2016/2017 Camaro Cold Air Intake Comparison with Dyno Results (CAI/Mishimoto/Stock) - Page 2

brutusvk · 08-19-2016, 11:20 AM

I do like the sound of the CAI inc too. will be even better with the whistle sound gone.

Tridius · 08-19-2016, 11:49 AM

Most of the comments on youtube show responses of people in relief that they can keep their money and use it on other products. I for one was debating whether a CAI would be something I could benefit from but for whistle sound and 2 HP, my money would be better spent on other things.

Sales @ CAI Inc · 08-19-2016, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BadBowtieProductions

Hmm, very interesting results. Can't wait to test my CAI intake now. I was told they were 3 weeks from shipping on August 4th, so hopefully it ships next week. I plan on doing a back to back test too.

Thanks, we can't wait to see our system on your ride! Our goal is to have all of our orders shipped out by the end of August.

Sales @ CAI Inc · 08-19-2016, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brutusvk

I do like the sound of the CAI inc too. will be even better with the whistle sound gone.

Thank You for your support!!! We are shipping out the whistle eliminator part, by the end of August, to those that have registered their systems on our website and also emailed us at (support@coldairinductions.com) their serial number, name and ship address.

newmoon · 08-19-2016, 01:58 PM

Expecting gains from nothing but a CAI is wishful thinking IMO, maybe if its a ram air style setup at speed you might see a small gain. Thanks for the testing, it might save owners a few dollars.

Roto-fab 1 · 08-19-2016, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tridius

Most of the comments on youtube show responses of people in relief that they can keep their money and use it on other products. I for one was debating whether a CAI would be something I could benefit from but for whistle sound and 2 HP, my money would be better spent on other things.

We are confident that future testing will prove Roto-fab is the top performer. Since our last dyno, which gained an honest 12 HP, hood closed, we have increased our air box and air filter size. We also made some key changes to the MAF housing. Our goal for peak gain is 15-18 HP, and we are very excited for Camaro6 members to review and test our system!

keon718nyc · 08-19-2016, 02:54 PM

Can't wait to get the part Cold Air Inductions is making to get rid of the Whistle sound. I really would love to use the CAI again soon....

V8SS · 08-19-2016, 03:23 PM

Thanks Sledge!

Razzaa · 08-19-2016, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Roto-fab 1

We are confident that future testing will prove Roto-fab is the top performer. Since our last dyno, which gained an honest 12 HP, hood closed, we have increased our air box and air filter size. We also made some key changes to the MAF housing. Our goal for peak gain is 15-18 HP, and we are very excited for Camaro6 members to review and test our system!

If independent testing of your intake shows anywhere near 15hp you can take my money!!!

Lord Dirt · 08-19-2016, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Razzaa

If independent testing of your intake shows anywhere near 15hp you can take my money!!!

same

Sledgehammer70 · 08-19-2016, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Razzaa

If independent testing of your intake shows anywhere near 15hp you can take my money!!!

Judging by their design and the crappy make due test I did with a stack design, I believe their claims.

Lord Dirt · 08-19-2016, 04:34 PM

Excuse my ignorance but what are the pros and cons for a dry and oiled filter?

Ian SS · 08-19-2016, 05:16 PM

Cliff notes pls. Can barely make out some of the numbers on the video.

TSloper · 08-19-2016, 05:22 PM

Some comments...

- Your results are as expected

- The only critique I have is that you didn't reveal timing and AFR data (bung placement not tailpipe). I believe you were just shooting for a bolt on and dyno methodology but the AFR would have really highlighted the effects on the MAF accuracy vs stock. Only the stock intake MAF numbers can be considered accurate. To say CAI has higher MAF numbers doesn't mean it's flowing more. The only way to conclude that would be to have the timing and AFR match at a given RPM to the stock data - AND - the dyno curves show a gain at that RPM.

- MAP data would have helped clear the picture as well. If the MAP didn't move any significant amount between runs across the RPM band the intakes aren't doing squat for improved mass air flow.

- Rotofab might have something to offer. I'd have faith in them if they wills be willing to show AFR and timing on same day runs under similar weather conditions.

- A differential pressure meter would put to rest where the restrictions are and if there are areas for improvement (i.e. Larger filter or larger inlet or whatever). If there isn't a significant pressure drop across an element or from one end of the intake to the other then there just isn't much to be gained by engineering a new piece of plastic.

