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07-09-2020, 06:36 PM
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Supercharging. What else?
Supercharging. What else?
Ok. Going FI this winter. Planning on ESS Tunings kit with their G3X Vortech supercharger. What I really need to know is what other changes should I make to maximize my efforts while I am there. Not trying to go crazy, so throwing the entire catalogue at it is not what I need. I have 1 7/8 headers now, should I or do I need to go with 2”? Will an aftermarket intake manifold make a difference? CN I get a manifold now without losing any of the power that I have. I know I won’t gAin any hp with it, but would it hurt. I also have a 3.54 rear diff that I would like to use, but I don’t want to install it now just to take it out after the supercharger. Anyone’s (professional) help is appreciated.
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2011 2SS/RS Convertible, Victory Red, Roto-Fab CAI, Stainless Power 1 7/8 headers, No Cats, Straight piped, Bo White TB, ZL1 CONVERSION, CDC Roll bar and some powder coating and dipping.
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07-10-2020, 06:51 AM
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     Drives: 2011 Camaro SS 6sp Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Drivers Seat
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I wouldnt waste money on an intake manifold if you’re looking to make under 1000 hp. Keep the 1 7/8, no point in going 2inch now. I see you dont have a cam, I’d get the BTR ls3 centri cam or talk to Jannetty about thiers.
Which blower are you getting? The G3X is a really nice piece, but its not made by Vortech. ESS offers these head units in their kits: (in order of power capability, my opinion) Vortech V3Si ESS G3 Vortech YSi. (Requires oil feed/return) ESS G3X ESS G4X (coming soon) Vortech YSi-b (Requires oil feed/return) I would highly suggest a proper triple fuel pump setup with a return line, a good adjustable fpr, good injectors and a knowledgeable tuner.
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TMS Dart 427 FED M311s, ESS Tuning G4 Blower, DSX Triple FP Assembly, DSX FF, FIC1300, Mcleod RXT 1200HD, Edlebrock Pro Flo XT 1158whp 1017wtq. 2010 CTS-V A6 - "Stock" SOLD 630whp 658wtq 2024 F-150 RCSB 5.0 4x4 waiting for tunes... |
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07-10-2020, 07:42 AM
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Also don't skimp on the a good oil pump and if you do a triple pump I would suggest changing them to a PTFE lines (just in case you wanted to run race gas) It is also a good idea just to do it once. Besides what was mentioned I think you will be good. Overall you'll probably might need suspension work
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TSP Stage 2 Boosted Cam 227/235 at 114 LSA Fore Innovation Triple pump staged (Walbro 342 primary and 2x Walbro 450 secondaries) Procharger D1x with a 3.85 pulley ID1050x Injectors Flex Fuel Sensor Monster LT1 Twin Disk Clutch Holley Sniper Efi Intake Manifold NW 103mm Boosted TB 747rwhp at 12psi on E85 |
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07-10-2020, 08:35 AM
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 Drives: 2014 SS Convertible Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Michigan
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Suspension and drivetrain. I put an LSA on and just had to upgrade both axles to 1LE models.
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Engine: LSA Conversion, Ported Heads, 1 7/8 headers, VMS 2.5 Cam, Roto Fab intake, ADM Scoop. BMR engine mounts, 3.91
628/525 Suspension: Koni orange, (BMR everything) 1" drop springs, toe rods, trailer arms, non adjustable LCR, FE4 sway bars, sub frame connectors, delrin sub frame bushing and upper control arm bushings. Front bushings. |
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07-10-2020, 09:36 AM
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Drives: 2014 Camaro SS 1Le Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: IL
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It’s a slippery slope once you go FI... Going down the rabbit hole is no joke. LOL. I was only planning on doing a blower with my cam setup, then It went o fuel upgrade/ twin disc clutch/ suspension/ body styling etc etc.
Skip the intake, stick with the 1 7/8, and get a fuel system. You’ll always want more. FI Cam Fuel Suspension Trans
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2014 SS 1LE Money Pit/ Forged 402
CAM 22X/24X, .619/.617, 113 LSA/ LS9 Heads FIC 1200cc/DSX Aux Pump//McLeod RXT Clutch 730whp: 630Trq |
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07-10-2020, 10:20 AM
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Drives: Car Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Alabama
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Aluminum drive shaft. Won’t increase HP but it will greatly, insanely, reduce a whole lot of drag.
