[Nor Cal ZL1]

Originally Posted by suzook

Thats fine. Keep your ugly ass car. I would rather have a slower better looking car. To each his own.

I appreciate many different cars, looks are very subjective, and I can understand not everone likes everything and thats cool with me. Can't wait to get one in the garage. It will be a great stabe mate for my also ugly ZL1

[pgviper]

Originally Posted by suzook

Thats fine. Keep your ugly ass car. I would rather have a slower better looking car. To each his own.

"My car is better looking than yours" (said in a snotty childish voice)... said every person who has seen tail lights...

Has it really come to this? How many times does there have to be a "looks are subjective conversation".

[crangie]

Originally Posted by Nor Cal ZL1

And that is what you will be seeing on the new Alfa just the butt. It is a seroiusly quick car. On the road course you will be lucky to even keep it in view.

At 3400 lbs and 510 hp the car will be fantastic. I plan on sloting one in the garage right next to the ZL1

+1

[Emoto]

Originally Posted by Nor Cal ZL1

The Giulia weighs about a 1000 lbs less and has more power. In stock form it is the fastest 4 door sedan around the ring to date. It is already faster there than the 5th gen Z28. It is not a quarter mile car, but will smoke the new ss on the road course. Of course in the US it is going to command a price, so really its apples to oranges.

The car is crammed with cool featues. Auto blip will shut off automatically if you heal and toe, dynamic suspension, speed variable downforce. However the best part will be the fact that despite all of the tech involved, much of what happens is up to the driver where the marque has always excelled for over a hundred years. Driving experience, car feedback. It wlll be a very driver connected car.

I think it is a cool car. I always liked Alfas when they were in the US when I was growing up.

I have to say, though, that I am not sure how to bet on when (or if) it ever makes it into the US.

[fattyz28]

I really like the hood, sides, and back. But man that front end is terrible. 34 mpg with 500 hp would be nice too

[Nor Cal ZL1]

Originally Posted by Emoto

I think it is a cool car. I always liked Alfas when they were in the US when I was growing up.

I have to say, though, that I am not sure how to bet on when (or if) it ever makes it into the US.

It will be here in the fall. My local dealer is taking deposits in a month or two.

http://alfaromeo.niello.com/lineup-g...adrifoglio.php

[FrostySS]

Everyone has their opinions but I personally think that car is gorgeous.

[LesBaer]

That's the car I was holding out for until they announced the last delay. I'm so glad I kept my old car for the winter (and hauling my son around) and got a real sports instead. It looks like a great car on the surface, but deep down inside I was terrified of owning an Alpha lol.

[Lafourche1]

I am just curious, if anyone is thinking that you might need two cars, if you owned one? It is an Alpha. The Top Gear folks seemed to make a lot of fun of the brand. While the Spyder was a beautiful roadster, one usually saw it sitting on the side of the road with the bonnet up.

[LesBaer]

It snows a lot here and it already doesn't make much sense to haul around a 6 year old in a new sports car in bad conditions, let alone if you've already got a 4 door sedan with 100k miles on it, generous ground clearance, AWD and dedicated snow tires. Square peg, meet round hole...not to mention cheaper to insure the camaro for half of a year vs. insuring a car twice as expensive all year round. Having a lifetime unlimited mileage warranty on the sedan was the icing on the cake. Regardless of my conditions I don't think driving the Camaro during a snow storm is good idea, and it's not really practical as a family car either.

[Emoto]

Originally Posted by Nor Cal ZL1

It will be here in the fall. My local dealer is taking deposits in a month or two.

http://alfaromeo.niello.com/lineup-g...adrifoglio.php

The URL you posted says "winter" now, but I don't mean to pick nits. I think your dealer is being optimistic. I hope I am wrong, because it looks like a really cool car, but I am still skeptical. Sorry.

[Nor Cal ZL1]

Originally Posted by Lafourche1

I am just curious, if anyone is thinking that you might need two cars, if you owned one? It is an Alpha. The Top Gear folks seemed to make a lot of fun of the brand. While the Spyder was a beautiful roadster, one usually saw it sitting on the side of the road with the bonnet up.

I have owned a bunch of Alfa's and still have one. Were talking about 30+ years of ownership. Never had a single breakdown ever. They do need an understanding of maintenance, and quirks of the design. The worst for the US was the Spica mechanical injection years. It was and engineering masterpiece that was misunderstood here in the states. To tune it you needed special tools and had to follow the sequence exactly. I have an Alfa now with a modified Spica pump for racing. Easy set up if the sequence is followed.

More or less an Alfa on the side of the road has been poorly or improperly maintained. If maintained correctly they are near bullet proof.


Oh and it is Alfa, not Alpha.

[Nor Cal ZL1]

Originally Posted by Emoto

The URL you posted says "winter" now, but I don't mean to pick nits. I think your dealer is being optimistic. I hope I am wrong, because it looks like a really cool car, but I am still skeptical. Sorry.

Lol yea no doubt. The 4C was delayed so many times, but it made it.

I havd a friend who raced in Europe in the 60's and he says it was like this.

You need a new engine or major part.

The Italians...... it should be there sometime this month, or maybe next month
The Germans..... it will be there in three days which is Monday.... at 8 am.