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Nate GM · 10-10-2012, 07:25 PM

I have a 2012 Camaro RS with a V6 and was wondering about how much horsepower I would have with an STS Turbocharger? I currently have a stock 323 horsepower engine with flowmaster exhaust. Also, what else could I do to it as well (CAI, Suspension etc.)? It said on their website to expect bolt on gains up to 150 hp but that I could also be capable of 620 hp. The 620 horsepower comment is what threw me off so any info on this would really help. Thanks so much!

Nate GM · 10-10-2012, 07:27 PM

Also, no comments about trading it in for a V8 or anything like that. Thanks

Taintedveins · 10-10-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate Wagner

I have a 2012 Camaro RS with a V6 and was wondering about how much horsepower I would have with an STS Turbocharger? I currently have a stock 323 horsepower engine with flowmaster exhaust. Also, what else could I do to it as well (CAI, Suspension etc.)? It said on their website to expect bolt on gains up to 150 hp but that I could also be capable of 620 hp. The 620 horsepower comment is what threw me off so any info on this would really help. Thanks so much!

No way will you get 150 hp out of bolt ons... Ricer math doesn't work. If you really want to know the results look up member GretchensGotGrowl (correct if name is wrong) That v6 is currently the most powerful turbo v6 camaro.

slick rick · 10-10-2012, 07:28 PM

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115679

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Member (manufacturer)--HP/TQ--1/8--1/4
Camaro-21 (STS)--415HP/408TQ at 10psi
cjt037 (STS)--436HP/405TQ at 8psi

TurboSS_ · 10-10-2012, 09:43 PM

CAPABLE of 620hp and just buying a turbo kit don't mean much. you'd have to be running 23-25 psi on a massive turbo to get 620hp out of that v6. meaning you'd want forged internals, crank, maybe new valve springs. you'd need all supporting mods and i can garuntee that on this platform, it would not be easy to obtain that number.

on the other hand, anything is possible if you have the money. so, hell, go for it.

11 Camaro IBM · 10-10-2012, 11:50 PM

150 hp is not ricer math with a turbo kit rx's kit gets you around 400 at the wheels that's much over 400 at the crank so it's not impossible for a base line kit to get you that much but you will need supporting mods and a tune. I would look into either IPF or RX for kits I haven't heard very much from sts and 600 is a little far fetched

SpkCamaro12 · 10-11-2012, 05:16 AM

Ya 600+ plus HP is pushing it, Ive talked to Tracy a little bit and their kit gets between like 4-470, as Tracy said that is SS Killer already, but getting 600+ HP out of the V6 isn't going to happen, if you want 600+ HP get a SS TT/SC or anything else higher.

fielderLS3 · 10-11-2012, 06:05 AM

Gain from boost varies depending on whether or not you can pump enough fuel in, whether you have enough octane to avoid detonation, the efficiency of the system, intercooler or not, etc....

A 150 hp gain would be pretty significant on its own, but probably doable. Getting to 620hp without blowing stuff all to hell would require re-engineering and rebuilding most of the car (fuel system, cooling system, engine, transmission, clutch, rear end, etc...).

sycraft · 10-11-2012, 06:21 AM

The 2012 has a better fuel setup than the 10-11. delivers more fuel when needed. I am north of 400 hp on my 2012. The IPF kit is great and makes great hp out of the box.

GretchenGotGrowl · 10-11-2012, 07:07 AM

Did they 620 HP at the wheels or the crank? I have an auto and we had it up to about 500 RWHP @ 9 psi before backing it down to 450 RWHP at 8 psi. Given about 20% drivetrain loss 500 RWHP would be about 620 HP at the crank. Now, I have a few more goodies besides turbos and much better turbos than what come with the STS kit. So, yeah you could probably make 620 HP at the crank, but you won't do it with their kit alone.

Do you really want that much power? Adding 150 HP at the crank is almost 50% more than you have now.

