Educate me on GMC pick ups

Blue 13 · 08-02-2021, 11:42 AM

I recently moved to Pennsylvania from South Carolina. I have a V-6 Camaro that I love (I hope you guys aren’t like the Facebook Camaro guys) but I’m thinking I’ll need a pick up for the winter. Here’s what I’ve found in the $36-46k range:

2016 Sierra 1500 All Terrain with 45k miles
2018 Sierra 1500 Elevation with 30k miles
2018 Sierra 1500 Denali with 48k miles

They have wildly different options so I get that, but the Denali trim level is the only thing I know anything about.

Thank you guys.

-Aaron

snizzle · 08-02-2021, 11:59 AM

Hi, we welcome Camaros of all drivetrains!

Those bread and butter 4/6 cyl Camaros make the whole program possible.

Given the used market right now, this is not going to be a fun/cheap process for you unfortunately.

FarmerFran · 08-02-2021, 12:27 PM

Have to be GMC?

Aaron07 · 08-03-2021, 12:31 AM

The All Terrain lives above the SLT, but just below the Denali in GMCs pecking order. It was replaced by the AT4 in 2019.-- The $2105 All Terrain package contains a mix of hard- and soft-core upgrades: an off-road suspension with Rancho shocks, a locking rear differential, an eight-speed automatic transmission, 18-inch wheels, body-color bumpers, a spray-on bedliner, Bose audio, heated leather seats, and a center console with wireless charging.

2018 Elevation is an appearance package offered on base double cab or SLE double or crew cab. Its not an option, just appearance on the lower trims of the GMC.

As you may know the GMC (and chevy) were completely new for 2019

Blue 13 · 08-03-2021, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron07

The All Terrain lives above the SLT, but just below the Denali in GMCs pecking order. It was replaced by the AT4 in 2019.-- The $2105 All Terrain package contains a mix of hard- and soft-core upgrades: an off-road suspension with Rancho shocks, a locking rear differential, an eight-speed automatic transmission, 18-inch wheels, body-color bumpers, a spray-on bedliner, Bose audio, heated leather seats, and a center console with wireless charging.

2018 Elevation is an appearance package offered on base double cab or SLE double or crew cab. Its not an option, just appearance on the lower trims of the GMC.

As you may know the GMC (and chevy) were completely new for 2019

Thank you! I knew nothing of “Elevation”.

As for other brands, I’d consider a Chevrolet obviously, although I’ve always wanted a GMC. I’d look at a Toyota, but not Nissan. Ford I’m kind of eh about. Lots of co-workers have F-150’s. The one I can’t do, and I try and like them, like really really try is Dodge. Too many bad experiences and stories.

Blue 13 · 08-03-2021, 10:37 PM

Also what years have the AFM I read about with the V-8 Camaro? Did the 5.3L have it as well? I’m thinking I need to stay away from that.

Thanks guys!

Sir Nuke · 08-04-2021, 06:04 AM

Blue 13....considering the price range you are looking at....and those are all used trucks.....would you even consider a Colorado/Canyon.....seeing as you could get a NEW one well outfitted for that price.

ZED SLED · 08-04-2021, 07:42 AM

I went the opposite direction from central NY to NC 2 years ago. Have a 2016 Silverado Z71 I bought new that my wife drives to Walmart once per week. 5.3L. Haven't heard anything about AFM issues for that year but have heard there is the A8 shudder issue but haven't experienced that. But then, it only has 4200 miles on it. No issues whatsoever. On the other hand, the Silverado replaced a 2005 Avalanche we also bought new. Never any driveline issues in the 22k miles we put on it, but undercarriage rust was horrible. Had to replace brake rotors twice because of rust. Fuel pump because of rust. Take a good look underneath at anything you're considering. I traded it because I figured brake lines or suspension parts were next.

Blue 13 · 08-04-2021, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir Nuke

Blue 13....considering the price range you are looking at....and those are all used trucks.....would you even consider a Colorado/Canyon.....seeing as you could get a NEW one well outfitted for that price.

