Spied: Is this the mid-engined Corvette?

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

So you're saying GM didn't take any learnings from the DP Corvette racing program to build the C8...please explain.

that's exactly what I'm saying! Nothing in the Corvette DP's was built by GM.

The Chassis were built by Coyote, Dallara & Riley. The Motors were built by KaTech. Electronics are MoTec.

There is nothing to crossover

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

that's exactly what I'm saying! Nothing in the Corvette DP's was built by GM.

The Chassis were built by Coyote, Dallara & Riley. The Motors were built by KaTech. Electronics are MoTec.

There is nothing to crossover

And they didn't build the C5R, C6R or C7R...so none of that translated to the road cars?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

And they didn't build the C5R, C6R or C7R...so none of that translated to the road cars?

I believe the C#.R's still used production frames from Bowling Green. Plus the homologation rules put restrictions on what changes could be made by race teams to the bodywork. So lessons/requests from racing needed to be incorporated into the next-gen road cars.



Prototype racing is a different thing entirely. I doubt GM is learning much more from those cars than they're getting from NASCAR with the Camaro.

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by NW-99SS

And they didn't build the C5R, C6R or C7R...so none of that translated to the road cars?

What do you want carried over? Race Cars & Road Cars are two totally different things!

[BMR Sales]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I believe the C#.R's still used production frames from Bowling Green. Plus the homologation rules put restrictions on what changes could be made by race teams to the bodywork. So lessons/requests from racing needed to be incorporated into the next-gen road cars.



Prototype racing is a different thing entirely. I doubt GM is learning much more from those cars than they're getting from NASCAR with the Camaro.

The C*Rs were made by Pratt&Miller. Your 2nd point is what I've been talking about - whether Nascar, IMSA or IndyCar, there isn't crossover anymore!

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

The C*Rs were made by Pratt&Miller. Your 2nd point is what I've been talking about - whether Nascar, IMSA or IndyCar, there isn't crossover anymore!

Lol really? My real quick Google search says technology still transfers between the C#.R cars and their road car equivalents

I can also point out a few instances where tech transferred from LMP1/LMP1H cars to road cars. It still happens and I guarantee you GM is learning from their programs

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

The C*Rs were made by Pratt&Miller. Your 2nd point is what I've been talking about - whether Nascar, IMSA or IndyCar, there isn't crossover anymore!

So how did the C6 Z06 end up with a 7.0L LS7...?

You can't really believe that GM spends the amount of money to run teams in IMSA and not use any data or tech for their road cars?

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

and yet, you don't actually list any Technology Transfer!

See above...

Dry sump, 7.0l engine displacement, rectangle intake ports, and on and on.

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

and yet, you don't actually list any Technology Transfer!

I'll give you a few and hope you're interested enough to go Google the rest for your own knowledge.

The LS2 is directly related to tech/lessons learned on the track during the C5.R era. The C5.R also shaped the C6 body to help address issues that were faced while racing. That gave us a Corvette with a wide front grille, sealed headlights, lower drag coefficient, and a lighter curb weight.

C6.R originally used a 7.0 V8 which is why we were given a C6 Z06 with the LS7. Aero enhancements on the Z06 were directly related to knowledge gained from the C6.R.

Aluminum chassis/frame, carbon body panels, aerodynamic enhancements, etc.

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

Nothing New here

Surely you can't be this dense while representing a brand name on the internet...

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

Great, not only can't you understand what I'm saying, but because I disagree with you, you want to start slinging Insults! And unlike you, I'm not hiding behind a screen name.

Other things that you don't realize is that I work part-time for GM as Instructor & saw a C8 in person 14 months ago, I've been a Racing Instructor for over 30 Years and raced more miles than I can count.

Congratulations, you have completely embarrassed the brand you represent. Thankfully, I never made the mistake of buying anything from you...I'm sure your boss is thrilled.

Seeing a C8 has nothing to do with knowing where GM got their R&D from - which is painfully obvious by your deflection responses.

It's also quite blatant that you know absolutely NOTHING about the 7.0l engine program from the C5R and C6R Corvettes, and how that derived the LS7.

Anyway, since I prefer words from the horses mouth, I will let you argue with Doug Fehan:

As Corvette Racing program manager Doug Fehan descibes it, the C7.R benefited from “cascade engineering.”* Says Fehan, “You build a great road car, homologate it and make a great race car.* You learn things in that race car, and it gets moved into the next-generation road car and then you homologate that (for racing).* Look at the progression from C6, C6.R, Z06, ZR-1 and now C7, C7 Z06 and (the) C7.R.* In each of those model years, production-wide, you saw more and more racing content.”

https://www.corvsport.com/c7-r-anatomy-race-car/

I look forward to your next deflection...

[NW-99SS]

More deflections...as noted.

I guess the head of Corvette Racing for GM has no idea what he is talking about?

[xc_SS/RS]

Originally Posted by BMR Sales

^^^ I'm afraid your infantile debate is over for me as I put you on Ignore. This Forum and others are no place for insults when you don't like someone else's opinion.

Yes, I have seen a C8 and have one on order. I deal with GM Engineers so I have a pretty good idea where the R&D comes from.

Good Night & Good Riddance!

Infantile? Sure, let's just ignore the informative videos made by the man who runs the Corvette Racing Program discussing technology transfer between the race car and road car, and vice versa.

Oh, he's also the Chief Engineer of Corvette. But you probably already knew this being the wise and knowledgeable person you are.

Man, you must be fun at parties.

Enjoy that C8 bud.

[BMR Sales]

I said Infantile because I have no need to receive insults from Internet Cowboys!

What, you don't think I know who Doug Fehan is? What about my buddy Dan Binks.