KMPrenger · 10-11-2012, 11:15 AM

Adding 150 HP to crank is about about the norm (a little higher than the norm) for the SC kits. 370+ rwhp on an auto, and 400+ on a manual car is where you'd be at when adding 150 to crank HP and we have seen those numbers.

Over 600 even at crank is a bit stretched at this point. It appears that Gretchen got near to that, but I feel like once you go that far the engine internals need to reworked/forged (which I think he has done or is working towards doing) + your going to need lots of supporting mods.

Very few of these cars has put it down where it counts...on the strip. There is some disconnect there that we need to figure out. Suspension/tires/launch/driver/ECM cutting power.......it hasn't all added up just yet.

GretchenGotGrowl · 10-11-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Adding 150 HP to crank is about about the norm (a little higher than the norm) for the SC kits. 370+ rwhp on an auto, and 400+ on a manual car is where you'd be at when adding 150 to crank HP and we have seen those numbers.

Exactly, and the engine should handle that easily. The crank is sinster forged as are the rods. However, if you have a M6 you may have some tranny issues. If you have an A6 then the differential my give you some problems. Most importantly, going much beyond this and you should be more worried about things that let you put that power to the ground. As the saying goes, if you're spinning you aren't winning.

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Over 600 even at crank is a bit stretched at this point. It appears that Gretchen got near to that, but I feel like once you go that far the engine internals need to reworked/forged (which I think he has done or is working towards doing) + your going to need lots of supporting mods.

Just be patient for a bit longer. Besides, you may have to be a bit nuts to try and double the HP on a stock block. When I break that I think we'll really know what one can take. I just don't see any aftermarket race blocks being built for the LLT or LFX.

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Very few of these cars has put it down where it counts...on the strip. There is some disconnect there that we need to figure out. Suspension/tires/launch/driver/ECM cutting power.......it hasn't all added up just yet.

Damn tune is what's killing me. Think the in-tank fuel pump also can't keep up above about 450 RWHP for very long. Working on that issue now, too.

SteveRS · 10-11-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboSS_

CAPABLE of 620hp and just buying a turbo kit don't mean much. you'd have to be running 23-25 psi on a massive turbo to get 620hp out of that v6. meaning you'd want forged internals, crank, maybe new valve springs. you'd need all supporting mods and i can garuntee that on this platform, it would not be easy to obtain that number.

on the other hand, anything is possible if you have the money. so, hell, go for it.

LOL i miss my LNF SS.... Destroyed the V6 camaros... and V8 R/T challengers lol

GretchenGotGrowl · 10-11-2012, 03:07 PM

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LOL i miss my LNF SS.... Destroyed the V6 camaros... and V8 R/T challengers lol

Yeah, the LNF was an awesome motor. A lot of that technology made it into the LLT and LFX. Now we will see it move up to the V8s. Very cool for all.

10-10-2012, 07:25 PM	#1
Nate GM Rand Paul 2016 Drives: Corvette Stingray Z51 2LT Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: U.S Posts: 592	Turbocharged V6 Horsepower? I have a 2012 Camaro RS with a V6 and was wondering about how much horsepower I would have with an STS Turbocharger? I currently have a stock 323 horsepower engine with flowmaster exhaust. Also, what else could I do to it as well (CAI, Suspension etc.)? It said on their website to expect bolt on gains up to 150 hp but that I could also be capable of 620 hp. The 620 horsepower comment is what threw me off so any info on this would really help. Thanks so much! __________________

10-10-2012, 07:27 PM	#2
Nate GM Rand Paul 2016 Drives: Corvette Stingray Z51 2LT Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: U.S Posts: 592	Also, no comments about trading it in for a V8 or anything like that. Thanks __________________

