04-21-2019, 10:23 PM | #1 |
Drives: Never just fly under the radar Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Kansas
Posts: 1,531
|
Gas Guzzler Tax
Curios how many of you have ever paid gas guzzler tax? If so when was the last time you had to and how much?
Last time I paid it was in 2006 on a GTO when I understood the tax to be aimed more at imports than domestics with poor fuel mileage.
__________________
1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
Old Skool Last edited by Tajefe Couple; 04-21-2019 at 10:46 PM. |
04-21-2019, 10:45 PM | #2 | |
CamaroFans.com
|
Quote:
I've paid from 1,300 to 2,300 on my last 4 cars. |
|
04-21-2019, 11:32 PM | #3 |
Drives: Camaro 1LE Join Date: May 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 1,348
|
I've never paid but I tend to buy used. The cars or trucks that I bought new was either except and/or did not qualify. Gas guzzler tax has nothing to do with import vs domestic from what I've ever seen.
|
04-22-2019, 06:51 AM | #4 |
Drives: 2017 Mosaic Bk ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South of Raleigh, NC
Posts: 9,470
|
$0 on my 2006 GTO because it had 3 pedals.
$1300 on '13 ZL1 3 pedals $1300 on '17 ZL1 3 pedals
__________________
|
04-22-2019, 07:34 AM | #5 |
Started#gottalovethatblue
|
I've never owned a new car so I can say that I've never paid the gas guzzler tax. However, if I did buy new, I'd still say it's a rip off. Just another way for the tree huggers to feel good about themselves.
__________________
|
04-22-2019, 02:07 PM | #6 |
Drives: Race Car Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Seffner, FL
Posts: 6,226
|
the Gas Guzzler Tax has nothing to do with being an Import
The U.S government introduced the Gas Guzzler Tax as a part of the Energy Tax Act. The tax was introduced to tax the purchase of inefficient vehicles at the same time that Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards were introduced. The Gas Guzzler Tax applies only to vehicles classified as cars, as opposed to light trucks. Since 1991, cars with a combined fuel economy rating under 22.5 mpg‑US (10.5 L/100 km; 27.0 mpg‑imp) have been subject to the tax. Light trucks, which includes virtually all sport-utility vehicles, pickup trucks and vans, are not subject to the tax. |
04-22-2019, 02:09 PM | #7 | |
Drives: A few Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Brandon, FL
Posts: 854
|
Quote:
I think I finally convinced him of that in the other thread. As for this topic, I've paid on a GG tax on the ZL1.
__________________
-Dave
HPDE/DD: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE || HPDE/DD: 2015 Subaru BRZ ||Tow Vehicle: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 8.1L || Weekend toy: 1994 MR2 Turbo || The other weekend toy: 1993 MR2 Turbo || Track car: 1998 Integra Type-R || Race car: 1996 Integra GS-R || New race car build: 1992 Honda Civic Hatchback Too many cars.. never. |
|
04-22-2019, 02:29 PM | #8 |
Drives: Never just fly under the radar Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Kansas
Posts: 1,531
|
So guess I was stating an incorrect fact about paying the tax due to my GTO being imported. My excuses lol-
I discussed the tax with the dealer and was told it was due to it being imported. I had purchased new vehicles with worse mileage before this and never paid the tax so for sure wanted to know why. Cars included a 1993 1/2 Formula, and '98 Trans Am, also a couple of SUV's. I had remembered foreign car companies being in the news and upset about the changes that seemed to target them. So I took the dealers word because they never make something up to just sell a car I'm certain. Suppose should have done more research. Up until now had never given it another thought unless complaining about taxes. If my information is correct now vehicles like SUV's, trucks, 4x4's, and others where excluded from the tax. I think it had been almost a decade since anything but the Viper owners had paid the tax when I purchased the Goat. The big 3 where also more adept to avoiding the tax for consumers, such as standard transmission vehicles having a higher mpg rating and avoiding it. Kind of like my 2012 2LS having 2:92 gears so Camaro could claim 30+mpg to compete with the Mustang. I had heard. I still haven't done much research on any of this and probably won't so feel free to correct me as this post is already about 10 minutes of my life I won't get back. So in short I blame misinformation and fake news. Lol The point being I was wrong about why I paid a tax in my passing statement to all those who are sticklers for what occurred when I bought my GTO in 2006 sorry for posting incorrect information. Guess in the instance no redaction allowed. Suppose my take away is in life much like when I owned or managed bars believe 1/2 of what you see and none of what you hear, and get the facts from reputable sources!
__________________
1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
Old Skool |
04-22-2019, 05:24 PM | #9 | |
Drives: '16 Z06 7 Spd, 2024 High Country HD Join Date: May 2015
Location: Kansas City area
Posts: 442
|
Quote:
|
|
04-22-2019, 06:15 PM | #10 | |
Drives: A few Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Brandon, FL
Posts: 854
|
Quote:
__________________
-Dave
HPDE/DD: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE || HPDE/DD: 2015 Subaru BRZ ||Tow Vehicle: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 8.1L || Weekend toy: 1994 MR2 Turbo || The other weekend toy: 1993 MR2 Turbo || Track car: 1998 Integra Type-R || Race car: 1996 Integra GS-R || New race car build: 1992 Honda Civic Hatchback Too many cars.. never. |
|
04-22-2019, 07:56 PM | #11 |
Drives: Never just fly under the radar Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Kansas
Posts: 1,531
|
I think the mpg requirement was slowly increased until a certain year. Perhaps that's why my other cars fell under the criteria. IDK but when validating your point think I saw something to that affect. Not certain about years and requirements but perhaps had something to do with it. Did also come across that about EPA mpg being determined independently of the manufacturer claims like you said. Help me out if I got any of this wrong as I've had my fill of looking up the GG tax Lol.
__________________
1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
Old Skool |
04-23-2019, 08:27 AM | #12 | |
Drives: A few Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Brandon, FL
Posts: 854
|
Quote:
__________________
-Dave
HPDE/DD: 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE || HPDE/DD: 2015 Subaru BRZ ||Tow Vehicle: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 8.1L || Weekend toy: 1994 MR2 Turbo || The other weekend toy: 1993 MR2 Turbo || Track car: 1998 Integra Type-R || Race car: 1996 Integra GS-R || New race car build: 1992 Honda Civic Hatchback Too many cars.. never. |
|
04-23-2019, 09:42 PM | #13 |
Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670 Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Seminole, Fl.
Posts: 8,009
|
My Zl1 was $2600 and the Sedan was $1300, and paid sales tax on top of each. Almost like double taxation... LOL, not really but seems like it.
__________________
|
Thread Tools | |
|
|