08-19-2016, 11:49 AM	#16
Tridius Drives: 2017 2SS Camaro (Coming Soon!) Join Date: May 2016 Location: Texas Posts: 110	Most of the comments on youtube show responses of people in relief that they can keep their money and use it on other products. I for one was debating whether a CAI would be something I could benefit from but for whistle sound and 2 HP, my money would be better spent on other things. __________________ 2SS Black w/ Black Metallic Rally Stripes, Adrenaline Red interior, A8, NPP, MRC, Black Bow Ties, Low-gloss Black 5-spokes ------------------Order: TMBPP6--------------------- 1100 Status: 5/16/2016 \| 2000 Status: 5/17/2016 3000 Status: 5/18/2016 \| 3300 Status: 5/25/2016 6/6 TPW! 3400 Status: 5/27/2016 \| 3800 Status: 6/08/2016 Built! 4200 Status: 6/09/2016 \| 4300 Status: 6/10/2016 4B00 Status: 6/21/2016 \| 4200 Status: 6/30/2016 Shipped! 4800 Status: 7/12/2016 \| 5000 Status: 7/12/2016 --------------6000 Status 7/20/2016-----------------

08-19-2016, 01:58 PM	#19
newmoon Drives: 2019 GT350 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NC Posts: 3,232	Expecting gains from nothing but a CAI is wishful thinking IMO, maybe if its a ram air style setup at speed you might see a small gain. Thanks for the testing, it might save owners a few dollars. __________________ 2019 GT350 RR 2013 Boss Mustang 2012 SRT Challenger 392 auto 12:40s 112 stock 2012 Ford Mustang 5.0. Brembo, 3:73s 2010 SS, LS3, Cammed, LTs, 12:20s 2004 Redfire Cobra, Pullied & Tuned 1986 GT, Ed Curtis 347ci, 11:20s motor. 10:30s 100-hp shot

08-19-2016, 05:16 PM	#27
Ian SS Drives: 2016 1SS, 2017 JKU Wrangler Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San Diego Posts: 876 View My Garage	Cliff notes pls. Can barely make out some of the numbers on the video. __________________ SLO 1SS - sold 1SS MRC NPP 6MT 2018 Ram Rebel 4x4 5.7

08-19-2016, 11:20 AM	#15
brutusvk Drives: future 2016 SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 847	I do like the sound of the CAI inc too. will be even better with the whistle sound gone.

08-19-2016, 02:54 PM	#21
keon718nyc Drives: Challenger SP Shaker/Arcadia Denali Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: New York City Posts: 1,928	Can't wait to get the part Cold Air Inductions is making to get rid of the Whistle sound. I really would love to use the CAI again soon....

08-19-2016, 03:23 PM	#22
V8SS Drives: 2017 M6 NFG Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 214	Thanks Sledge!

08-19-2016, 04:34 PM	#26
Lord Dirt Drives: 2016 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: ARLINGTON, TX Posts: 157	Excuse my ignorance but what are the pros and cons for a dry and oiled filter?

08-19-2016, 05:22 PM	#28
TSloper Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Mount Dora, FL Posts: 779	Some comments... - Your results are as expected - The only critique I have is that you didn't reveal timing and AFR data (bung placement not tailpipe). I believe you were just shooting for a bolt on and dyno methodology but the AFR would have really highlighted the effects on the MAF accuracy vs stock. Only the stock intake MAF numbers can be considered accurate. To say CAI has higher MAF numbers doesn't mean it's flowing more. The only way to conclude that would be to have the timing and AFR match at a given RPM to the stock data - AND - the dyno curves show a gain at that RPM. - MAP data would have helped clear the picture as well. If the MAP didn't move any significant amount between runs across the RPM band the intakes aren't doing squat for improved mass air flow. - Rotofab might have something to offer. I'd have faith in them if they wills be willing to show AFR and timing on same day runs under similar weather conditions. - A differential pressure meter would put to rest where the restrictions are and if there are areas for improvement (i.e. Larger filter or larger inlet or whatever). If there isn't a significant pressure drop across an element or from one end of the intake to the other then there just isn't much to be gained by engineering a new piece of plastic.

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