I’m not really into the small trucks. I’m 6’2” and I sat in a Tacoma and it seemed tight. I’ll have to try a Canyon but at least the new ones look better. I honestly think they were very ugly with the goofy wheel arches.

Blue 13 · 08-04-2021, 09:28 PM

Ok Sir Nuke......

I went and played around with the Canyon AT4 build your own and it was ok, but for the hell of it I tried Chevrolet and built a Colorado ZR2 BISON!!!! Damn!!!!!

Blue 13 · 08-04-2021, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ZED SLED

I went the opposite direction from central NY to NC 2 years ago. Have a 2016 Silverado Z71 I bought new that my wife drives to Walmart once per week. 5.3L. Haven't heard anything about AFM issues for that year but have heard there is the A8 shudder issue but haven't experienced that. But then, it only has 4200 miles on it. No issues whatsoever. On the other hand, the Silverado replaced a 2005 Avalanche we also bought new. Never any driveline issues in the 22k miles we put on it, but undercarriage rust was horrible. Had to replace brake rotors twice because of rust. Fuel pump because of rust. Take a good look underneath at anything you're considering. I traded it because I figured brake lines or suspension parts were next.

That’s scary!!!!!

Any pics of your Silverado?

ZED SLED · 08-05-2021, 06:37 AM

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That’s scary!!!!!

Any pics of your Silverado?

Just these from the day I brought the ZL1 home from a dealer in Springfield, MA. Four hour drive. Of course it rained along the way. Silverado was a year and a half old at them time. Probably just turned over 1000 miles.

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snizzle · 08-05-2021, 07:17 AM

Two black vehicles, you must hate yourself too

Malbjey · 08-05-2021, 10:17 AM

To be sure, are you strictly getting a pick up truck just for the winter?

If so, your Camaro should be fine with a set of winter tires, provided your region doesn't have a lot of steep hills.

RWD + winter tires is fine for flat surfaces and going downhill. You'll mainly run into issues if you stop on an incline and need to get moving again. Even then it may not be too bad.

Just wanted to throw that out there in case winter driving is your main motivating factor.

08-02-2021, 11:42 AM	#1
Blue 13 3P171 USAF Combat Arms Drives: 2013 SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Olmsted AFB Posts: 257	Educate me on GMC pick ups I recently moved to Pennsylvania from South Carolina. I have a V-6 Camaro that I love (I hope you guys aren’t like the Facebook Camaro guys) but I’m thinking I’ll need a pick up for the winter. Here’s what I’ve found in the $36-46k range: 2016 Sierra 1500 All Terrain with 45k miles 2018 Sierra 1500 Elevation with 30k miles 2018 Sierra 1500 Denali with 48k miles They have wildly different options so I get that, but the Denali trim level is the only thing I know anything about. Thank you guys. -Aaron

08-02-2021, 11:59 AM	#2
snizzle Recalled user Drives: '12 Camaro SS, '18 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,412	Hi, we welcome Camaros of all drivetrains! Those bread and butter 4/6 cyl Camaros make the whole program possible. Given the used market right now, this is not going to be a fun/cheap process for you unfortunately. __________________ 2012 2SS 45th AE LS3 M6 Borla ATAK Catback Kooks Stepped LT Headers CAI Intake Hexvents VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body RX Catch Can Hurst Short Throw Shifter Pfadt ZL-Spec Stage 3 Suspension Forgestar F14 Tuned by Frost

08-02-2021, 12:27 PM	#3
FarmerFran Drives: 2023 ZL1 Vert M6 "Sharky" Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Earth Posts: 4,031	Have to be GMC? __________________ 2023 Camaro ZL1 Vert TR-6060 Sharkskin "Sharky" Firecracker Red Wrangler Willys, 3.6L eTorque, 850RE 8 speed automatic, 25W Willys package, Technology Group, Convenience Group (aka $600 garage door opener), Cold weather Group, Trailer Tow and HD electric group with AUX switches, 3 piece black freedom top.

