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The above is only a small sample of how companies are cutting their own throats by being greedy. My old fence is fine for now thankyouverymuch.
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You make me sick. Go ahead and read DGthe3's reply because i don't have the patience to reply to this.
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ok ok ok ... so I was wrong you don't have to be mean, but the UAW still needs a pay cut, the extortion has to stop
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i agree somebody has to start taking pay cuts... the executives who make more money than they could ever spend are my vote. AND I'm a Republican. So thats saying something.
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"With a light touch on the brakes, run the revs up a bit. Slip off the brake and bury the throttle. There's a light chirp as tires scratch for bite. Then comes a sub-5.0-second sled ride to 60 mph. A tick over 13.0 sec. and you're through the quarter-mile. It's a rush, of course, but not overly dramatic. Try the same thing with this pair's predecessors of 1970 or so and you'll find yourself in a bit of a wrestling match. Ain't progress wonderful? Maybe yes, and maybe sometimes it's fun to wrestle."
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Wag's working for a dollar a year. The exec's took a 40% pay cut recently. What really needs to happen is a swift handling of the legacy healthcare provided for the retirees. Thats whats bringing them down. I'd be interested to see the current salaried workforce total salary cost, vs the cost of retirees. I have a feeling the retired cost actually outweighs the current workforce cost.
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"With a light touch on the brakes, run the revs up a bit. Slip off the brake and bury the throttle. There's a light chirp as tires scratch for bite. Then comes a sub-5.0-second sled ride to 60 mph. A tick over 13.0 sec. and you're through the quarter-mile. It's a rush, of course, but not overly dramatic. Try the same thing with this pair's predecessors of 1970 or so and you'll find yourself in a bit of a wrestling match. Ain't progress wonderful? Maybe yes, and maybe sometimes it's fun to wrestle."
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your right. So far every single GM salaried employee has taken a 3-7% cut since the beginning of the year. They've also taken about a 10% cut since benefits were at its peak, so you're looking at about an average of 15% cut since about 2006. Sure, they could take more, but I don't think that's where the real problem is. Nevertheless, I'm sure the gov't will force GM to cut salaries another 10-20%.
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First off, proof? and assuming you can back that up, thats a step in the right direction. a step. Second, is this just GM or is this a Big 3 thing?
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I apologize, the 40% is actually 10%, I heard the numbers incorrectly. Nevertheless, here's an article: Quote:
In terms of the additional salary/benefit cuts, I could try to look through and find an article on it, but I know personally from my father discussing it with me. His heathcare coverage has changed, his fees for things like company cars have increased (they are not free for employees), and the 401k matching has dried up. Edit: looking into it further, I found this: Quote:
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Wiring harnesses made in Mexico
When is saw the "Made in Mexico" lable on the engine wiring harness of the
Camaro the first thought that came to mind is. I wonder if the workers assembling these harnesses enjoy the same standard of live as we do? I wonder if any of these worker can even afford to purchase these cars? After the race to the bottom that Mayor Bernero talks about is all over and we are all recieving the same wages as Mexico or China. Or, after all of our jobs have been out-sourced to countries like these. Who will be left that call afford to purchase any of the goods? |
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02-23-2009, 10:55 AM | #27 |
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*nothing said below is in any way directed at anyone.
The UAW does nothing that inherently makes them 'bad'....At least not anymore. The cold hard fact is that United States/Canada labor will cost more than anywhere else. Our standard of living is just far and above China/Mexico, etc. The UAW has nothing to do with that. To compound that...if you're CEO, and your first priority to cut costs is to slash UAW wages...you're an idiot: Labor accounts for less than 10% of a vehicle's cost. So even if you cut their wages 50%...you're going to save a massive 5% per vehicle? Care to calculate the pros v. cons of having an unhappy, dirt-paid workforce(quality anyone?) just to save ~750 bucks a vehicle? There are a host of other things that should be above that on your to-do list. Things like healthcare issues, retiree issues, dealership issues, corporate management and cost structure, materials used, quality gaps.... At this point, the Union is nothing more than a scape-goat to make comments like the one above...I mean Cutting their wages? It's been done. They will get paid no more than any import brand worker here in the US. Cut them anymore and your getting into that slave labor thing mentioned....fun, huh? |
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