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Old 06-25-2021, 10:54 AM   #29
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The accelerator tap (Performance shift mode) works in both Sport and Track modes. I prefer this mode for roll racing as I find it faster that holding the paddle for 3 seconds. Also both methods work on the A8 as well.
Same here - yet I do like the heads up display Red\Yellow\Green lights telling you when to shift
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Old 04-22-2022, 09:12 PM   #30
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guys this still isn't working for me I read through this, went out and made sure to have 0% throttle/acceleration when in manual mode and holding the downshift.

Performance shift mode works.

Is there some kind of setting I'm missing that might "lock" manual shift mode?

I'm confused and a little disappointed as activating manual mode in my old 5th gen or even more recent 392 was so much easier. any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. For reference, it's the 10spd ZL1, 2019.
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Old 04-22-2022, 09:49 PM   #31
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guys this still isn't working for me I read through this, went out and made sure to have 0% throttle/acceleration when in manual mode and holding the downshift.

Performance shift mode works.

Is there some kind of setting I'm missing that might "lock" manual shift mode?

I'm confused and a little disappointed as activating manual mode in my old 5th gen or even more recent 392 was so much easier. any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. For reference, it's the 10spd ZL1, 2019.
For the record, I can only trigger this downshift-to-lowest action on my A8 by tapping either paddle first, then holding the downshift one. Simply pushing the shift knob over to manual mode and then holding the paddle down does nothing.

Not that it matters too much, because I use the skinny pedal tap-to-floor method for performance shift mode almost every time anyway.
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Old 04-22-2022, 10:21 PM   #32
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For the record, I can only trigger this downshift-to-lowest action on my A8 by tapping either paddle first, then holding the downshift one. Simply pushing the shift knob over to manual mode and then holding the paddle down does nothing.

Not that it matters too much, because I use the skinny pedal tap-to-floor method for performance shift mode almost every time anyway.
Do you find that performance shift mode is better than trying to do it yourself? I just feel disappointed that I can't use that paddles. And yes, I've tried the quick tap of either one and then holding downshift. I've never been able to get the different gears to show up on screen. I just see D even in performance shift mode.
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Old 04-22-2022, 10:35 PM   #33
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works every time in my car.... and i Have to say this because its always said to me. its um ,in the owners manual. lol

I always enjoy when people find out months later about features that are listed in the owners manual
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Old 04-22-2022, 10:40 PM   #34
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Do you find that performance shift mode is better than trying to do it yourself? I just feel disappointed that I can't use that paddles. And yes, I've tried the quick tap of either one and then holding downshift. I've never been able to get the different gears to show up on screen. I just see D even in performance shift mode.
My screen only shows M1, M2 etc. in manual mode, and I think that is expected, since performance shift mode is just a different automatic shift algorithm with an initial downshift to the lowest sensible gear.

The paddles can be used, it's just that you need to touch them first before you can downshift to lowest, at least this is how it works on my A8. I'm not too keen on the paddles due to the software's reaction time. It would be cool to have "inverted" paddle switches that activate on release (start of switch travel) instead of when the paddle tops out, cutting about 0.2-0.3 seconds off this reaction time, I'm sure the feel would be much improved.

On that note, I'd also love to see gears all the time, even in D, I have no idea why cluster engineers decided to only display this information in M mode, or why they couldn't at least make it an option (say, only available in sport and track modes).
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Old 04-22-2022, 10:47 PM   #35
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Stabbing on/off the gas pedal does the same. Puts the car into performance shift indicated on the dash and is ready to boogie.
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Old 04-22-2022, 11:03 PM   #36
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works every time in my car.... and i Have to say this because its always said to me. its um ,in the owners manual. lol

I always enjoy when people find out months later about features that are listed in the owners manual
So I just checked out the manual real quick and it says that I have to shift it over into DSC & after I do that I must push up or down on the shifter.

After I do that the car should be in manual mode and I can upshift or downshift using just the shifter?

However it then says that I while in DSC I can put it into the paddle shifting mode, hold long for the lowest gear etc.

It looks like the step I may have been missing is the pushing of the shifter forward or backward AFTER pushing it over to the left.

Does that make sense or am I still missing something?

It's late tonight, I'll probably try tomorrow after I fix the tire pressure and before I wash.

Car was a little all over the road tonight at 100ish I'm chalking that up to uneven tire pressure and not necessarily the most even flat road.
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Old 04-23-2022, 07:41 AM   #37
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guys this still isn't working for me I read through this, went out and made sure to have 0% throttle/acceleration when in manual mode and holding the downshift.

Performance shift mode works.

Is there some kind of setting I'm missing that might "lock" manual shift mode?

I'm confused and a little disappointed as activating manual mode in my old 5th gen or even more recent 392 was so much easier. any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. For reference, it's the 10spd ZL1, 2019.
It's been a while since I used this method but make sure you're in track mode. I believe that mode will only activate this feature and either in D or manual mode. 3 seconds is a long time but be patient. Don't have cruise activated. 0% throttle means 0% throttle.

I only use the throttle blip to get into performance mode and let the car shift for me.... since it'll shift faster and better than I can and won't fall on its face if I don't shift at the correct time. And performance mode activates way faster.
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Old 04-23-2022, 07:45 AM   #38
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As others said above, in Auto, give the peddle a good stab and the trans drops to the gear it wants, but if I then go WOT, it spins the tires if I'm below say ~100-120mph. Manual works better for my car.
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Old 04-23-2022, 11:15 AM   #39
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Ok, now I'm just at a loss. I did the exact steps in the owners manual to activate DSC and nothing happened. But what I did notice was that when I slapped it to the left, the light remained red with D but didn't even go red under the +/-
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Old 04-23-2022, 01:00 PM   #40
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guys this still isn't working for me I read through this, went out and made sure to have 0% throttle/acceleration when in manual mode and holding the downshift.

Performance shift mode works.

Is there some kind of setting I'm missing that might "lock" manual shift mode?

I'm confused and a little disappointed as activating manual mode in my old 5th gen or even more recent 392 was so much easier. any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. For reference, it's the 10spd ZL1, 2019.
It won't work if the shifter is in auto mode. You have to move the shifter into the manual mode position (the left position). Then hold the left paddle down for 1 sec or so to get it to downshift to the lower gear - it should work every time (it does for me in my '21 ZL1). Throttle position doesn't matter. I tried it twice today at 1/4 and 1/3ish throttle and it still downshifted into 2nd gear at 40 mph from 6th.

And btw activating full manual mode in the 6th gen ZL1 is as easy as pie, it's as simple as moving the shift lever over into the manual position (left position). Couldn't be easier.
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Ok, now I'm just at a loss. I did the exact steps in the owners manual to activate DSC and nothing happened. But what I did notice was that when I slapped it to the left, the light remained red with D but didn't even go red under the +/-
To activate automatic performance shift you have to be in either sport or track mode. It doesn't activate in touring mode. In sport mode, a quick stab of the throttle will drop it down a few gears. It won't necessarily always go to the lowest gear possible like the left paddle hold while in manual mode.
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Old 04-23-2022, 01:27 PM   #42
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To activate automatic performance shift you have to be in either sport or track mode. It doesn't activate in touring mode. In sport mode, a quick stab of the throttle will drop it down a few gears. It won't necessarily always go to the lowest gear possible like the left paddle hold while in manual mode.
Yes I can do performance shift mode, seemingly just fine. But again, I do move the shifter to the left. When I do, I pull back on it. It should downshift, it doesn't. I try clicking the paddles. No response, whether I tap them or hold them down...it makes no difference. No response.

Sounds like this is something that should be covered under the powertrain warranty right?
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