08-03-2021, 12:31 AM	#4
Aaron07 Drives: 2017 2SS F1FTY Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 347	The All Terrain lives above the SLT, but just below the Denali in GMCs pecking order. It was replaced by the AT4 in 2019.-- The $2105 All Terrain package contains a mix of hard- and soft-core upgrades: an off-road suspension with Rancho shocks, a locking rear differential, an eight-speed automatic transmission, 18-inch wheels, body-color bumpers, a spray-on bedliner, Bose audio, heated leather seats, and a center console with wireless charging. 2018 Elevation is an appearance package offered on base double cab or SLE double or crew cab. Its not an option, just appearance on the lower trims of the GMC. As you may know the GMC (and chevy) were completely new for 2019 __________________ 2017 2SS F1FTY/HUD/Mag Ride/NPP/Nav/M6/Mishimoto catch can/BTR stage 2 Cam kit/GPI ported LT2 IM and 95mm TB/Roto Fab CAI/Kooks Long Tubes ceramic coated/Borla S Type NPP catback/AFE lowering springs/1LE wheels/OEM smoked tail lights/Diode Dynamics side markers/Uniden R7/3D Maxpider floor mats/Adams graphene ceramic coat

08-04-2021, 06:04 AM	#7
Sir Nuke Master of All Things Drives: '20 Corvette Stingray Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Southeast of Houston, Texas Posts: 22,322 View My Garage	Blue 13....considering the price range you are looking at....and those are all used trucks.....would you even consider a Colorado/Canyon.....seeing as you could get a NEW one well outfitted for that price. __________________

08-03-2021, 10:37 PM	#6
Blue 13 3P171 USAF Combat Arms Drives: 2013 SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Olmsted AFB Posts: 257	Also what years have the AFM I read about with the V-8 Camaro? Did the 5.3L have it as well? I’m thinking I need to stay away from that. Thanks guys!

08-04-2021, 07:42 AM	#8
ZED SLED Drives: 2017 Mosaic Bk ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South of Raleigh, NC Posts: 9,468 View My Garage	I went the opposite direction from central NY to NC 2 years ago. Have a 2016 Silverado Z71 I bought new that my wife drives to Walmart once per week. 5.3L. Haven't heard anything about AFM issues for that year but have heard there is the A8 shudder issue but haven't experienced that. But then, it only has 4200 miles on it. No issues whatsoever. On the other hand, the Silverado replaced a 2005 Avalanche we also bought new. Never any driveline issues in the 22k miles we put on it, but undercarriage rust was horrible. Had to replace brake rotors twice because of rust. Fuel pump because of rust. Take a good look underneath at anything you're considering. I traded it because I figured brake lines or suspension parts were next. __________________

08-04-2021, 09:28 PM	#10
Blue 13 3P171 USAF Combat Arms Drives: 2013 SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Olmsted AFB Posts: 257	Ok Sir Nuke...... I went and played around with the Canyon AT4 build your own and it was ok, but for the hell of it I tried Chevrolet and built a Colorado ZR2 BISON!!!! Damn!!!!!

08-05-2021, 07:17 AM	#13
snizzle Recalled user Drives: '12 Camaro SS, '18 Colorado Z71 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,412	Two black vehicles, you must hate yourself too __________________ 2012 2SS 45th AE LS3 M6 Borla ATAK Catback Kooks Stepped LT Headers CAI Intake Hexvents VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body RX Catch Can Hurst Short Throw Shifter Pfadt ZL-Spec Stage 3 Suspension Forgestar F14 Tuned by Frost

08-05-2021, 10:17 AM	#14
Malbjey Drives: 2022 Kia Stinger GT2 Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 288	To be sure, are you strictly getting a pick up truck just for the winter? If so, your Camaro should be fine with a set of winter tires, provided your region doesn't have a lot of steep hills. RWD + winter tires is fine for flat surfaces and going downhill. You'll mainly run into issues if you stop on an incline and need to get moving again. Even then it may not be too bad. Just wanted to throw that out there in case winter driving is your main motivating factor.