Pros and Cons of Snow/Alky/AEM Meth kit - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

RupertPupkin · 08-30-2020, 04:21 PM

Looking to add a meth kit. Which brand is more favorable and why?

olblue75 · 08-31-2020, 04:49 AM

Are you FI or NA?

tartagliazl1 · 08-31-2020, 05:40 AM

i bought the devils own meth system and used the aem controller. its a cleaner and simpler install,

RupertPupkin · 08-31-2020, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by olblue75

Are you FI or NA?

FI with e85

RupertPupkin · 08-31-2020, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tartagliazl1

i bought the devils own meth system and used the aem controller. its a cleaner and simpler install,

I was leaning towards AEM bc of the controller.

Pearlj10 · 08-31-2020, 09:23 AM

The AEM controller is nice. I suggest that you scrutinize the components of each kit. I’m going with the ALKY kit for that reason. The braided steel lines and brass fittings are a nice improvement over kits with plastic tubing and quick connect fittings. Although the ALKY controller is a bit archaic looking.

RupertPupkin · 08-31-2020, 10:35 AM

Really just want a system that I don’t have to dick around with, has a fail safe.

Greenhornet2 · 08-31-2020, 01:22 PM

If you want safe, stay away from Meth just tune it correctly on the E85. you can piss on the fire if you like but you will just lose power if you are simply adding meth and not tuning for it. Tune for it for gains and to run right but then if you have an issue with the meth injection, BOOM

RupertPupkin · 08-31-2020, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenhornet2

If you want safe, stay away from Meth just tune it correctly on the E85. you can piss on the fire if you like but you will just lose power if you are simply adding meth and not tuning for it. Tune for it for gains and to run right but then if you have an issue with the meth injection, BOOM

It’ll for sure get tuned. Just looking to squeeze every single thing out of the blower. On top of that I want to get a smaller pulley, so more boost= more heat.

Vegas Bound · 08-31-2020, 03:29 PM

Don't waste your money stacking meth on e85.

RupertPupkin · 08-31-2020, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Bound

Don't waste your money stacking meth on e85.

Wouldnt net anything??

bayarea408 · 08-31-2020, 05:47 PM

i think there are a few ways to use it. In your scenario you are running on the raggedy edge of what your blower can do, heat and IAT's surely can be improved. Will you gain tons? i think people see like 30 40 horse, but what you really do is change the IAT's and protect from detonation beyond what E85 does, maybe your local station has a bad batch of corn gas, im sure the methanol will help pick up where the CPU will pull timing.

All the highest HP stock block engine cars i have seen 900-1000 hp stock motor with boost are all E85 with a alky kit.

RupertPupkin · 08-31-2020, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bayarea408

i think there are a few ways to use it. In your scenario you are running on the raggedy edge of what your blower can do, heat and IAT's surely can be improved. Will you gain tons? i think people see like 30 40 horse, but what you really do is change the IAT's and protect from detonation beyond what E85 does, maybe your local station has a bad batch of corn gas, im sure the methanol will help pick up where the CPU will pull timing.

All the highest HP stock block engine cars i have seen 900-1000 hp stock motor with boost are all E85 with a alky kit.

I want to use it for more power

Vegas Bound · 08-31-2020, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RupertPupkin

Wouldnt net anything??

No, unless you are pumping meth all the time. Which is wasteful. If you kick it in at say 50% TPS, your tuner will have to pull fuel, e85, or you will run rich. Under those circumstances, if your meth pump fails, boom. Just get a good e85/premium tune and be happy.

08-30-2020, 04:21 PM	#1
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,587	Pros and Cons of Snow/Alky/AEM Meth kit Looking to add a meth kit. Which brand is more favorable and why? __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq

08-31-2020, 04:49 AM	#2
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08-31-2020, 05:40 AM	#3
tartagliazl1 Drives: 2013 zl1 vert Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Rochester, New york Posts: 949	i bought the devils own meth system and used the aem controller. its a cleaner and simpler install, __________________ 22% lower/ 2.5 upper/ 2” headers/ cat delete/ x-pipe/ 2 gallon x tank/ 100-3 pump/ fic 850/ dsx aux kit/ 103mm throttle body/ RPM 5” intake/ meth kit/ prometh lid injection/FI interchiller/ 160* stat/ ngk-7/ msd wires/ elite catch can/ tsp cam/ Che trunnions/ ported supercharger/ 1/2” lid spacer/ brick mod/BMR toe and trailing arms/ 751hp 757 tq SAE @17.3lb on a loaded dyno.

08-31-2020, 10:35 AM	#7
RupertPupkin Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: IL Posts: 1,587	Really just want a system that I don’t have to dick around with, has a fail safe. __________________ 2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402 CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq

08-31-2020, 01:22 PM	#8
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	If you want safe, stay away from Meth just tune it correctly on the E85. you can piss on the fire if you like but you will just lose power if you are simply adding meth and not tuning for it. Tune for it for gains and to run right but then if you have an issue with the meth injection, BOOM __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

08-31-2020, 09:23 AM	#6
Pearlj10 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2LT Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Az Posts: 367	The AEM controller is nice. I suggest that you scrutinize the components of each kit. I’m going with the ALKY kit for that reason. The braided steel lines and brass fittings are a nice improvement over kits with plastic tubing and quick connect fittings. Although the ALKY controller is a bit archaic looking.

08-31-2020, 03:29 PM	#10
Vegas Bound Account Suspended Drives: 2013 Sparkly Red One Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Hospitality State Posts: 2,558	Don't waste your money stacking meth on e85.

08-31-2020, 05:47 PM	#12
bayarea408 Drives: T Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: CA Posts: 803	i think there are a few ways to use it. In your scenario you are running on the raggedy edge of what your blower can do, heat and IAT's surely can be improved. Will you gain tons? i think people see like 30 40 horse, but what you really do is change the IAT's and protect from detonation beyond what E85 does, maybe your local station has a bad batch of corn gas, im sure the methanol will help pick up where the CPU will pull timing. All the highest HP stock block engine cars i have seen 900-1000 hp stock motor with boost are all E85 with a alky kit.