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Originally Posted by formoutofchaos

curious do you think the 350 will hold its value far longer than the New 2016 SS?
the GT350 you can't even look at them now they are all above MSRP but to me they aren't gonna drop much as the years roll by...... Im mostly excited for 2017 1LE

When you only make 5000 a year which is close to 1/2 of what Chevy makes in a month, of course they will hold there value.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by formoutofchaos

curious do you think the 350 will hold its value far longer than the New 2016 SS?
the GT350 you can't even look at them now they are all above MSRP but to me they aren't gonna drop much as the years roll by...... Im mostly excited for 2017 1LE

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

It's a special model with Shelby on it.. Yes.

The GT350 was out at the time these awards were given out by Kelly Blue Book...

BEST RESALE VALUE AWARD: 2016 CAMARO SS

[titanfan]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

My dealer was giving me the car at MSRP, no BS markups. After I changed my mind my friend took over the order. Dealer gave me my deposit back, and took one from him and kept their word on price for him.

Why would any dealer take a deposit for a car like the GT350? It's not like if the car came in and you elected not to take delivery, they couldn't sell the car to twenty other people. In my experience, dealers who offer an MSRP deal on a hot car like the GT350 would not bother with a deposit. Which dealer was it again?

[Mike502]

47,000 Shelby GT 500's and they are a dime a dozen. 350 will just add more shelby's to the total. 5 years from now there will be over 60,000 shelbys. Just too too many. Not exclusive.
On top of this you have Shelbys from Shelby American. Shelby GT, Shelby GT 500KR, GT 350 and the super snake. They also will turn your
Mustang GT into a Shelby. There are just so so many Shelby's out there.
They are fun machines for sure just not exclusive and will depreciate like a Vettes . Vipers and the list goes on. It's great for us car guys when you buy used over the next 10 years.

[formoutofchaos]

Originally Posted by Mike502

47,000 Shelby GT 500's and they are a dime a dozen. 350 will just add more shelby's to the total. 5 years from now there will be over 60,000 shelbys. Just too too many. Not exclusive.
On top of this you have Shelbys from Shelby American. Shelby GT, Shelby GT 500KR, GT 350 and the super snake. They also will turn your
Mustang GT into a Shelby. There are just so so many Shelby's out there.
They are fun machines for sure just not exclusive and will depreciate like a Vettes . Vipers and the list goes on. It's great for us car guys when you buy used over the next 10 years.

Really Good points you made, I guess I was between waiting for the 2017 1Le and at the point figured it would be 45K, I also wonder how the car would function as a daily driver as well?

Than for the money If I could pick up a shelby GT 500 for 55K I kind of thought over the course of 5-6 years If I had to let it go it would probably retain more of that value , I like both cars I did love driving the 2016 SS very much .

I was even considering a 2011 shelby but i think the handling is crap

[oldman]

my two GLH-s only about 500 or so ever made. Carroll himself told me it was the best car he had ever made. LOL 30 years ago. they just fell apart so there goes the collectability. My 1998 Type R still running strong as 275 HP @ 9000 all motor RPM.. LOL.. Bout 3800 made for north America over 5 years. My son drives it now, I gave him the supercharged Challenger but he's into rice rockets.

I think looks has a lot to do with it. 1965 fastback... money, 2015 Hellcat... money, GLH-S Omni... err Wayne's world but worst.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by titanfan

Why would any dealer take a deposit for a car like the GT350? It's not like if the car came in and you elected not to take delivery, they couldn't sell the car to twenty other people. In my experience, dealers who offer an MSRP deal on a hot car like the GT350 would not bother with a deposit. Which dealer was it again?

It was a only a $500 good faith deposit from a dealer who I have purchased five cars from to show it would be my car. Not that have to explain myself to you - a well known story teller...

[Zeke.Malvo]

Originally Posted by oldman

my two GLH-s only about 500 or so ever made. Carroll himself told me it was the best car he had ever made. LOL 30 years ago. they just fell apart so there goes the collectability. My 1998 Type R still running strong as 275 HP @ 9000 all motor RPM.. LOL.. Bout 3800 made for north America over 5 years. My son drives it now, I gave him the supercharged Challenger but he's into rice rockets.

I think looks has a lot to do with it. 1965 fastback... money, 2015 Hellcat... money, GLH-S Omni... err Wayne's world but worst.

Actually, the GLHS has held it's value pretty well in good condition and has it's own following of people who appreciate and collect them.

The Type R probably will hold it's value ok too.

My dad's Caravan had 350,000 miles on it's original motor/transmission when we sold it. Anything can break apart or survive.

[bpang1234]

Originally Posted by oldman

my two GLH-s only about 500 or so ever made. Carroll himself told me it was the best car he had ever made. LOL 30 years ago. they just fell apart so there goes the collectability. My 1998 Type R still running strong as 275 HP @ 9000 all motor RPM.. LOL.. Bout 3800 made for north America over 5 years. My son drives it now, I gave him the supercharged Challenger but he's into rice rockets.

