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Arogg · 01-29-2024, 02:59 PM

Yes, another gear question..sorry.

So I'm looking for an "inexpensive" upgrade to give me a little more of a leg up for the track day coming up in April. I got a buddy with a '15 5.0 and last time we were within 10ths of each other and he has since did a few upgrades. I figured gears would be the way. I basically only drive the car once in a while, yes, I drive it aggressively when I do but nothing crazy and never too far. Occasionally I go to Jersey to visit my dad but again, I'm pretty much just cruising. I hit the track MAYBE once a year, but more like once every other year.
I was leaning 4:10s but im probably going 3:91. My installer who is very reputable in the area is DESPERATELY trying to convince me to also do a TruTrac. I know it would be beneficial but funds are tight even though im trying to upgrade. My current mods are in my signature. Only thing different would be that next weekend im swapping exhausts to a full 3" Corsa Xtreme.
So my question... Do i really need this trutrac like hes saying? I really feel like I dont, at least not at this point. Should i just wait until I can afford to do it all? I really dont see me doing too much more to this car anytime soon and even then, it will probably just a be a cam.

Batmanntexas · 01-29-2024, 03:38 PM

Another option would be a converter. A stall converter will give your car a whole new personality, and it may be a necessity depending on your cam selection down the road. In either case, whether you decide to do gears or a converter, you would also benefit from a dedicated drag tire.

Good luck and have fun!

-Scott

Arogg · 01-29-2024, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batmanntexas

Another option would be a converter. A stall converter will give your car a whole new personality, and it may be a necessity depending on your cam selection down the road. In either case, whether you decide to do gears or a converter, you would also benefit from a dedicated drag tire.

Good luck and have fun!

-Scott

My SS is a manual... Drag tire setup would be nice too but the only spare set of wheels I have is my factory 20s and id prefer to do a drag pack which will be way more money

Joe.G · 01-29-2024, 05:11 PM

Honestly while you are in there you really should, The stock unit uses clutches and they do wear out. If you are swapping gears now is the time to do the bearings and the true trac. Buy the parts as money becomes available and install when ready. I went with 3.91 and I am very happy with them but I do think if I was to do it again I would go with 4.10

Arogg · 01-31-2024, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe.G

Honestly while you are in there you really should, The stock unit uses clutches and they do wear out. If you are swapping gears now is the time to do the bearings and the true trac. Buy the parts as money becomes available and install when ready. I went with 3.91 and I am very happy with them but I do think if I was to do it again I would go with 4.10

Yeah, i mean, i totally get that. Id love to do it all just to add to the mod list! Maybe ill try to snag a few side projects and hustle up some cash to do the gears and TruTrac before April. Now to decide between 3.91 and 4.10s. Ive been reading post after post and article after article and im no closer to deciding lol. In the end, im just looking to shave a little off my quarter time to keep my buddies car behind me. To this day, he hasnt beaten me yet but we are VERY close in times and hes done a little work since last track day

dreksnot · 02-02-2024, 11:55 PM

Our heavy cars need gear. 4.11

01-29-2024, 02:59 PM	#1
Arogg A legend in his own mind Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 827	Another Gear question Yes, another gear question..sorry. So I'm looking for an "inexpensive" upgrade to give me a little more of a leg up for the track day coming up in April. I got a buddy with a '15 5.0 and last time we were within 10ths of each other and he has since did a few upgrades. I figured gears would be the way. I basically only drive the car once in a while, yes, I drive it aggressively when I do but nothing crazy and never too far. Occasionally I go to Jersey to visit my dad but again, I'm pretty much just cruising. I hit the track MAYBE once a year, but more like once every other year. I was leaning 4:10s but im probably going 3:91. My installer who is very reputable in the area is DESPERATELY trying to convince me to also do a TruTrac. I know it would be beneficial but funds are tight even though im trying to upgrade. My current mods are in my signature. Only thing different would be that next weekend im swapping exhausts to a full 3" Corsa Xtreme. So my question... Do i really need this trutrac like hes saying? I really feel like I dont, at least not at this point. Should i just wait until I can afford to do it all? I really dont see me doing too much more to this car anytime soon and even then, it will probably just a be a cam. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS "The Mistress" Color matched OEM GFX / VIS Carbon Fiber Hood (absolute trash quality and customer service ) / Heritage Grille / 5% Windows / 30% Windshield tint with 5% visor strip / Tinted Exterior Lights / Streetfighter LA Spoiler / Morimoto XB LED fogs / LED sidemarkers / Airaid CAI / Hurst Short Throw / TSP LT's / No cats / No resonator / Corsa Xtreme Catback / Trifecta Tune / Factory amp replaced / 2 JL Audio 12's in the trunk / MRR 228 Wheels / BMR Springs / Moog Endlinks / R1 Concepts Rotors & Pads

01-29-2024, 03:38 PM	#2
Batmanntexas Drives: 2012 Camaro SS (2SS) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,374 View My Garage	Another option would be a converter. A stall converter will give your car a whole new personality, and it may be a necessity depending on your cam selection down the road. In either case, whether you decide to do gears or a converter, you would also benefit from a dedicated drag tire. Good luck and have fun! -Scott __________________ 745RWHP/634RWTQ on 93 @ 10psi 806/676 on E85 @ 10psi COTW 9/8/14

01-29-2024, 05:11 PM	#4
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,264	Honestly while you are in there you really should, The stock unit uses clutches and they do wear out. If you are swapping gears now is the time to do the bearings and the true trac. Buy the parts as money becomes available and install when ready. I went with 3.91 and I am very happy with them but I do think if I was to do it again I would go with 4.10 __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

02-02-2024, 11:55 PM	#6
dreksnot Served USN - Atomic Chimp Drives: 13 Camaro LSX434 TT M6, 21 ZLE A10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,605 View My Garage	Our heavy cars need gear. 4.11 __________________ In excess of 1,000WHP LSX434 \| AGP 65/65 TT \| BTR Equalizer Intake \| Trickflow 245cc cathedral \| BTR custom cam \| Cortex EBC \| n2mb WOT \| ID-1700x \| Brisk GR12S \| RPM Lv 7 TR6060 \| AGP's Triple 525LPH Fore Fuel \| Monster LT1-S Triple \| 4.11 DSS Proform 9", CF driveshaft, 1400hp axles \| Hurst Line Lock \| MGW Retro Short Throw w/old skool Hurst T-handle \| ADM solid subframe mounts \| Prothane Motor Mounts \| Revshift Poly Trans insert \| Moreno camber/caster plates