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LCPLPunk · 11-20-2019, 07:47 PM

Mean, one thing I noticed is that the two guys that don't like the stall also don't have 3.91's...yet you will, right?

MeanV8 · 11-20-2019, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LCPLPunk

Mean, one thing I noticed is that the two guys that don't like the stall also don't have 3.91's...yet you will, right?

The 3.91's will go in at the same time as the Cam. If I don't like the stock Converter I can always add it at anytime. That way I can answer a lot of questions from my own experience.

Dan

LCPLPunk · 11-21-2019, 05:24 AM

In my opinion, you'll probably like the setup as it is. I"ve heard the SS1 cam is pretty wicked by itself and will be great with the 3.91's, BUT...to me it's like making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and only putting the jelly on. Ya, it tastes pretty good and I'm happy with it, but you are missing out so much by not putting the peanut butter on.

MeanV8 · 11-21-2019, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LCPLPunk

In my opinion, you'll probably like the setup as it is. I"ve heard the SS1 cam is pretty wicked by itself and will be great with the 3.91's, BUT...to me it's like making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and only putting the jelly on. Ya, it tastes pretty good and I'm happy with it, but you are missing out so much by not putting the peanut butter on.

Unless you are Allergic to Peanut Butter!

Dan

StingrayblueSS · 11-21-2019, 10:37 PM

So does the converter just raise rpms at launch or in between shifts also.

2010reddevil · 11-21-2019, 11:42 PM

Depends on the stall. If it's really loose and flashes high enough, the rpm drop will be minimal. If it's pretty tight and not that high, the rpm drop will still be the same, it just gets the rpms up higher on launch.

Chris49066SS · 11-22-2019, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by StingrayblueSS

So does the converter just raise rpms at launch or in between shifts also.

Heres what a 4k stall converter and 3.91 can do, with a tune from GPI

It flashes into the powerband quickly and stays there. Will be going with a 5800~6000 stall through a TH400 next...and yes I will still drive it on the street

InFiD3ViL · 11-22-2019, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

Heres what a 4k stall converter and 3.91 can do, with a tune from GPI

It flashes into the powerband quickly and stays there. Will be going with a 5800~6000 stall through a TH400 next...and yes I will still drive it on the street

Were you using brakes at all there to load the stall or was that all throttle?

This is where I get confused. At low throttle, say just going through a parking lot or wanting to slowly pull into traffic from a stop, will I have forward movement at 1500 rpm? Or do I have to hit near the rated stall number to begin moving? Or is that only under WOT conditions?

Sorry, I admit to being ignorant about stall converter functionality. I am just trying to understand how these work in a daily driving type situation. My lack of understanding is how this behaves at part/light throttle conditions.

IKILLEDSUPERMAN_ZL1 · 11-22-2019, 11:56 AM

At part throttle and low speeds my car still drives almost like stock. I had my tune set up that way. But at any aggressive throttle or WOT yes it flashes up to 3500 just like in that video from Chris49066SS. I love the new modern converters and autos. You get the best of both worlds. With the right TUNE!!

LCPLPunk · 11-22-2019, 12:47 PM

Agreed, mine doesn't take much more throttle than it used to!

Chris49066SS · 11-22-2019, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

Were you using brakes at all there to load the stall or was that all throttle?

This is where I get confused. At low throttle, say just going through a parking lot or wanting to slowly pull into traffic from a stop, will I have forward movement at 1500 rpm? Or do I have to hit near the rated stall number to begin moving? Or is that only under WOT conditions?

Sorry, I admit to being ignorant about stall converter functionality. I am just trying to understand how these work in a daily driving type situation. My lack of understanding is how this behaves at part/light throttle conditions.

I held on to the brake pedal for a brief moment until the RPMs were at 1500 and then I let it rip. It was just a gentle depress of the gas though to get the RPMs off idle. I think I will get another video this weekend probably tomorrow and do a little bit of realistic driving conditions for you, that way you can see exactly what the RPMs are doing

Aqua Blue RS/SS · 11-22-2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris49066SS

I held on to the brake pedal for a brief moment until the RPMs were at 1500 and then I let it rip. It was just a gentle depress of the gas though to get the RPMs off idle. I think I will get another video this weekend probably tomorrow and do a little bit of realistic driving conditions for you, that way you can see exactly what the RPMs are doing

That would be helpful to me if you did. Im trying to decide what I want to do with cams, whether I want to just go with an SS1 and avoid it all together or if i want to go bigger and run a stall.