I think looks has a lot to do with it. 1965 fastback... money, 2015 Hellcat... money, GLH-S Omni... err Wayne's world but worst.

Wow you're nicer than I will be to my daughter! No way would I let her drive a nicely preserved Type-R. I'll probably let her have my Subaru Forester though

Then again, I guess the Type-R would go to your son anyways in your will so what the heck!

[titanfan]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

It was a only a $500 good faith deposit from a dealer who I have purchased five cars from to show it would be my car. Not that have to explain myself to you - a well known story teller...

So the dealer, from whom you have purchased many cars in the past, lacked enough faith in you to actually buy the car (or you faith in the dealer to sell you the car) you ordered, that it required a $500 deposit?

[oldman]

Originally Posted by titanfan

So the dealer, from whom you have purchased many cars in the past, lacked enough faith in you to actually buy the car (or you faith in the dealer to sell you the car) you ordered, that it required a $500 deposit?

Maybe you got bucks written on your forehead. The Ford dealer told me they required a $1000 among other things. You seem to
a) have never actually have owned or try to buy a Shelby
b) have too much money and don't know what to do with it.

I've owned and purchased two Shelbys both in the 80s. I actively looked into a Shelby this year and Ford was talking deposit $5K minimum above MSRP, really 10K minimum I just figured what I was going to bargain them down to. I actively looked into buy a Mustang V6 a few years back and have it converted to a supercharged Shelby.

So just for me, so I know where yo coming from please answer a or b. And if is B) amen bro it is your money.

[SpeedIsLife]

You keep saying "Ford" when it's the dealership...

FORD wasn't asking $10,000 over MSRP, the dealership was.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by Zeke.Malvo

Actually, the GLHS has held it's value pretty well in good condition and has it's own following of people who appreciate and collect them.

The Type R probably will hold it's value ok too.

My dad's Caravan had 350,000 miles on it's original motor/transmission when we sold it. Anything can break apart or survive.

Since I owned and raced two, I can tell you the value was zilch and there is no such thing as good condition for a Omni outside of putting it in an air condition garage with 10,000 miles. The local scraper had a charger in actual not too bad of shape for $1200, yes it was a GLH-S. I thought about it but I had too many toys as is. The may have moved it to the back lot, I highly doubt it sold.

Type R, I've also owned two, the first one I turbo and it got stolen from a locked garage. The second I've put 200K miles and from 20 ft away it looks new. I could jump in it today and drive it cross country. As it sits it is worth $12K to $15k as I've kept every stock part and the perf parts are in high demand and worth 5K+.

I've been offered mint low mile Type R for $25K and mint low mile GLH-S for $10K, so these should be indicative of true collectability.

Oh and the Type R's A/C works and my GLH-Ss I gave up on heat A/C and any interior part after a few years. We are talking Acura vs Omni. I will say the GLH-S had a really comfortable velour seat, no bolsters more like a van front seat. I was working in silicone valley with George Amdahl (IBM plug compatible mainframes) the M3 was high on my list. I looked into it and the GLH-S was better to my mind. Back then it was M3, GLH-S and Grand National. Given the heat soak of the Grand National the GLH-S was really a superior car street or track. The Camaro / Mustang were not factors, this was CA and it had to pass smog.

One interesting tidbit and it will never be reported: all GLH-S left with the Shelby shop with the Shelby brain at 205 HP stock. That 175 HP limited brain was all pretend to keep the Dodge warranty. As I said I purchased and owned two of them and the boost gauge was a true indicator to what brain was in the car.


Real collectables: my 440 Dart IF it did not turn to rust when I worked in CA. This was before any resto age and the entire car was nothing but rust. I ended up putting the drivetrain in a Signet (4dr slant six Valiant). The shell was beyond saving and I worked my way through engineering school at a body shop. So it ain't like I did not know how to fix bodies.

With the production numbers today, I can't see any of these cars reaching true collector status.
GLH-S 550 or so (Omni) same for Charger
Type R 500 each year, 1000+ during the last year.

Both cars were more than packages and came with many unique features.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

You keep saying "Ford" when it's the dealership...

FORD wasn't asking $10,000 over MSRP, the dealership was.

The dealership is part of Ford. It is the way Ford produces and markets the car that enables the dealership to rip no holes in their "customers".

Let me look it up for you with a google search, yep every FORD dealership, clearly starts with the word FORD... So you can pretend I'm not buying a Ford from Ford when I go to a Ford dealer. I think I'll keep calling the company and its dealer network Ford, cause that's is what it is.

Oh and "asking" is too nice of a word, more like extortion.

The thread is GT350 and you keep on pretending you can buy a GT350 from Henry Ford himself for MSRP. Well go ahead, make some money buy a GT350 and resell for a nice profit. Till then I will say either you don't like money or your just shilling for Ford. Which is it?