[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

Such as??

Off the top of my head:

- horsepower bumps for the top trim via a larger supercharger and tune changes, maybe even flex fuel capability (to keep up the perception that they actually care)
- break up the taillights, by which they could vastly increase trunk opening size
- 1" lower belt line (to address visibility and ingress/egress concerns)
- exterior design changes that appeal to more people (2019+, need I say more)
- interior improvements (better phone storage/charging, more general storage, more accessible ports)
- electronics (adaptive cruise control, larger screen and/or changing the weird angle)
- more configurability at ordering time (just look at Dodge)
- more colors to choose from and maybe, just maybe, better paint quality
- at least some minimal marketing/advertising activity instead of radio silence

I for one don't care much about any of these, I still bought the car and am loving it, but IMO these tweaks could've helped with sales to a surprising extent.

[mRahmani]

Most of those tweaks require large engineering changes that would normal for a full generation change, not year over year tweaks. Especially trunk and beltline changes.

I would not expect anything other than a decal package for the final run. The Camaro is only continuing because it turns a small profit and doesn’t cost anything to keep going, as soon as any engineering changes are needed or the plant capacity is needed for other projects it will be gone.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by mRahmani

Most of those tweaks require large engineering changes that would normal for a full generation change, not year over year tweaks. Especially trunk and beltline changes.

I would not expect anything other than a decal package for the final run. The Camaro is only continuing because it turns a small profit and doesn’t cost anything to keep going, as soon as any engineering changes are needed or the plant capacity is needed for other projects it will be gone.

Yes, but we are talking between 2015 and 2023, not a single model year. There was a midcycle refresh that gm mostly burned on meaningless exterior design changes, although they did add small pieces of good content from other vehicles, too (the rear view camera or the new infotainment software, for example).

[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Off the top of my head:

- horsepower bumps for the top trim via a larger supercharger and tune changes, maybe even flex fuel capability (to keep up the perception that they actually care)
- break up the taillights, by which they could vastly increase trunk opening size
- 1" lower belt line (to address visibility and ingress/egress concerns)
- exterior design changes that appeal to more people (2019+, need I say more)
- interior improvements (better phone storage/charging, more general storage, more accessible ports)
- electronics (adaptive cruise control, larger screen and/or changing the weird angle)
- more configurability at ordering time (just look at Dodge)
- more colors to choose from and maybe, just maybe, better paint quality
- at least some minimal marketing/advertising activity instead of radio silence

I for one don't care much about any of these, I still bought the car and am loving it, but IMO these tweaks could've helped with sales to a surprising extent.

So basically just the 7th gen Camaro?

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

...and in our case of the Camaro simply because it was so good that the underlying technology has not developed much faster, so there is no engineering reason for a major overhaul.

What's baffling and disappointing, however, is that gm have been unwilling to even make several small but very valuable adjustments since they launched the 6th gen.

[rst08tierney]

Only change I would expect to see is yellow coming back and some different decals

[DaveC113]

One thing that could easily be done is bring back the '16-18 exterior for '24.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

So basically just the 7th gen Camaro?

Well if we talk about all these combined, then yes It's all in the hypothetical anyway.

[schoenmaro55]

I believe there's 2 reasons GM is going to keep the brand going. #1 Ford continued on with the V8 Coyote Mustangs and #2 NASCAR. GM is still big into NASCAR and they must have a current production car for sale that competes in NASCAR. They can't use a C8 Vette since it's mid-engine on the streets and they certainly won't use an Equinox lol.

The big question for me is will they make any engine updates to the street cars? The LT1 engine is ANCIENT compared to the Coyote engines. There's nothing wrong with it, they work great.........just an old design. All the tech/performance on the Camaros is fine and totally relevant. We'll see, VERY interesting.

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by schoenmaro55

I believe there's 2 reasons GM is going to keep the brand going. #1 Ford continued on with the V8 Coyote Mustangs and #2 NASCAR. GM is still big into NASCAR and they must have a current production car for sale that competes in NASCAR. They can't use a C8 Vette since it's mid-engine on the streets and they certainly won't use an Equinox lol.

The big question for me is will they make any engine updates to the street cars? The LT1 engine is ANCIENT compared to the Coyote engines. There's nothing wrong with it, they work great.........just an old design. All the tech/performance on the Camaros is fine and totally relevant. We'll see, VERY interesting.

I'm not a NASCAR guy by any means, so honest question here. If GM competes in NASCAR whatever car they use in NASCAR has to be a current production car? Is that some actual rule?

[JTS]

Current production Name plate , Camaro , Impala Malibu, The Toyota's a Camry 4door saden.

[Bumbleboy92]

Wonder how they'll top 2023's feature list of...

- Add new color
- Remove packages

[Devstrike]

Originally Posted by jamala00

I'm not a NASCAR guy by any means, so honest question here. If GM competes in NASCAR whatever car they use in NASCAR has to be a current production car? Is that some actual rule?

From what I have heard over the years is yes however, I never actually did research into it. I have a couple relatives that are Nascar fans that I heard this from.

[BundiMan]

Originally Posted by Devstrike

From what I have heard over the years is yes however, I never actually did research into it. I have a couple relatives that are Nascar fans that I heard this from.

Chevy will be racing the Bolt.