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jethrobandit · 11-24-2020, 04:42 PM

Does anyone know of a builder/tuner that does consulting? For instance, helps you create a full build sheet based on your goals and setup? Then someone who can do remote tuning? I'm reaching the end of my experience, research, and knowledge to know how this piece affects this, change this to go with that, etc. But, I still want to do most of the build myself. The big pieces are typically easy to figure out, its all the supporting elements that take experience to know.

For example: 2013 LS3 to hit 800+ to get into 10s
What supercharger can I pair with a BTR Stage 3 NA cam? Then what fuel pump? Then do I need to switch to E85? Do I need to... on and on and on. I can research my way through most of it, but having someone experienced guide through best combos takes a lot of the guess work out of it.

I'm willing to pay for a good consultation, but so far, almost a dozen builders/garages locally and in the US have said "No, we don't want your money." I've asked my local Camaro club... crickets. Just don't know where else to turn to get some guidance. Not being cheap, I just want to build what I drive.

Tajefe Couple · 11-24-2020, 06:22 PM

Might try the people at GPI https://gwatneyperformance.com/, very knowledgeable and always willing to help. Andrew is a consultant and member on here could always shoot him a pm @ acammer. GL with your build and maybe think about starting a build thread on here, always cool to see what others do.

TheFlyingBananaSS · 11-24-2020, 07:52 PM

Definitely hit up Andrew at gpi. Dude is a encyclopedia of knowledge.

I can tell you this though. I have gpi SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger on 9psi boost, stock ZL1 fuel pump on 93, FIC 1000 injectors, and a 32-3400 triple disc stall. On a conservative tune I ran 11.40. I'm only 4 tenths from 10's. Which means a skilled driver may be able to cut down to 11.20 or 11.30 and a couple small changes and I'll be able to run it to the 10's which is the build goal. Be prepared, it gets costly real fast.

Oh one more thing, that's on 20 inch wheels too.
I didn't know much about the L99 engine when I started. But I have rebuilt engines in the past. I used the guys here and the information they gave, the vendors, and countless hours of research on every part. You don't need a consultant. You can do it yourself with patience and footwork. Question everything so you learn why it's the best choice for so and so. Read the reviews, look at the fast list and see what other guys are running. In the end, keeping the VVT turned to be the right way to go for the type of build I was putting together.

1JEWLDSSRS · 11-25-2020, 08:52 AM

As mentioned above,, GPI for sure!! These guys really know what they are doing, especially when it comes to the L99 engines and the VVT. Just take into account they are very popular and are always very busy!! If I would have had the time and money, I would have shipped my Camaro to them for my build. Good luck and have fun!! Oh, and yes, it will get expensive, especially for a VVT build.

CAMARO_HEAVEN · 11-25-2020, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jethrobandit

Does anyone know of a builder/tuner that does consulting? For instance, helps you create a full build sheet based on your goals and setup? Then someone who can do remote tuning? I'm reaching the end of my experience, research, and knowledge to know how this piece affects this, change this to go with that, etc. But, I still want to do most of the build myself. The big pieces are typically easy to figure out, its all the supporting elements that take experience to know.

For example: 2013 LS3 to hit 800+ to get into 10s
What supercharger can I pair with a BTR Stage 3 NA cam? Then what fuel pump? Then do I need to switch to E85? Do I need to... on and on and on. I can research my way through most of it, but having someone experienced guide through best combos takes a lot of the guess work out of it.

I'm willing to pay for a good consultation, but so far, almost a dozen builders/garages locally and in the US have said "No, we don't want your money." I've asked my local Camaro club... crickets. Just don't know where else to turn to get some guidance. Not being cheap, I just want to build what I drive.

Sent you a PM

John

jethrobandit · 11-25-2020, 01:16 PM

Thanks for the suggestions so far. I'll check in with GPI and John, I'll definitely talk to Brent since he's in TN.

I'm already well into the $$ doing the foundational suspension and driveline upgrades, so I know what lies ahead. Better spent there than on a new car payment is my thought! I've done a TON of research and have come a long way over the 7 years I've had this. I've just hit a lot of roadblocks and not much info as I get more in depth. Like, finding info on supporting pieces. Say, finally picking a supercharger to go with this cam, getting info on which fuel pump... then which size injectors... fuel rails... etc. is just where information doesn't exist online for this particular application and is just in people's heads.

InFiD3ViL · 11-25-2020, 01:43 PM

Another vote for GPI. Not only because I'm a customer, but because I know they will spend the time to talk you through your build from beginning to end.

Andrew Cammer is a GPI sales rep and also an active member here. Very cool guy that REALLY knows his stuff.

His Camaro5 member ID is : acammer

1JEWLDSSRS · 11-25-2020, 03:10 PM

Yea, I can vouch for Cammer, he helped me with some mods I did to mine, and they were spot on!! Thanks cammer..

joshnmn · 11-25-2020, 03:24 PM

just throwing options out- head east to NC

RPMMotorsportsnc,com ask for Jeff or Ryan. Jeff built the Cowmaro and is both friendly and knowledgeable. Ryan (the R in "RPM") knows everything about Camaros.

