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Old 10-02-2022, 08:17 PM   #71
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There is only one way to solve this, let's all get together and rent a trackday and winner takes everything.
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Old 10-02-2022, 08:18 PM   #72
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ok now show the same person driving both cars!
LOL. They'll still find an excuse.
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Old 10-02-2022, 08:20 PM   #73
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There is only one way to solve this, let's all get together and rent a trackday and winner takes everything.
Come to Thunderbolt and I'm F'in everybody up.

I'm all about that SMOKE!

Here we are fighting amongst ourselves when we should be taking the fight to that wack assed 2024 Mustang.
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Old 10-02-2022, 08:44 PM   #74
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ok now show the same person driving both cars!
Give me you ZLE for a few laps, and I might break a few PBs. Oh! And let's all drive a MANUAL, like real men. Anyone can pull a lever

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Old 10-02-2022, 08:50 PM   #75
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There is only one way to solve this, let's all get together and rent a trackday and winner takes everything.
I like that. But we would all need to meet somewhere NONE of us have driven before to be fair.
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Old 10-02-2022, 09:00 PM   #76
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I like that. But we would all need to meet somewhere NONE of us have driven before to be fair.
Las Vegas F1 circuit
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Old 10-02-2022, 09:01 PM   #77
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And not to hamper anyone's spirits too much, but if you think the ZLE is KILLING it at the ring, here is a Viper lap that is 15s faster. Because perspective.

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Old 10-02-2022, 09:38 PM   #78
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And not to hamper anyone's spirits too much, but if you think the ZLE is KILLING it at the ring, here is a Viper lap that is 15s faster. Because perspective.

I love that documentary.

I also love how they bin the car at the end. Haha
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Old 10-02-2022, 09:40 PM   #79
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Las Vegas F1 circuit
We need a small track so the SS guys can’t complain about an unfair advantage when they get dat tail kracked. Hahaha


Some of the SS guys are worse than Flat Earthers. Hahaha
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Old 10-02-2022, 10:26 PM   #80
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We need a small track so the SS guys can’t complain about an unfair advantage when they get dat tail kracked. Hahaha


Some of the SS guys are worse than Flat Earthers. Hahaha
Hey, I have an SS, screw you buddy!
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Old 10-02-2022, 10:43 PM   #81
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Hey, I have an SS, screw you buddy!
hahahahahaha I'm kidding!
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Old 10-03-2022, 08:20 AM   #82
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Part of the issue when comparing cars/laptimes is the driver's subjective experience being used as the main point of reference. While there is merit in that as far what you are feeling, how the car reacts, etc, I like to choose an objective point of reference for how I am doing - as far as how close to the sharp end of the spectrum for that type of car I'm at. I look at what the best are running in that same type of car.

Ex - at The Ridge my best lap time in my car without the chicane is a 1:44.9. The Trans Am West series pole time was a 1:40.01. So, that is basically 5 seconds of pole time of a TA car. At the Global Time attack that was just held, the street class winner was a 1:44.79. So, why does this matter? Because unless you are operating near the sharp end, a subjective opinion doesn't really matter, IMO.

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Old 10-03-2022, 08:22 AM   #83
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Part of the issue when comparing cars/laptimes is the driver's subjective experience being used as the main point of reference. While there is merit in that as far what you are feeling, how the car reacts, etc, I like to choose an objective point of reference for how I am doing - as far as how close to the sharp end of the spectrum for that type of car I'm at. I look at what the best are running in that same type of car.

Ex - at The Ridge my best lap time in my car without the chicane is a 1:44.9. The Trans Am West series pole time was a 1:40.01. So, that is basically 5 seconds of pole time of a TA car. At the Global Time attack that was just held, the street class winner was a 1:44.79. So, why does this matter? Because unless you are operating near the sharp end, a subjective opinion doesn't really matter, IMO.

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Agreed. So in other words, the OP should just keep his ZLE and drive the snot out of it.
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Old 10-03-2022, 08:41 AM   #84
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Agreed. So in other words, the OP should just keep his ZLE and drive the snot out of it.
HA! Maybe....

How comfortable you are trying to get that lap time plays a large roll. With the handful of ZLEs I have driven, they are a bit more edgy at the limit than my car. Think of it this way, IME, driving a stock ZLE to say 90% of capability is pretty easy and will net a very good lap time. Looking for that last 10% is another issue and it gets much harder to get that last drop in time. The SS at the last 10% is much much easier, again, IME.

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