Do you experience high cost of tires and gas at the track with your ZL1?

Bosse'sBoss · 09-15-2022, 11:48 PM

Hi Guys,
I was looking at the attached video on how an owner of a Shelby GT500 complains about excessive tire wear and excessive gasoline usage from his car at the track.

Do you experience the same situation with your ZL1 at the track?
https://youtu.be/7TNUPUxNcHM

ohsmily · 09-16-2022, 01:00 AM

Ours don't come with "special" Cup 2 tires.

I get just under 3 mpg in my 2019 ZLE A10. Around half a tank per 20 minute session.

I get four good days out of my F1 Eagle Supercar tires (with track camber/alignment) and rotating inside/outside.

What has been your experience?

Bosse'sBoss · 09-16-2022, 01:33 AM

The only 3 cars that I tracked were my '02 Porsche Carrera 911 and my '11 Mustang GT 5.0 w/. track package in both my gas tank lasted the full day just the outside of the tires had some wear. I tracked also my Corvette C7 Z51 AT but I wasn't able to do many laps because the rear overheated and had to abandon the track. I did not tracked neither my 5th gen ZL1 nor my 6th gen Camaro SS.
Just was thinking if I upgrade to a ZL1 or SS1LE which would be the best track toy that does not cost me too much on replacing wearables and gas?

SoCal Smith · 09-16-2022, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosse'sBoss

Hi Guys,
I was looking at the attached video on how an owner of a Shelby GT500 complains about excessive tire wear and excessive gasoline usage from his car at the track.

Do you experience the same situation with your ZL1 at the track?
https://youtu.be/7TNUPUxNcHM

The short: It's around a 4,000lb+ (gas+driver) car that you are driving quickly/fast on a road course. It's going to eat consumables a decent amount.

It all depends on the track, your setup, and how you drive. Some tracks are easier on different cars and consumables. If you are driving 10/10, you will be consuming even more. You can control/reduce these costs by making a few car changes, but you will only out weight the cost if you plan on tracking frequently.

Stephen12ZL1 · 09-16-2022, 05:59 AM

consumables are about 1 gallon of fuel per lap, tires every 4-5 track days, and brake pads every 4-5. Fluid changes when necessary.

VaporPressure · 09-16-2022, 06:29 AM

Be aware that some are getting even less time from new 3Rs. My last event I corded brand new front 3Rs after 2 days. I'm usually using about 1/3 tank on a 20 min session, and almost half a tank on 30 min sessions so for me it can be multiple trips to the gas station throughout each track day.

The upside is that it's a ton of fun on track and for me it has been fully capable with just a brake fluid upgrade. The last event was almost empty track all day long for 2 days so it was pretty aggressive driving all day, and I had no overheating issues or bad brake fade with the stock pads. Just a lot of rubber and gas missing at the end.

JSH · 09-16-2022, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosse'sBoss

Hi Guys,
I was looking at the attached video on how an owner of a Shelby GT500 complains about excessive tire wear and excessive gasoline usage from his car at the track.

Do you experience the same situation with your ZL1 at the track?
https://youtu.be/7TNUPUxNcHM

As a general rule, you'll go thru a set of tires every 2 or 3 days at the track. Too many variables are involved to be more precise.

BROCKgoFAST · 09-16-2022, 08:47 AM

At Sebring in my ZL1 1LE I would fill up after every session and there are 8 sessions in a weekend. I probably didnt need to but wasnt taking a chance on fuel starvation or cutting a session short because I was low on gas.

Tires can go quick or you can make them last depending on your driving, PSI, and aggression.

Bosse'sBoss · 09-16-2022, 10:41 AM

Thanks for sharing Guys! ZL1 (1LE) & SS1LE. Are great track cars. Congrats on your rides!

DaveC113 · 09-16-2022, 10:47 AM

Wow. Sounds like the ZLE costs about 2x a SLE to run on track? ...and the SLE isn't exactly cheap.

kropscamaro16 · 09-16-2022, 11:17 AM

yup ive thought about getting rid of my modded ss for a zl1 1le and then i hear stories like that and im like ooof not only is the car more expensive but brakes tires and gas are way worse on the zl1 1le...im not that rich lol

DaveC113 · 09-16-2022, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

yup ive thought about getting rid of my modded ss for a zl1 1le and then i hear stories like that and im like ooof not only is the car more expensive but brakes tires and gas are way worse on the zl1 1le...im not that rich lol

Yeah, it's one of those factors I've been waffling on as far as ordering a ZLE, it's one of the most expensive cars to run in terms of consumables because of all the weight and power. It does seem like the difference is nearly double and that is a pretty big deal for my budget.

I wish Cayman GTS or GT4 were priced about 20% less but in the long run they may be a batter car to invest in. Maybe not ultimately quite as fast but not sure I care that much, they'll be more than fun enough.

Or get another SLE for half the price of the GTS. With Camaros going away even the SLE is likely to appreciate.

raptor5244 · 09-16-2022, 12:21 PM

Now you know why Miatas and GR86s are so popular at the track.

AZIROC · 09-16-2022, 12:33 PM

Ehh.. I guess I just always took it as part of playing the game having a track car. I know I'll need new tires after 3x 4-20 min sessions. I know I'll need an oil change around the same time. I bring an extra 5 gals of gas just incase (gas light usually some on near the end of the 4th session).

