[RUQWIKR]

Originally Posted by Move_Over

Spacers are fine for the track with the correct thread engagement. Extended studs are so easy on this car my grandmother could have done it. Littlerly took me 10 minutes for both sides. I’ve been running spacers on track cars for years and there’s not an issue.

Rear stud change is not the cake walk the fronts are. I agree on the spacers with proper thread engagement.

[Provoste]

Originally Posted by Move_Over

Yes it is, then every set of wheels that go out have to be cut in house and that requires so much more labor, especially when the wheel face profile is dependent upon the offsets needed. A 0 and a 43mm offset have two totally different profiles for brake clearance and spoke shape. That’s why “custom” offset wheels are often much more expensive. Apex has these offsets cut in manufacturing to help keep costa down.

A small (3-15mm) spacers really are not an issue with extended studs to get the correct clearance. Next time you are in the paddock, go poke around some of the real race cars, you’ll see one or two.. Now, I wouldnt recommend bolt on spacers with the lug studs built in for the track nor would i hop on eBay and snag a set of spacers and go drive them 10/10 on the track. Not all spacers are created equal

This.

[Move_Over]

Originally Posted by RUQWIKR

Rear stud change is not the cake walk the fronts are. I agree on the spacers with proper thread engagement.

Do we need rear extended studs?

[USAFS197]

Color me crazy but, I’d just rather get wheels with the proper offset than to use a spacer. Also, I thought I saw a thread about how much of a pain in the ass it was to swap out studs on these cars...

[Move_Over]

Originally Posted by USAFS197

Color me crazy but, I’d just rather get wheels with the proper offset than to use a spacer. Also, I thought I saw a thread about how much of a pain in the ass it was to swap out studs on these cars...

Whatever works for your budget man. Apex wheels are great track wheels for the price. And they are proven for years, lots of new companies coming out these days.

The front studs are beyond easy. All you need is a sledge or dead blow, a few washers and a lug nut. There was a guy on here that took his whole brake assembly off and pulled the hub, super unnecessary. Since we don’t really have a brake shield our studs just pop right out the back. Fronts take 10 mins. Easier than a pad change

[Provoste]

Originally Posted by USAFS197

Color me crazy but, I’d just rather get wheels with the proper offset than to use a spacer. Also, I thought I saw a thread about how much of a pain in the ass it was to swap out studs on these cars...

You’re not crazy, but then you can’t run a true square wheel/tire package without spacers. The front studs are the easiest I’ve ever done. You don’t even have to remove the brake rotor or caliper. Rear studs are always more of a challenge, but you don’t need a rear spacer with the Apex setup.

[Badgerbimmer]

I am also not a fan of running hub centric rings to get a wheel to fit. As a long time user of Apex wheels on my M3 track car it is very disappointing to me that Apex has not stepped up to the plate and given the Camaro community some real wheel options.

[Move_Over]

Originally Posted by Badgerbimmer

I am also not a fan of running hub centric rings to get a wheel to fit. As a long time user of Apex wheels on my M3 track car it is very disappointing to me that Apex has not stepped up to the plate and given the Camaro community some real wheel options.

You’ll be pleasantly surprised in a few months then

[MatthewAMEL]

Originally Posted by Move_Over

You’ll be pleasantly surprised in a few months then

That would be great...Apex has been singing that song for 18 months now.

[NickyRacerBoy]

18 here.
10.5 F
11.0 R
But have two sets so could run 10.5 square
Ford Motorsports Studs.

This is before I got more aggressive with a camber and Hoosiers which I no longer run
https://youtu.be/uKTw78hKCmg

[NickyRacerBoy]

Some pic. Thick spacers for sure. Doesn't seem to affect my driving

[RXtacy]

Originally Posted by RUQWIKR

Rear stud change is not the cake walk the fronts are. I agree on the spacers with proper thread engagement.

The setups being discussed don't need longer rear studs.

Originally Posted by USAFS197

Color me crazy but, I’d just rather get wheels with the proper offset than to use a spacer. Also, I thought I saw a thread about how much of a pain in the ass it was to swap out studs on these cars...

If you're referring to my install thread I would not say it was a pain in the ass. At all.

Originally Posted by Move_Over

Whatever works for your budget man. Apex wheels are great track wheels for the price. And they are proven for years, lots of new companies coming out these days.

The front studs are beyond easy. All you need is a sledge or dead blow, a few washers and a lug nut. There was a guy on here that took his whole brake assembly off and pulled the hub, super unnecessary. Since we don’t really have a brake shield our studs just pop right out the back. Fronts take 10 mins. Easier than a pad change

That was my thread. Pulling the hub is incredibly easy as well. I also mentioned in the thread you can do it with a lug nut without pulling the hubs. Either way they are quite easy.

Originally Posted by Provoste

You’re not crazy, but then you can’t run a true square wheel/tire package without spacers. The front studs are the easiest I’ve ever done. You don’t even have to remove the brake rotor or caliper. Rear studs are always more of a challenge, but you don’t need a rear spacer with the Apex setup.

This. If you want to rotate a truly square setup while going as wide as possible you are going to need front spacers regardless.

I got my Apex track setup on clearance for like $250/wheel. I'm not going to complain about running hub rings when the wheels are cheaper than the tires

[RXtacy]

This is my 18x10.5 with 295/30/18 square setup. Using 12mm spacers in the front, no strut grinding, maxed out camber.

[Scargoes]

Originally Posted by Move_Over

Does he have the federal RSRR in a 305?

I’d be interested in a set for auto X if he does

No. They stop at a 275/35/19 in the RS-RR. They say they will go on a 11" wheel but I'm skeptical. I've seen pictures of them on their side next to a 285 RE71R and they are the same height, both unmounted. Even is it's no faster than OE tires, its a plus at half the price. I'm not sure why Federal doesnt offer anything wider in this tire. They do have a 305/30/20 and 295/30/20 I'd be willing to try for a street tire. It has a 240 treadwear but looks to be better all arounder. It's the Evoluzion F60.


Thanks for uploading the pictures.