LCPLPunk · 11-22-2019, 04:11 PM

So...speaking as someone who was fearful of the stall...DON'T BE! I wished I had put it in WAAAAY WAAAAY back. To me, it's a more impactful mod than the FBOs and 3.91s. To give some idea, the 3.91s IMO help alot while at speed, the FBOs help to pull more all around, and the converter helps from a dig AND significantly reduces the RPM drop between shifts so you continue to stay near/in the powerband.

IKILLEDSUPERMAN_ZL1 · 11-22-2019, 04:49 PM

I think any L99 car even with a stock cam needs a stall before any mod! It helps get the car off the line and into the power band so much quicker.

11-20-2019, 07:47 PM	#43
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	Mean, one thing I noticed is that the two guys that don't like the stall also don't have 3.91's...yet you will, right? __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

11-21-2019, 11:42 PM	#48
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	Depends on the stall. If it's really loose and flashes high enough, the rpm drop will be minimal. If it's pretty tight and not that high, the rpm drop will still be the same, it just gets the rpms up higher on launch. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

11-22-2019, 11:56 AM	#51
IKILLEDSUPERMAN_ZL1 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Wichita,KS Posts: 603	At part throttle and low speeds my car still drives almost like stock. I had my tune set up that way. But at any aggressive throttle or WOT yes it flashes up to 3500 just like in that video from Chris49066SS. I love the new modern converters and autos. You get the best of both worlds. With the right TUNE!! __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS, 6.0 iron block forged bottom end, Dart heads, BTR intake, Huron twin turbo kit, Summit stage 3 twin turbo cam, Circle D stage 4 6L90, 3800 FTI converter. BMR suspension, Viking coil overs, Fore triple pump fuel system.

11-22-2019, 12:47 PM	#52
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	Agreed, mine doesn't take much more throttle than it used to! __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

11-22-2019, 04:11 PM	#55
LCPLPunk USA-1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Near DC Posts: 1,893 View My Garage	So...speaking as someone who was fearful of the stall...DON'T BE! I wished I had put it in WAAAAY WAAAAY back. To me, it's a more impactful mod than the FBOs and 3.91s. To give some idea, the 3.91s IMO help alot while at speed, the FBOs help to pull more all around, and the converter helps from a dig AND significantly reduces the RPM drop between shifts so you continue to stay near/in the powerband. __________________ "A Camaro in the garage is safe, but that's not what Camaros are built for..." R2C CAI / Apex Scoop / VMAX Ported TB / Speed Engineering LTHs / X-pipe / GPI port/rod-mod intake manifold / Circle D 3200 278mm Converter / 3.91 gears / DynoSteve tuned / 1LE Shocks/Struts/Toe Links / ZL1 Rear Sway Bar / Z/28 Trailing arms / Prothane Radius Arm & Subframe Bushings / BMR UCA Bracket, Steering rack bushing / B&M Tranny Cooler / RX Catch Can / Jannetty Tranny Dipstick / 2012+ Heater Hose / 2013+ Rearview Mirror / Fuel rail flip / Drake shifter / Oil Cooler Delete

11-21-2019, 10:37 PM	#47
StingrayblueSS Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Indiana Posts: 901	So does the converter just raise rpms at launch or in between shifts also.

11-22-2019, 04:49 PM	#56
IKILLEDSUPERMAN_ZL1 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Wichita,KS Posts: 603	I think any L99 car even with a stock cam needs a stall before any mod! It helps get the car off the line and into the power band so much quicker. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS, 6.0 iron block forged bottom end, Dart heads, BTR intake, Huron twin turbo kit, Summit stage 3 twin turbo cam, Circle D stage 4 6L90, 3800 FTI converter. BMR suspension, Viking coil overs, Fore triple pump fuel system.