, sorry to see you leave so soon...

05-07-2019, 10:07 PM	#28
JD2018_ZL1 Drives: 2018 ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Dallas Posts: 122	I don’t know if it has to be modern but I also have a 14 GT500. I’d say that right now is a good time to get one while they are not expensive and can be found with low miles. I haven’t done anything to mine because I don’t mod. You can get power very easy from them they are really great cars.