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07-10-2020, 10:55 AM
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I originally thought I will leave it with stock cam , stock fuel pump and then I started doing research and went insanely crazy. I ended up getting a complete cam kit, twin disk clutch, complete fuel system (Fore Innovation fuel system) bigger injectors, Flex fuel kit and intake manifold with upgraded fuel rails. I also think I need to get rear suspension upgrades, drag radials and I am thinking that I would need to upgrade my NPP exhaust to a full 3in exhaust. (Thinking of getting Corsa Exhaust)
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TSP Stage 2 Boosted Cam 227/235 at 114 LSA Fore Innovation Triple pump staged (Walbro 342 primary and 2x Walbro 450 secondaries) Procharger D1x with a 3.85 pulley ID1050x Injectors Flex Fuel Sensor Monster LT1 Twin Disk Clutch Holley Sniper Efi Intake Manifold NW 103mm Boosted TB 747rwhp at 12psi on E85 |
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07-10-2020, 12:10 PM
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Drives: 2010 2SS, 2017 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Jan 2007
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I went with an Edelbrock E-Force S/C. I didn't need to have outrageous HP. See mods in my sig below.
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2010 2SS/RS Victory Red, MN6, 1-7/8 Kooks LT Headers, SLP Axle Back, Edelbrock E-Force S/C, ZL1 Fuel Pump, 72# Injectors, JRE fuel rail upgrade, Roto-Fab CAI, Elite Catch Can, Billet Hurst Shifter, DSS 1000HP axles, Spohn Trailing Arms, Toe Links, Lower Control Arms. Chrome American Racing Torq-Thrust wheels. 546/rwhp & 522/rwtq & 10.9# boost Tune by Jeremy Formato.
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07-10-2020, 01:29 PM
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Drives: 2010 2SS LS3, 2013 duramax Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Dover, De
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How fast do you want to go? How much money do you have to spend?
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ECS Ysi-B, cam, Tsp 2" longtubes, Squash dual pumps, Id1300s, meth, 4L80e, FTI 3600, ZL1 3.73 diff, BMR suspension, 15" conversion, weld rts mt 275 et street R. 9.6@147mph
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07-12-2020, 10:41 AM
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Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ
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E85 if its available in your area.
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2014 ZL1 M6: Roto Fab Intake, LS3 TB, Long Tube Headers, NPP, Mild 2 Wild, JMS BAP, SMG aux pump, ID 1050X Injectors, DSX Flex Fuel Sensor, 10.5" DSX Lower Pulley, Killer Chiller, Tuned by Ted at JRE, Pedders XA Extreme coilovers, Mickey Thompson Street S/S on Weld S71s
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07-12-2020, 11:42 AM
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Drives: 2013 ss2 vert l99 Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: South florida
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I'll 3rd the slippery slope.. but to answer your question.. get a cam and upgrade your fuel system
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07-12-2020, 08:20 PM
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Don’t need insane power. Just want fun on street and know that I can take just about any vehicle around. I know someone is always faster,and I don’t street much, but just want to know I can.
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2011 2SS/RS Convertible, Victory Red, Roto-Fab CAI, Stainless Power 1 7/8 headers, No Cats, Straight piped, Bo White TB, ZL1 CONVERSION, CDC Roll bar and some powder coating and dipping.
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07-12-2020, 08:21 PM
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2011 2SS/RS Convertible, Victory Red, Roto-Fab CAI, Stainless Power 1 7/8 headers, No Cats, Straight piped, Bo White TB, ZL1 CONVERSION, CDC Roll bar and some powder coating and dipping.
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07-12-2020, 08:32 PM
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I have spoken at length with Jannetty, to the point that I was going to take the car to them and drop it off. Their quote was about $22k, supercharger, cam, convertor. That was a bit much and off putting. I kept trying to figure out what I really needed/wanted. I have come to the conclusion that I can get the same amount of power from the supercharger @5-7psi as I can with a GPI 3VVT camshaft kit. The s/c would be easier for me because I would not have to go into the engine. If this proves not to be enough, then I am willing to go in the engine ( or have someone do it for me)
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2011 2SS/RS Convertible, Victory Red, Roto-Fab CAI, Stainless Power 1 7/8 headers, No Cats, Straight piped, Bo White TB, ZL1 CONVERSION, CDC Roll bar and some powder coating and dipping.
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