10-10-2012, 09:43 PM	#5
TurboSS_ SS boiii Drives: '09 Cobalt SS Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Montgomery County, MD Posts: 118	CAPABLE of 620hp and just buying a turbo kit don't mean much. you'd have to be running 23-25 psi on a massive turbo to get 620hp out of that v6. meaning you'd want forged internals, crank, maybe new valve springs. you'd need all supporting mods and i can garuntee that on this platform, it would not be easy to obtain that number. on the other hand, anything is possible if you have the money. so, hell, go for it. __________________ '09 Cobalt SS Turbo .....HP Tuned @ 21psi ZZP Catless Downpipe, Hahn CAI TurboXS RFL Cat-Back, TurboXS Charge Pipes, TurboXS Intercooler

10-11-2012, 05:16 AM	#7
SpkCamaro12 Drives: 2012 IOM 2LT RS - Traded In Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Port Richey, Florida Posts: 367	Ya 600+ plus HP is pushing it, Ive talked to Tracy a little bit and their kit gets between like 4-470, as Tracy said that is SS Killer already, but getting 600+ HP out of the V6 isn't going to happen, if you want 600+ HP get a SS TT/SC or anything else higher. __________________ TRADED IN - 2012 2LT RS - VMAX Throttle Body - MRT V1 - CAI - Trifecta Tune - Matching Interior Lightning (Footwells and Dome) - Sequential Taillights - Blacked out Front n Back Bowties - 228VX Train Horn Traded for 2011 Corvette

10-11-2012, 06:05 AM	#8
fielderLS3 Drives: 2016 Mazda6, 2011 Mustang 5.0 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Portage, Wisconsin Posts: 4,049	Gain from boost varies depending on whether or not you can pump enough fuel in, whether you have enough octane to avoid detonation, the efficiency of the system, intercooler or not, etc.... A 150 hp gain would be pretty significant on its own, but probably doable. Getting to 620hp without blowing stuff all to hell would require re-engineering and rebuilding most of the car (fuel system, cooling system, engine, transmission, clutch, rear end, etc...). __________________ 2022 1SS 1LE (Arrived 4/29/22) "The car is the closest thing we will ever create to something that is alive." . 2022 1SS 1LE (Coming Soon)

10-10-2012, 11:50 PM	#6
11 Camaro IBM Drives: Camaro IBM Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tx Posts: 1,007 View My Garage	150 hp is not ricer math with a turbo kit rx's kit gets you around 400 at the wheels that's much over 400 at the crank so it's not impossible for a base line kit to get you that much but you will need supporting mods and a tune. I would look into either IPF or RX for kits I haven't heard very much from sts and 600 is a little far fetched

10-11-2012, 06:21 AM	#9
sycraft COTW 5/06/2013 Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport-Ho-Vette Join Date: May 2012 Location: Milford, Michigan Posts: 3,201 View My Garage	The 2012 has a better fuel setup than the 10-11. delivers more fuel when needed. I am north of 400 hp on my 2012. The IPF kit is great and makes great hp out of the box. __________________ 2017 Grand Sport, Borla X Pipe.....Enough Said

10-11-2012, 07:07 AM	#10
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	Did they 620 HP at the wheels or the crank? I have an auto and we had it up to about 500 RWHP @ 9 psi before backing it down to 450 RWHP at 8 psi. Given about 20% drivetrain loss 500 RWHP would be about 620 HP at the crank. Now, I have a few more goodies besides turbos and much better turbos than what come with the STS kit. So, yeah you could probably make 620 HP at the crank, but you won't do it with their kit alone. Do you really want that much power? Adding 150 HP at the crank is almost 50% more than you have now. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

10-11-2012, 11:15 AM	#11
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	Adding 150 HP to crank is about about the norm (a little higher than the norm) for the SC kits. 370+ rwhp on an auto, and 400+ on a manual car is where you'd be at when adding 150 to crank HP and we have seen those numbers. Over 600 even at crank is a bit stretched at this point. It appears that Gretchen got near to that, but I feel like once you go that far the engine internals need to reworked/forged (which I think he has done or is working towards doing) + your going to need lots of supporting mods. Very few of these cars has put it down where it counts...on the strip. There is some disconnect there that we need to figure out. Suspension/tires/launch/driver/ECM cutting power.......it hasn't all added up just yet. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)