GM Q3 2023 SALES....

90503 · 10-06-2023, 07:49 AM

(Sorry, FEN, I couldn't wait any longer for you to do it)...Hope all is well with you. Putting up the links is the best I can do...lol

https://pressroom.gm.com/gmbx/us/en/...3-gmsales.html

The PDF for the chart we're used to looking at is at the bottom of the above link.

U.S. Q3 Sales: Trucks, New SUVs Drive Sales and Share Gains
2023 U.S. Third Quarter Sales
2023-10-03

View Assets

DETROIT — General Motors Co. (NYSE: GM) and its dealers delivered 674,336 vehicles in the U.S. in the third quarter of 2023, up 21% year-over-year.

Strong customer demand for GM’s portfolio of trucks and SUVs drove sales growth across all its brands in the third quarter. GM’s total sales are up 19% for the calendar year.

View the full release below.

90503 · 10-06-2023, 07:58 AM

It still irks me how Cadillac CT4 and CT5 are horrible selling sacred cows that stay in production over Camaro. Camaro sales are more than those two combined yet its Camaro we are always told is the poor seller that needs to get the axe.

I don't buy the "it's poor sales" rationale. It doesn't apply looking at the numbers of Camaro (and Bolt for that matter) compared to others.

Imagine what Camaro numbers would have been if all the orders were actually built to meet demand. I haven't heard of any unhappy CT4 or CT5 customers unable to get the cars they want built.

Oh well....We can use the worsening strike now to speculate on what the future holds...

Aqua Blue RS/SS · 10-06-2023, 08:13 AM

Wait, so you’re telling me Mary’s EV pipe dream isn’t driving the new growth? It’s the same old bread and butter of trucks and large suvs that GM has been making a killing at for a long long time. Huh whoda thought that could be the case. GM and the auto industry as a whole has become such a f#cking joke.

lbls1 · 10-10-2023, 09:09 AM

Its my opinion that management needs a new direction aimed at car enthusiasts and its products. It is a no brainer that the full sized trucks and SUVs are floating the company, so it would be suicide to change or eliminate them.

Not that EVs or the development of the technology is bad. GM and other companies need to further the development of more than one alternative energy source. However, to act as if one is placing all of their eggs in the "EV" basket is a bit foolhearty. EVs have a great advantage in their efficiency and somewhat of a relief from consuming fossil fuels (its production, however, bastardizes this notion). Overall ease of use and reliability is still behind the modern ICE cars and trucks.

Capricio · 10-10-2023, 10:55 AM

I think the whole game now is smaller production of high margin vehicles.

https://jalopnik.com/more-than-80-pe...ars-1850906956

V8 Firebird · 10-10-2023, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 90503

It still irks me how Cadillac CT4 and CT5 are horrible selling sacred cows that stay in production over Camaro.

If you look Caddy sales in China, CT4 and CT5 are great in there. GM sold both Caddy sedan most in there.

90503 · 10-10-2023, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8 Firebird

If you look Caddy sales in China, CT4 and CT5 are great in there. GM sold both Caddy sedan most in there.

That's great news. I didn't know GM was exporting large numbers of CT4 and CT5s from Michigan to China.

genxer · 10-10-2023, 11:50 PM

Most of the Cadillacs sold in China are made there. It supposedly dilutes development costs for the ATS/CTS/CT4&5, but not the same platform Camaro. That's corporate accounting for ya. Agreed with the irking.

PYROLYSIS · 10-12-2023, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbls1

Its my opinion that management needs a new direction aimed at car enthusiasts and its products. It is a no brainer that the full sized trucks and SUVs are floating the company, so it would be suicide to change or eliminate them.

Not that EVs or the development of the technology is bad. GM and other companies need to further the development of more than one alternative energy source. However, to act as if one is placing all of their eggs in the "EV" basket is a bit foolhearty. EVs have a great advantage in their efficiency and somewhat of a relief from consuming fossil fuels (its production, however, bastardizes this notion). Overall ease of use and reliability is still behind the modern ICE cars and trucks.

Suicide is the government’s goal and GMs leadership has proven to be willing to do whatever they say unfortunately.

10-06-2023, 07:49 AM	#1
90503 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Torrance Posts: 14,420	GM Q3 2023 SALES.... (Sorry, FEN, I couldn't wait any longer for you to do it)...Hope all is well with you. Putting up the links is the best I can do...lol https://pressroom.gm.com/gmbx/us/en/...3-gmsales.html The PDF for the chart we're used to looking at is at the bottom of the above link. U.S. Q3 Sales: Trucks, New SUVs Drive Sales and Share Gains 2023 U.S. Third Quarter Sales 2023-10-03 View Assets DETROIT — General Motors Co. (NYSE: GM) and its dealers delivered 674,336 vehicles in the U.S. in the third quarter of 2023, up 21% year-over-year. Strong customer demand for GM’s portfolio of trucks and SUVs drove sales growth across all its brands in the third quarter. GM’s total sales are up 19% for the calendar year. View the full release below.

10-06-2023, 08:13 AM	#3
Aqua Blue RS/SS Drives: ABM #93 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Lotaburger Posts: 2,692	Wait, so you’re telling me Mary’s EV pipe dream isn’t driving the new growth? It’s the same old bread and butter of trucks and large suvs that GM has been making a killing at for a long long time. Huh whoda thought that could be the case. GM and the auto industry as a whole has become such a f#cking joke. __________________ ABM #2399 2SS/RS:SOLD ABM #93 2SS/RS Black Rally stripes, Titanium Interior 4,000 miles: GM GFX side skirts and diffuser waiting on paint, GM dovetail, GM heritage, RPI ZL1 style splitter. ‘87 IROC-Z Iroc blue. all original unmolested with 50K miles.

10-10-2023, 09:09 AM	#4
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,021	Its my opinion that management needs a new direction aimed at car enthusiasts and its products. It is a no brainer that the full sized trucks and SUVs are floating the company, so it would be suicide to change or eliminate them. Not that EVs or the development of the technology is bad. GM and other companies need to further the development of more than one alternative energy source. However, to act as if one is placing all of their eggs in the "EV" basket is a bit foolhearty. EVs have a great advantage in their efficiency and somewhat of a relief from consuming fossil fuels (its production, however, bastardizes this notion). Overall ease of use and reliability is still behind the modern ICE cars and trucks. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

10-06-2023, 07:58 AM	#2
90503 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Torrance Posts: 14,420	It still irks me how Cadillac CT4 and CT5 are horrible selling sacred cows that stay in production over Camaro. Camaro sales are more than those two combined yet its Camaro we are always told is the poor seller that needs to get the axe. I don't buy the "it's poor sales" rationale. It doesn't apply looking at the numbers of Camaro (and Bolt for that matter) compared to others. Imagine what Camaro numbers would have been if all the orders were actually built to meet demand. I haven't heard of any unhappy CT4 or CT5 customers unable to get the cars they want built. Oh well....We can use the worsening strike now to speculate on what the future holds...

10-10-2023, 10:55 AM	#5
Capricio Drives: 2000 WS6 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: AZ Posts: 434	I think the whole game now is smaller production of high margin vehicles. https://jalopnik.com/more-than-80-pe...ars-1850906956

10-10-2023, 11:50 PM	#8
genxer Drives: multiple cars Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 473	Most of the Cadillacs sold in China are made there. It supposedly dilutes development costs for the ATS/CTS/CT4&5, but not the same platform Camaro. That's corporate accounting for ya. Agreed with the irking.