09-15-2022, 11:48 PM	#1
Bosse'sBoss Drives: '16 Camaro SS 6 spd manual transm. Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: RGV Texas Posts: 1,463	Do you experience high cost of tires and gas at the track with your ZL1? Hi Guys, I was looking at the attached video on how an owner of a Shelby GT500 complains about excessive tire wear and excessive gasoline usage from his car at the track. Do you experience the same situation with your ZL1 at the track? https://youtu.be/7TNUPUxNcHM __________________ '16 Camaro SS Prior cars: '14 Corvette C7 Stingray Z51 '14 Camaro ZL1 w/. Recaro seats '11 Mustang GT 5.0 w. track package '02 Porsche 911 Carrera '05 Infiniti G35 coupe sport

09-16-2022, 01:33 AM	#3
Bosse'sBoss Drives: '16 Camaro SS 6 spd manual transm. Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: RGV Texas Posts: 1,463	The only 3 cars that I tracked were my '02 Porsche Carrera 911 and my '11 Mustang GT 5.0 w/. track package in both my gas tank lasted the full day just the outside of the tires had some wear. I tracked also my Corvette C7 Z51 AT but I wasn't able to do many laps because the rear overheated and had to abandon the track. I did not tracked neither my 5th gen ZL1 nor my 6th gen Camaro SS. Just was thinking if I upgrade to a ZL1 or SS1LE which would be the best track toy that does not cost me too much on replacing wearables and gas? __________________ '16 Camaro SS Prior cars: '14 Corvette C7 Stingray Z51 '14 Camaro ZL1 w/. Recaro seats '11 Mustang GT 5.0 w. track package '02 Porsche 911 Carrera '05 Infiniti G35 coupe sport

09-16-2022, 05:59 AM	#5
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,808	consumables are about 1 gallon of fuel per lap, tires every 4-5 track days, and brake pads every 4-5. Fluid changes when necessary. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

09-16-2022, 10:41 AM	#9
Bosse'sBoss Drives: '16 Camaro SS 6 spd manual transm. Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: RGV Texas Posts: 1,463	Thanks for sharing Guys! ZL1 (1LE) & SS1LE. Are great track cars. Congrats on your rides! __________________ '16 Camaro SS Prior cars: '14 Corvette C7 Stingray Z51 '14 Camaro ZL1 w/. Recaro seats '11 Mustang GT 5.0 w. track package '02 Porsche 911 Carrera '05 Infiniti G35 coupe sport

09-16-2022, 10:47 AM	#10
DaveC113 Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 1,860	Wow. Sounds like the ZLE costs about 2x a SLE to run on track? ...and the SLE isn't exactly cheap. __________________

09-16-2022, 01:00 AM	#2
ohsmily Drives: '19 ZL1 1LE A10 ShadowGrayMetallic Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: California Posts: 176	Ours don't come with "special" Cup 2 tires. I get just under 3 mpg in my 2019 ZLE A10. Around half a tank per 20 minute session. I get four good days out of my F1 Eagle Supercar tires (with track camber/alignment) and rotating inside/outside. What has been your experience?

09-16-2022, 06:29 AM	#6
VaporPressure Drives: '18 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: St Louis Posts: 41	Be aware that some are getting even less time from new 3Rs. My last event I corded brand new front 3Rs after 2 days. I'm usually using about 1/3 tank on a 20 min session, and almost half a tank on 30 min sessions so for me it can be multiple trips to the gas station throughout each track day. The upside is that it's a ton of fun on track and for me it has been fully capable with just a brake fluid upgrade. The last event was almost empty track all day long for 2 days so it was pretty aggressive driving all day, and I had no overheating issues or bad brake fade with the stock pads. Just a lot of rubber and gas missing at the end.

09-16-2022, 08:47 AM	#8
BROCKgoFAST Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 134	At Sebring in my ZL1 1LE I would fill up after every session and there are 8 sessions in a weekend. I probably didnt need to but wasnt taking a chance on fuel starvation or cutting a session short because I was low on gas. Tires can go quick or you can make them last depending on your driving, PSI, and aggression.

09-16-2022, 11:17 AM	#11
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 9,813	yup ive thought about getting rid of my modded ss for a zl1 1le and then i hear stories like that and im like ooof not only is the car more expensive but brakes tires and gas are way worse on the zl1 1le...im not that rich lol __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

09-16-2022, 12:21 PM	#13
raptor5244 Drives: 2022 CT4-V Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 2,723	Now you know why Miatas and GR86s are so popular at the track. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Black - Sold 2013 Camaro SS 1LE - Black - M6 - Sold 2016 Camaro SS - Mosaic Black - A8 - Sold 2017 C7 Stingray - M7 Coupe - Sold 2019 C7 Grand Sport M7 Vert - Sold 2021 Camaro ZL1 - Black - A10 - Sold 2019 Tesla Model 3 2022 CT4-V Blackwing - M6

09-16-2022, 12:33 PM	#14
AZIROC Drives: '86 IROC-Z '18 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Arizona Posts: 731	Ehh.. I guess I just always took it as part of playing the game having a track car. I know I'll need new tires after 3x 4-20 min sessions. I know I'll need an oil change around the same time. I bring an extra 5 gals of gas just incase (gas light usually some on near the end of the 4th session).

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