Header rubbing steering shaft poll

EMTNLSS · 05-13-2018, 03:19 PM

I'm debating on if I want to get Kooks or Texas Speed 1 7/8" or 2" headers and want to know who has rubbing with any of these options even with the steering shaft bolt replaced. I probably don't need the 2" as the most I ever plan on doing is a smaller cam down the road but i'm just curious who has the rubbing issue.

SSLandon · 05-13-2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EMTNLSS

I'm debating on if I want to get Kooks or Texas Speed 1 7/8" or 2" headers and want to know who has rubbing with any of these options even with the steering shaft bolt replaced. I probably don't need the 2" as the most I ever plan on doing is a smaller cam down the road but i'm just curious who has the rubbing issue.

Wish i had an answer for you now but I did just order texas speed 1 7/8" headers yesterday hearing that it shouldn't rub as much as the 2" if not any. Price wise i was able to get the TSP Headers with connection pipes for $564 Free shipping from juiced motorsports. I also wanted to go with Kooks but texas speed price is hard to compare. Also several people recommended with texas speed to get boot covers for your plugs so they dont melt from touching. Good Luck

JFM-jr · 05-13-2018, 08:53 PM

ARH 1 7/8th no rubbing

L78toLT1 · 05-14-2018, 06:25 AM

Kooks 1 7/8. No rubbing and tons of clearance with the oem bolt

Ichabod · 05-14-2018, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by L78toLT1

Kooks 1 7/8. No rubbing and tons of clearance with the oem bolt

X2. There’s a ton of room between the shaft and the tubes with the kooks setup.

chrest · 05-14-2018, 10:51 AM

i replaced the bolt and no rub.

L78toLT1 · 05-14-2018, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichabod

X2. There’s a ton of room between the shaft and the tubes with the kooks setup.

There's plenty of clearance everywhere with kooks 1 7/8 long tubes. I didn't have to relocate or otherwise mess with the wiring harness on the right side either

oldman · 05-14-2018, 11:20 AM

my OEM bolt has a small head and it barely sticks out of the backside's weld on nut. I don't know how there is a "smaller bolt" made. please send me some info on it?

L78toLT1 · 05-14-2018, 11:26 AM

Hey EMTNLSS, I believe a similar poll for post header exhaust leaks would be of interest to members. Even the slightest leak will trigger a CEL if the O2 sensor sees it. Lots of guys have given up on getting a 100% seal at this connection and have welded the connection between their headers and cat/connection pipe. I would submit the poll myself if I was tech savvy enough to do so.
I installed Kooks 1 7/8 long tubes. I aligned my headers and cats perfectly before torqueing the ball and socket clamp to the Kooks recommended value. I started getting intermittent CELs and upon further investigation, noted some very slight soot marks at on the headers adjacent to the clamping bolt on the ball/socket clamp. It should be noted that this leak is so slight, you cannot detect it with the car on a lift, listening with an improvised stethoscope (heater hose). The leak is that small, but it is enough to cause CELs on these cars.

EMTNLSS · 05-14-2018, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SSLandon

Wish i had an answer for you now but I did just order texas speed 1 7/8" headers yesterday hearing that it shouldn't rub as much as the 2" if not any. Price wise i was able to get the TSP Headers with connection pipes for $564 Free shipping from juiced motorsports. I also wanted to go with Kooks but texas speed price is hard to compare. Also several people recommended with texas speed to get boot covers for your plugs so they dont melt from touching. Good Luck

Yea I think i'll probably go with the 1 7/8" TSP ones also for the same reasons. Fitment should be better with the 1 7/8" and I can buy the headers and HPTuners for the same price as just the Kooks.

FIFTY017 · 05-14-2018, 07:06 PM

I literally just got the new bolt from russell at texas speed 2 wks ago. the quickest fix for the lower bolt replacement. been dealing with this for over 8mths after having TSP headers installed. 25 cent bolt for the win!!!!!

i posted pics on my IG if yall wanna see. @FIFTY017

meilmarc · 05-14-2018, 09:21 PM

Texas speed 1 7/8 no rub

sav03cobra · 05-14-2018, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FIFTY017

I literally just got the new bolt from russell at texas speed 2 wks ago. the quickest fix for the lower bolt replacement. been dealing with this for over 8mths after having TSP headers installed. 25 cent bolt for the win!!!!!

i posted pics on my IG if yall wanna see. @FIFTY017

Did you have the 2"?

