GM Electric Vehicle Survey

[Warrior102]

I just received an email with a survey asking if I would consider buying an electric vehicle. I would not for multiple reasons, fill it out it takes maybe five minutes.

[SSUNDVL]

Ill just leave this here... https://www.motor1.com/news/526587/r...r-mile-record/

Rimac Nevera does 8.58 qtr mile with street tires, obviously this is crazy money but eventually some of the tech trickles down, hard to not appreciate it if you like going fast.

[Warrior102]

Originally Posted by SSUNDVL

Ill just leave this here... https://www.motor1.com/news/526587/r...r-mile-record/

Rimac Nevera does 8.58 qtr mile with street tires, obviously this is crazy money but eventually some of the tech trickles down, hard to not appreciate it if you like going fast.

I appreciate that electric vehicles are pretty amazing performance wise but being married to a vehicle that has a 300 mile range without running AC or heat and can take 2 - 12 hours to charge is not going to fly with me. Also I work as an electrician and the average home on Cape Cod where I live has a 100amp service and will need to be upgraded to 200amp minimum for a fast charger, also the infrastructure is going to need to be upgraded to service this demand, this is going to take decades. ICE engines aren't going anywhere soon unless there is a breakthrough in hydrogen or battery tech, Li-ion batteries are toxic, expensive and dangerous.

[SSUNDVL]

Overall I agree they do not suite everyones needs and I am sure diesel/gas will be around longer than expected, Toyota is heavily lobbying against electric as they don't think it is as good for the environment as it is made out to be.

The whole electric grid/infrastructure thing is interesting and you are right we are not really there yet to support full demand but I doubt every person would need a full charge every day/night. Also I don't think electric cars will be a majority for many years, people live in multi unit dwellings without places to charge, people are buying ICE vehicles considerably more then electric right now so used/resale market will be around for a long time.

Personally I plan to keep ICE vehicles as I enjoy them and like to tinker but the innovation is welcomed and it will only get better. I can't wait to be driving a 1200-1500 whp, 2000 ft lb electric car that doesn't get heat soaked or need same level of maintenance an ICE needs at that level (maybe never but we will see).

Hopefully we will see even further innovation with alternative fuels, hydrogen and more in our lifetime, could be some crazy stuff.

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by Warrior102

I appreciate that electric vehicles are pretty amazing performance wise but being married to a vehicle that has a 300 mile range without running AC or heat and can take 2 - 12 hours to charge is not going to fly with me. Also I work as an electrician and the average home on Cape Cod where I live has a 100amp service and will need to be upgraded to 200amp minimum for a fast charger, also the infrastructure is going to need to be upgraded to service this demand, this is going to take decades. ICE engines aren't going anywhere soon unless there is a breakthrough in hydrogen or battery tech, Li-ion batteries are toxic, expensive and dangerous.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I have not interested in EV's.

[raptor5244]

I own both.

Pros
- Instant torque, effortless power
- No transmission, no lag on downshift, upshift, always in the peak powerband
- Efficient - costs about $5 in electricity for a full 300 miles charge at home
- Regen braking saves on brake pads and some pedal fatigue in stop and go traffic
- Improved traction control since electrically integrated to drive unit
- Improved tech, UI, OTA software updates
- No oil changes, fluid changes. Just rotate tires, wiper fluid and replace friction brake fluid when needed.

Cons
- No exhaust note or vibration if you enjoy it
- No drama, assuming you enjoy some tire spin, roaring exhaust, winding out gears, etc.
- No manual trans, lacks driving engagement
- Dual motor setups are pretty heavy, 4000lbs
- Current EVs lack LSD, they use open diffs with electronic control
- Tesla traction and stability (nannies) spoil a lot of the fun of all that torque
- Limited modding ability, lots of software controls
- No 3rd party parts and service, yet
- Range - in an EV you really charge to 90% and try not to go below 15-20% so your usable range is often less than advertised
- Charge times - charging at home is convenient, road trips in an EV can create some anxiety
- Need Superchargers at tracks or forget it

[95 imp]

The only electric motor I need in my car is the starter to fire up my V8.

[Devstrike]

Originally Posted by 95 imp

The only electric motor I need in my car is the starter to fire up my V8.

This. Right now especially for me personally there is too many cons in owning an electric vehicle over a ICE one right now.

[SSUNDVL]

I guess people here like going slow?

[willzilla]

I have an 84 El Camino SS project car and would happily drop in the Chevy eCrate if they offered a reasonable priced setup

If they continued into a 7th gen Camaro and offered a couple gas powered trims and a few EV trims I would consider an EV trim for a non daily driver if it had amazing performance and decent range.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by SSUNDVL

I guess people here like going slow?

Bullet trains are even faster at 300+ mph if someone really wants to experience high speeds without buying a Bugatti or Koenigsegg plus track time for $$$$.

Also, it's only a matter of time and a few whiplash or city spinout mayhem lawsuits before instant electric torque gets reined in (cue "excessive acceleration"), then remotely enforcing speed limits is an easy step "forward".

(Before someone calls me a luddite, I'm a sofware engineer, the problem is not technology but the way it's increasingly being used.)

[redcoats1976]

Originally Posted by SSUNDVL

I guess people here like going slow?

not so much against an electric camaro coupe,but im 63 years oldand own a 5th gen with less than 70k miles on it.would it be practical for me to make the switch?

[SSUNDVL]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Bullet trains are even faster at 300+ mph if someone really wants to experience high speeds without buying a Bugatti or Koenigsegg plus track time for $$$$.

Also, it's only a matter of time and a few whiplash or city spinout mayhem lawsuits before instant electric torque gets reined in (cue "excessive acceleration"), then remotely enforcing speed limits is an easy step "forward".

(Before someone calls me a luddite, I'm a sofware engineer, the problem is not technology but the way it's increasingly being used.)

all the crazy fast cars are 200k plus the rimac is like 2 million it is not going to be a prevalent issue for a long time as the people dropping 2 mill on a car or even 200k are probably not launching their car as much as a typical Camaro/mustang/hellcat owner. I really don't see whiplash being an issue with a seat/seatbelt but maybe? Once battery technology gets better, there will also likely be tuners or people to manipulate the torque management and make more affordable Ev's crazy fast.

[ItsChristianInHD]

Originally Posted by 95 imp

The only electric motor I need in my car is the starter to fire up my V8.

Wonderful answer.