Cam only Thread

6spdhyperblue · 08-26-2016, 09:39 AM

So Livernois just confirmed that M6 LT1s do not have AFM lifters.

Unfortunately I think this just gave me the push I needed to throw in a cam.
For now I'm thinking a MSD intake and a mid range street/strip cam.

Does anyone know if the LT1 has the ability to slide the rods in to keep the lifters up to swap cams like the LS motors?

6spdhyperblue · 08-26-2016, 09:47 AM

just found it at superchevy. yay

slick3 · 08-26-2016, 11:46 AM

I am so happy right now

Although, the heads are so easy to take off I might just swap them as well.

I havent read much about any proven power from cnc cylinder head work for the LT1.

H/C/I and Exhaust manifolds should be at 500 easy...

6spdhyperblue · 08-26-2016, 12:13 PM

i hope to find a cam that will work with the stock headers, choppy idle with ZERO surging, and good power under the curve. Not at all max effort, my thinking that just removing the SMOG and CAFE constraints should open it up. hoping get SOLID mid 11s with a drag radial.

Danew_377 · 08-26-2016, 12:26 PM

That is nice to know. Like many have said, it's just the price of the work needed for install is keeping many from going that route. Including myself for the time being

6spdhyperblue · 08-26-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danew_377

That is nice to know. Like many have said, it's just the price of the work needed for install is keeping many from going that route. Including myself for the time being

is there something on these cars im not seeing? i would think the install on this car would be MUCH easier than on a 4th gen

vince3 · 08-26-2016, 01:06 PM

What should the labor and parts cost for the swap?

Ian SS · 08-26-2016, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicul15

is there something on these cars im not seeing? i would think the install on this car would be MUCH easier than on a 4th gen

Apparently its time consuming because everything is sealed with RTV instead of gaskets and takes forever to clean up. At least that is the excuse.

6spdhyperblue · 08-27-2016, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by slo_1ss

Apparently its time consuming because everything is sealed with RTV instead of gaskets and takes forever to clean up. At least that is the excuse.

yeah i wouldn't use that guy as a benchmark tho.

i would rather be scraping RTV than working in a 4th gen engine bay. a third of the engine was under the windshield. ive done multiple cam swaps. I always used RTV on the front pan. so that RTV excuse is pretty lame to me. I would get some quotes from some real shops.

Joe@CPR.com · 08-27-2016, 10:26 AM

on the new lt motors a cam is more involved, installing springs on the new heads is terrible compared to the old ls heads. No good tool out there to do it with heads on car (we are building one) the rtv thing isn't that bad but does add more time to the install for sure. On the c7's it's more involved as the cradle comes off to get the pan off, to pull front cover/oil pump. Plus the heads come off too. we have done a lot of cam's in the new lt motors and been doing these motors since we got vin #12 2014 C7.

Richard0nee · 08-27-2016, 10:38 AM

One of my future mods.. 500-550 WHP NA, chopy/lopey idle, mid 11 sec car, drive-ability, reliability.. I'll take it!

Got quoted 4.5k for cam package with lifters, rockers, everything except for headers.. Will prolly need the headers so..

Perez_J310 · 08-28-2016, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard0nee

One of my future mods.. 500-550 WHP NA, chopy/lopey idle, mid 11 sec car, drive-ability, reliability.. I'll take it!

Got quoted 4.5k for cam package with lifters, rockers, everything except for headers.. Will prolly need the headers so..

Richard,
Saw you're from Redondo, I'm also here in the south bay (harbor area). Was wondering what shop you had quote your cam job. Been searching Google and so far nothing promising.

AbsolutHank · 08-28-2016, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe@CPR.com

on the new lt motors a cam is more involved, installing springs on the new heads is terrible compared to the old ls heads. No good tool out there to do it with heads on car (we are building one) the rtv thing isn't that bad but does add more time to the install for sure. On the c7's it's more involved as the cradle comes off to get the pan off, to pull front cover/oil pump. Plus the heads come off too. we have done a lot of cam's in the new lt motors and been doing these motors since we got vin #12 2014 C7.

Are you planning to build and sell that tool?

Joe@CPR.com · 08-28-2016, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbsolutHank

Are you planning to build and sell that tool?

Not sure honestly.

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08-26-2016, 12:26 PM	#5
Danew_377 Chief Bief Drives: Nightfall Gray Camaro 1SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Norfolk, Virginia Posts: 208	That is nice to know. Like many have said, it's just the price of the work needed for install is keeping many from going that route. Including myself for the time being __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS M6 JLT Intake, LT2 Manifold, LT5 TB, CSP 2" headers, AWE Catback Exhaust, Apex ARC-8 Wheels. 426whp/434wtq

08-26-2016, 09:39 AM	#1
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,670	Cam only Thread So Livernois just confirmed that M6 LT1s do not have AFM lifters. Unfortunately I think this just gave me the push I needed to throw in a cam. For now I'm thinking a MSD intake and a mid range street/strip cam. Does anyone know if the LT1 has the ability to slide the rods in to keep the lifters up to swap cams like the LS motors?

08-26-2016, 09:47 AM	#2
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,670	just found it at superchevy. yay

08-26-2016, 11:46 AM	#3
slick3 Drives: Garnet Red - 20 ZLE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,010	I am so happy right now Although, the heads are so easy to take off I might just swap them as well. I havent read much about any proven power from cnc cylinder head work for the LT1. H/C/I and Exhaust manifolds should be at 500 easy...

08-26-2016, 12:13 PM	#4
6spdhyperblue Drives: 6th gen Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,670	i hope to find a cam that will work with the stock headers, choppy idle with ZERO surging, and good power under the curve. Not at all max effort, my thinking that just removing the SMOG and CAFE constraints should open it up. hoping get SOLID mid 11s with a drag radial.

08-26-2016, 01:06 PM	#7
vince3 Drives: Hyper Blue 16' M6 1ss Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Houston TX Posts: 194	What should the labor and parts cost for the swap?

08-27-2016, 10:26 AM	#10
Joe@CPR.com Account Suspended Drives: 03 vette, 94 trans am, 04 gto Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 995	on the new lt motors a cam is more involved, installing springs on the new heads is terrible compared to the old ls heads. No good tool out there to do it with heads on car (we are building one) the rtv thing isn't that bad but does add more time to the install for sure. On the c7's it's more involved as the cradle comes off to get the pan off, to pull front cover/oil pump. Plus the heads come off too. we have done a lot of cam's in the new lt motors and been doing these motors since we got vin #12 2014 C7.

08-27-2016, 10:38 AM	#11
Richard0nee Drives: 2016 SS M6, NPP Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Hawthorne, CA Posts: 1,957	One of my future mods.. 500-550 WHP NA, chopy/lopey idle, mid 11 sec car, drive-ability, reliability.. I'll take it! Got quoted 4.5k for cam package with lifters, rockers, everything except for headers.. Will prolly need the headers so..

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