JCunningham · 05-15-2018, 10:19 AM

ARH 1 7/8" no rubing

View Poll Results: Headers rubbing on steering shaft?
Kooks 1 7/8" Yes	2	3.92%
Kooks 1 7/8" No	12	23.53%
Kooks 2" Yes	2	3.92%
Kooks 2" No	5	9.80%
Texas Speed 1 7/8" Yes	13	25.49%
Texas Speed 1 7/8" No	5	9.80%
Texas Speed 2" Yes	8	15.69%
Texas Speed 2" No	4	7.84%
Voters: 51. You may not vote on this poll

05-13-2018, 03:19 PM	#1
EMTNLSS Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Layton, UT Posts: 498	Header rubbing steering shaft poll I'm debating on if I want to get Kooks or Texas Speed 1 7/8" or 2" headers and want to know who has rubbing with any of these options even with the steering shaft bolt replaced. I probably don't need the 2" as the most I ever plan on doing is a smaller cam down the road but i'm just curious who has the rubbing issue. __________________ 2SS Hyper Blue Metallic \| A8 \| Jet Black Interior \| NPP Exhaust Current Mods: Catch Can \| aFe Lowering Springs \| GM 2nd Gen Splitter \| Hotchkis Sway Bars \| MRR FS02 Wheels \| Flowmaster Exhaust \| Dark Tail Lights \| Diode Dynamics Sidemarkers \| Roto Fab \| Solar TB \| PRAY Ported IM \| BMR \| PRAY Tune Upcoming Mods:

05-13-2018, 08:53 PM	#3
JFM-jr Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Suffolk Long Island Posts: 954	ARH 1 7/8th no rubbing __________________ 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS A8,NPP,Moonroof Pray ported factory intake manifold Ported TB Rotofab ARH 1 7/8 longtubes hi flow cats AFM deleted E85 11.0@124.9 11.65@118.8 pump gas,stock tune/exhaust New combo: Pray Performance Heads/cam MSD intake manifold and Circle D 3C 554/491 on E85 all work & tuning done by Pray

05-14-2018, 06:25 AM	#4
L78toLT1 Drives: Hyper Blue 2016 2SS 6M Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: North Ga Posts: 1,787	Kooks 1 7/8. No rubbing and tons of clearance with the oem bolt __________________ Baby Blue 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS/6m/MRC/NPP/Silver Rally stripes/ZL1 wheels & brakes/GForce DS and axles/ZLE Cradle Bushings/FE4 ARB front & rear/SEMA Grill/Rotofab dry/95mm TB/Magnuson 2300/Full LT4 fuel system/JMS boost-a-pump/E85 Sensor/Ported CID heads from LME/Cammotion PD cam/Thompson Motorsports forged shortblock/catted Kooks 1 7/8 headers /JRE remote tuned

05-14-2018, 10:51 AM	#6
chrest Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Portland/Vancouver Posts: 410	i replaced the bolt and no rub. __________________ 2017 NGM 2SS NPP M6 MRC Vortech SC, 2" TSP LT No Cats, Borla X, Eibach, Hurst shifter 603hp/547tq

05-14-2018, 11:20 AM	#8
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,322	my OEM bolt has a small head and it barely sticks out of the backside's weld on nut. I don't know how there is a "smaller bolt" made. please send me some info on it? __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

05-14-2018, 11:26 AM	#9
L78toLT1 Drives: Hyper Blue 2016 2SS 6M Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: North Ga Posts: 1,787	Hey EMTNLSS, I believe a similar poll for post header exhaust leaks would be of interest to members. Even the slightest leak will trigger a CEL if the O2 sensor sees it. Lots of guys have given up on getting a 100% seal at this connection and have welded the connection between their headers and cat/connection pipe. I would submit the poll myself if I was tech savvy enough to do so. I installed Kooks 1 7/8 long tubes. I aligned my headers and cats perfectly before torqueing the ball and socket clamp to the Kooks recommended value. I started getting intermittent CELs and upon further investigation, noted some very slight soot marks at on the headers adjacent to the clamping bolt on the ball/socket clamp. It should be noted that this leak is so slight, you cannot detect it with the car on a lift, listening with an improvised stethoscope (heater hose). The leak is that small, but it is enough to cause CELs on these cars. __________________ Baby Blue 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS/6m/MRC/NPP/Silver Rally stripes/ZL1 wheels & brakes/GForce DS and axles/ZLE Cradle Bushings/FE4 ARB front & rear/SEMA Grill/Rotofab dry/95mm TB/Magnuson 2300/Full LT4 fuel system/JMS boost-a-pump/E85 Sensor/Ported CID heads from LME/Cammotion PD cam/Thompson Motorsports forged shortblock/catted Kooks 1 7/8 headers /JRE remote tuned

05-14-2018, 07:06 PM	#11
FIFTY017 Drives: 2018 Silverado Z71 TxEdition Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Tx Posts: 48	I literally just got the new bolt from russell at texas speed 2 wks ago. the quickest fix for the lower bolt replacement. been dealing with this for over 8mths after having TSP headers installed. 25 cent bolt for the win!!!!! i posted pics on my IG if yall wanna see. @FIFTY017

05-14-2018, 09:21 PM	#12
meilmarc Drives: 2016 2SS, HBM, NPP, Sun Roof Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 87	Texas speed 1 7/8 no rub

05-15-2018, 10:19 AM	#14
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	ARH 1 7/8" no rubing __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

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