11-24-2020, 04:42 PM	#1
jethrobandit Drives: 2013 Black 2SS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 77	Build Consulting and Remote Tuning Does anyone know of a builder/tuner that does consulting? For instance, helps you create a full build sheet based on your goals and setup? Then someone who can do remote tuning? I'm reaching the end of my experience, research, and knowledge to know how this piece affects this, change this to go with that, etc. But, I still want to do most of the build myself. The big pieces are typically easy to figure out, its all the supporting elements that take experience to know. For example: 2013 LS3 to hit 800+ to get into 10s What supercharger can I pair with a BTR Stage 3 NA cam? Then what fuel pump? Then do I need to switch to E85? Do I need to... on and on and on. I can research my way through most of it, but having someone experienced guide through best combos takes a lot of the guess work out of it. I'm willing to pay for a good consultation, but so far, almost a dozen builders/garages locally and in the US have said "No, we don't want your money." I've asked my local Camaro club... crickets. Just don't know where else to turn to get some guidance. Not being cheap, I just want to build what I drive. __________________ 2013 2SS ::: MiSSy BTR Stage 3 :: GM 3.91 :: Eaton TrueTrac :: SW LT Headers :: Elite Catch Can :: CAI :: ADM Cold Scoop :: VMAX ported TB :: Forza 3Way :: BMR Lowering Springs/Toe Rods/Lower CA/Trailing Arms/Subframe Bushings

11-24-2020, 06:22 PM	#2
Tajefe Couple Drives: Never just fly under the radar Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,531 View My Garage	Might try the people at GPI https://gwatneyperformance.com/, very knowledgeable and always willing to help. Andrew is a consultant and member on here could always shoot him a pm @ acammer. GL with your build and maybe think about starting a build thread on here, always cool to see what others do. __________________ 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 Old Skool

11-24-2020, 07:52 PM	#3
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,260	Definitely hit up Andrew at gpi. Dude is a encyclopedia of knowledge. I can tell you this though. I have gpi SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger on 9psi boost, stock ZL1 fuel pump on 93, FIC 1000 injectors, and a 32-3400 triple disc stall. On a conservative tune I ran 11.40. I'm only 4 tenths from 10's. Which means a skilled driver may be able to cut down to 11.20 or 11.30 and a couple small changes and I'll be able to run it to the 10's which is the build goal. Be prepared, it gets costly real fast. Oh one more thing, that's on 20 inch wheels too. I didn't know much about the L99 engine when I started. But I have rebuilt engines in the past. I used the guys here and the information they gave, the vendors, and countless hours of research on every part. You don't need a consultant. You can do it yourself with patience and footwork. Question everything so you learn why it's the best choice for so and so. Read the reviews, look at the fast list and see what other guys are running. In the end, keeping the VVT turned to be the right way to go for the type of build I was putting together. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85. Last edited by TheFlyingBananaSS; 11-24-2020 at 08:08 PM.

11-25-2020, 08:52 AM	#4
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,485	As mentioned above,, GPI for sure!! These guys really know what they are doing, especially when it comes to the L99 engines and the VVT. Just take into account they are very popular and are always very busy!! If I would have had the time and money, I would have shipped my Camaro to them for my build. Good luck and have fun!! Oh, and yes, it will get expensive, especially for a VVT build. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

11-25-2020, 01:16 PM	#6
jethrobandit Drives: 2013 Black 2SS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 77	Thanks for the suggestions so far. I'll check in with GPI and John, I'll definitely talk to Brent since he's in TN. I'm already well into the $$ doing the foundational suspension and driveline upgrades, so I know what lies ahead. Better spent there than on a new car payment is my thought! I've done a TON of research and have come a long way over the 7 years I've had this. I've just hit a lot of roadblocks and not much info as I get more in depth. Like, finding info on supporting pieces. Say, finally picking a supercharger to go with this cam, getting info on which fuel pump... then which size injectors... fuel rails... etc. is just where information doesn't exist online for this particular application and is just in people's heads. __________________ 2013 2SS ::: MiSSy BTR Stage 3 :: GM 3.91 :: Eaton TrueTrac :: SW LT Headers :: Elite Catch Can :: CAI :: ADM Cold Scoop :: VMAX ported TB :: Forza 3Way :: BMR Lowering Springs/Toe Rods/Lower CA/Trailing Arms/Subframe Bushings

11-25-2020, 01:43 PM	#7
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,578	Another vote for GPI. Not only because I'm a customer, but because I know they will spend the time to talk you through your build from beginning to end. Andrew Cammer is a GPI sales rep and also an active member here. Very cool guy that REALLY knows his stuff. His Camaro5 member ID is : acammer __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI

11-25-2020, 03:10 PM	#8
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,485	Yea, I can vouch for Cammer, he helped me with some mods I did to mine, and they were spot on!! Thanks cammer.. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

11-25-2020, 03:24 PM	#9
joshnmn 2&THEHIT Drives: 5th Gen Camaro; 5th Gen Ram 3500 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Garner, NC Posts: 1,013 View My Garage	just throwing options out- head east to NC RPMMotorsportsnc,com ask for Jeff or Ryan. Jeff built the Cowmaro and is both friendly and knowledgeable. Ryan (the R in "RPM") knows everything about Camaros.