Mix 100 with 91 octane or use a fuel accelerator?

[DrkPhx]

Originally Posted by Al C.

100 octane is not that much here.. It would be cheaper/easier if I go that route.. Just wanted to see what Torco is all about.. I've used VP before, and pump100 never Torco..

Same here. I used to mix 100 with 93 for my previous car. For those with access to 100 octane at the pump, I would call the station and ask these questions;

- What brand race fuel is currently in the pump?
There was a Sunoco sticker on the pump at my local station, but I found out Renegade fuel was actually in the pump when I asked.

- Is it unleaded?
Most will have both leaded and unleaded at the pump; but don't assume it's unleaded. Ask to confirm. Leaded gas is NOT good for any new car and will ruin 02's very quickly among other potential issues.

- What is the Motor Octane of the gas?
This is the most important octane rating for any fuel. The higher, the better and more resistant to detonation (important when running a boosted motor in hot ambient temps). Each brand is different so that's why it's important to know the fuel brand. Most stations won't have the fuel specs on hand, but you can find out on the racing fuel company's website.

There are 3 octanes rating which is confusing; Pump or Formula, Motor and Research. Formula is the number displayed on the pump which is Motor + Research /2 and is usually higher than Motor. It's not that critical at stock hp levels; but a fuel with a higher Motor Octane will require less mixing to achieve the desired octane so you can save some money.

Sorry for the long post.

[Skylane765]

Originally Posted by Al C.

100 octane is not that much here.. It would be cheaper/easier if I go that route.. Just wanted to see what Torco is all about.. I've used VP before, and pump100 never Torco..

Check the price, it all depends on when you buy it. Where do you get VP and how much?

100 is about $3 a gal more so if you figure that. 100 is 1/2 the price of Torco.

I have all the 100 LL I want, but I think that would not work.

[Skylane765]

Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

No, TeD Jannetty ran some test with the Roto-fab, 5% OD, and 10% OD pulleys and found that ~10.4psi boost was all the ZL1 stock tune could handle on 93 octane before KR. This won't work as the 10% OD and CAI make about 12psi. Now, when testing using Torco, bringing octane up to 98, you could run the Roto-fab CAI and 10% OD without tuning and without the knock retard. It scaled through all the fuel maps without a hitch and A/F ratio was fine.

I do not remember, but can we run the CAI and 5% at 91 with not tune? I bought the 5% he used for the test.

[Al C.]

Originally Posted by Skylane765

Check the price, it all depends on when you buy it. Where do you get VP and how much?

100 is about $3 a gal more so if you figure that. 100 is 1/2 the price of Torco.

I have all the 100 LL I want, but I think that would not work.

6.99gal for 100/ Rocket Brand Racing Fuel.

They sell VP at the pump at some locations, not 100% sure of the price. They sell it when you get closer to Lake Mead..

[Skylane765]

Originally Posted by Al C.

6.99gal for 100/ Rocket Brand Racing Fuel.

They sell VP at the pump at some locations, not 100% sure of the price. They sell it when you get closer to Lake Mead..

So $28 f 100 to get 93 What $ for Torco to get 93?

[Skylane765]

4 g 100 at $7.= $28 14 g 91 at $4 = $56. Total $84.

18 g 91. At $4 =$72. $15 Torco. Total $87

I think it would be about the same if not lower if Torco in bulk.

[Al C.]

Originally Posted by Skylane765

4 g 100 at $7.= $28 14 g 91 at $4 = $56. Total $84.

18 g 91. At $4 =$72. $15 Torco. Total $87

I think it would be about the same if not lower if Torco in bulk.

No local retailers for Torco, I have to order it out of state. If it were $15 for 32oz local buy, then I'd do it. +Shipping costs.... If Totco was hands down better than blending then is spend the extra $$.. That's why I'm asking around.

[Skylane765]

Originally Posted by Al C.

No local retailers for Torco, I have to order it out of state. If it were $15 for 32oz local buy, then I'd do it. +Shipping costs.... If Totco was hands down better than blending then is spend the extra $$.. That's why I'm asking around.

You do not need 32oz for 91 to 93 with 18 g. It is less

Yes I understand on shipping, but you also have to drive to a gas station.

[69NMYSS]

Originally Posted by KKreme15

Have you been on a dyno? I thought they said the cai + the pulley wouldn't work?

See link below

Originally Posted by Skylane765

Check the price, it all depends on when you buy it. Where do you get VP and how much?

100 is about $3 a gal more so if you figure that. 100 is 1/2 the price of Torco.

I have all the 100 LL I want, but I think that would not work.

I buy 5 gallons of Torco for $275 delivered. Use 32oz per 15 gallons of 91 octane to boost to 98+. So it cost about 0.92 cents to make one gallon of 91 octane into 98 with Torco, which equates to about $4.50/gallon of 98 octane (fuel + Torco) in Cali right now. How much is the 100 octane at pump?

Originally Posted by Skylane765

I do not remember, but can we run the CAI and 5% at 91 with not tune? I bought the 5% he used for the test.

Here's the link, he used the 10% and 5%

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...light=JRE+tune

[69NMYSS]

Originally Posted by Al C.

No local retailers for Torco, I have to order it out of state. If it were $15 for 32oz local buy, then I'd do it. +Shipping costs.... If Totco was hands down better than blending then is spend the extra $$.. That's why I'm asking around.

See my above post, it's $13.75 per 32oz when purchased in 5 gallon drum. That is shipped.

[Al C.]

Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

See my above post, it's $13.75 per 32oz when purchased in 5 gallon drum. That is shipped.

That's do able. Through Torco website?

[Skylane765]

Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

See link below



I buy 5 gallons of Torco for $275 delivered. Use 32oz per 15 gallons of 91 octane to boost to 98+. So it cost about 0.92 cents to make one gallon of 91 octane into 98 with Torco, which equates to about $4.50/gallon of 98 octane (fuel + Torco) in Cali right now. How much is the 100 octane at pump?



Here's the link, he used the 10% and 5%

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...light=JRE+tune

Thanks.

[69NMYSS]

Originally Posted by Al C.

That's do able. Through Torco website?

PM sent

[Skylane765]

Originally Posted by Al C.

That's do able. Through Torco website?

Where do we buy it at that price?