GM Reveals 2020 Chevrolet Corvette C8 Stingray

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[shaffe]

Originally Posted by hotlap

It’s all relative. If the Z06 can 0 to 60 in 2.9 sec like the Z51, I think the Chevy world will be fine with this FPC track terror. If it can’t outrun the $35k, Camaro LT1 A10 ...folks will be disappointed.

I expect it will be faster in a straight line than the Z51. Its a Chevy thing.

That's not at all what I am saying lol. I am not saying/inferring/implying it won't be faster.

What I am saying is people around here, everything they love about the OHV engine and all that low end torque and not needing it to spin to the moon to make power. this upcoming engine will have none of those characteristics that people here love

I believe you yourself said in one thread you love the low end torque because it makes everyday driving fun, having power everywhere. This engine won't have that, and I am just curious to see how many of those people think this is the greatest thing ever now

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by shaffe

That's not at all what I am saying lol. I am not saying/inferring/implying it won't be faster.

What I am saying is people around here, everything they love about the OHV engine and all that low end torque and not needing it to spin to the moon to make power. this upcoming engine will have none of those characteristics that people here love

I believe you yourself said in one thread you love the low end torque because it makes everyday driving fun, having power everywhere. This engine won't have that, and I am just curious to see how many of those people think this is the greatest thing ever now

Search my post history and you will find that I have said repeatedly, for years, that I get what the Voodoo is about. It would be insane fun to drive on a track with the engine held between 4500 to 8200 rpm. It would however be frustrating to try to maintain those engine speeds on the street.

The GT350 doesn't have a good low end. The Coyote with an A10 can compensate. A Coyote with a M6 will struggle in todays (16+) environment.

I reasonably expect that the C8 Z06, with a 5.5L direct injected FPC, is not going to disappoint on the street.

Time will tell. Can Chevy deliver an engine that doesn't burn a quart of oil every 500 miles or shake itself apart.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Search my post history and you will find that I have said repeatedly, for years, that I get what the Voodoo is about. It would be insane fun to drive on a track with the engine held between 4500 to 8200 rpm. It would however be frustrating to try to maintain those engine speeds on the street.

The GT350 doesn't have a good low end. The Coyote with an A10 can compensate. A Coyote with a M6 will struggle in todays (16+) environment.

I reasonably expect that the C8 Z06, with a 5.5L direct injected FPC, is not going to disappoint on the street.

Time will tell. Can Chevy deliver an engine that doesn't burn a quart of oil every 500 miles or shake itself apart.

And where do you think the C8 engine will need to be to make power if the rumors are true?

that is my point The very nature of the FPC engine is going to be to rev high and fast. If the Vette really does scream to 9K like the rumors say it won't have low end either and will only be making power in the high end of the power band

The 458 which this car was benchmarked against doesn't make peak torque(398 lb/ft) till 6,000 RPM.

The way your post is reading is basically what I said would happen lol

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GM confirmed today some 2020 orders will have to be converted to 2021 models.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by shaffe

And where do you think the C8 engine will need to be to make power if the rumors are true?

that is my point The very nature of the FPC engine is going to be to rev high and fast. If the Vette really does scream to 9K like the rumors say it won't have low end either and will only be making power in the high end of the power band

The 458 which this car was benchmarked against doesn't make peak torque(398 lb/ft) till 6,000 RPM.

The way your post is reading is basically what I said would happen lol

Go back and read what I wrote about it being relative.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Go back and read what I wrote about it being relative.

I did, I have read it several times. You said the ford would be fun on the track in the high rpms but frustrating on the street but the Corvette with a engine that will have the same attributes will be fine on the street. What am I missing?

Originally Posted by hotlap

. It would be insane fun to drive on a track with the engine held between 4500 to 8200 rpm. It would however be frustrating to try to maintain those engine speeds on the street.

The GT350 doesn't have a good low end. The Coyote with an A10 can compensate. A Coyote with a M6 will struggle in todays (16+) environment.

I reasonably expect that the C8 Z06, with a 5.5L direct injected FPC, is not going to disappoint on the street.
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[hotlap]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I did, I have read it several times. You said the ford would be fun on the track in the high rpms but frustrating on the street but the Corvette with a engine that will have the same attributes will be fine on the street. What am I missing?

No. About it being relative. The fail possibility is addressed

Originally Posted by hotlap

It’s all relative. If the Z06 can 0 to 60 in 2.9 sec like the Z51, I think the Chevy world will be fine with this FPC track terror. If it can’t outrun the $35k, Camaro LT1 A10 ...folks will be disappointed.

[shaffe]

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I think I get what you are saying but I am still confused lol. It sounds like you are saying as long as the C8Z is fast enough it doesn't matter which I sort of get that line of thinking, because I expect the C8Z to be a missle as well.

The only part that still has me hung up is this: Your words the Voodoo would be fun on the track between 4K and 8K where it makes its power. Frustrating on the street trying to maintain those engine speeds.

You then say the C8Z won't disappoint on the street...

but just by nature of the engine design and if the rumors are true of 600HP at 9K RPM this engine is going to need to be wound up just like the voodoo to be in the sweet spot. Get where I am getting confused?

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https://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/06...ng-huge-tires/


More Z06.

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

More Z06.

That wing is just awful. I'm sure the shape is dictated by function, but

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/06...ng-huge-tires/


More Z06.

Steam rollers for rear wheels look awesome but not sure about the wing. Was there mention of active aero for the Z06?

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by xc_SS/RS

Steam rollers for rear wheels look awesome but not sure about the wing. Was there mention of active aero for the Z06?

The article says active aero may be reserved for the ZR1 and possible Zora models.


I happen to like the wing. I hope the Z06 goes back to the light weight, track focused versions before the C7.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

The article says active aero may be reserved for the ZR1 and possible Zora models.


I happen to like the wing. I hope the Z06 goes back to the light weight, track focused versions before the C7.

There is no way it can achieve the lower weights of the C5 & C6 Z06. Not without using exotic materials like magnesium and lots of carbon fiber.

One of the reasons the C5 Z06 was so light was that it used components that barely held up and in some cases didn't hold up. I had 4 of them and all 4 of them required upgraded rotors because the stock ones would warp. Same with tranny and clutch components. It was light, but made cheaply.

It can be done, but not at the price point GM will price the Z06 at. Porsche manages to do it with the GT3, but that is $160K base and decently optioned closer to $200K.