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Old 10-06-2016, 03:25 PM   #113
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Ha this guy is getting slaughtered on Mustang6g - sounds like he is registered there but hasn't posted. Too bad it wasn't thePill. That would have been too perfect.

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I wrote a song about this incident. I'm calling it "I Can't Drive 25"

Here are the lyrics...

One foot on the brake and one on the gas, hey
I’ve had too much coffee and I’m an ass, yeah
So I tried my best illegal move
A big black and white come and crushed my groove...again

Go on and write me up for 35
Post on Facebook, spectators are still alive
Take my license, all that jive
I can't drive 25, oh no, uh

So I signed my name on number 42, hey
Yeah the judge said, "Boy, just how old are you? huh
I'm gonna throw your ass in the city joint"
Looked me in the eye, said, "You get my point?"
I say "Yeah!, Oh yeah"

Write me up for 35
Post on Youtube, spectators are still alive
Take my license, all that jive
I can't drive 25, oh yeah

25, uh

When I drive that slow, you know it's hard to steer
And I can't get my car out of first gear
Thank god for cement curbs
Huh, it took me 2 hours to get here from the burbs

Go on and write me up for 35
Post on 6g, spectators are still alive
Take my license, all that jive
I can't drive 25

No, no, no, I can't drive, (I can't drive 25)
I can't drive (I can't drive 25)
(I can't drive 25)
(I can't drive 25)

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Old 10-06-2016, 07:10 PM   #114
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At least those kiddos won't like mustangs growing up. as one of them tried to kill them.


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Old 10-07-2016, 12:45 AM   #115
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Pre 2015 mustangs didnt have rear independent suspension and handled AWFUL when going around corners with any kind of moderate speed - I know because I had a 2014 GT with 700HP. I however would never attempt that when others are around - stupid.

2015 and up mustang models are far superior to their predecessors in handling and control.

The Camaro is just a better all around car however IMO and Ive tried all the Dodges, Fords, Nissan and Chevys muscle cars.

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Old 10-07-2016, 03:53 AM   #116
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Pre 2016 mustangs didnt have rear independent suspension and handled AWFUL when going around corners with any kind of moderate speed - I know because I had a 2015 GT with 700HP. I however would never attempt that when others are around - stupid.

2016 and up mustang models are far superior to their predecessors in handling and control.

The Camaro is just a better all around car however IMO and Ive tried all the Dodges, Fords, Nissan and Chevys muscle cars.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:27 PM   #117
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Pre 2016 mustangs didnt have rear independent suspension and handled AWFUL when going around corners with any kind of moderate speed - I know because I had a 2015 GT with 700HP. I however would never attempt that when others are around - stupid.

2016 and up mustang models are far superior to their predecessors in handling and control.

The Camaro is just a better all around car however IMO and Ive tried all the Dodges, Fords, Nissan and Chevys muscle cars.
2015 Mustangs, FYI, were the first MY of the S550, and thus, IRS.

And no...the SRA Mustangs didn't handle AWFUL when going around corners, I've driven my fair share of them. Would they get unsettled when hitting a bump or uneven road at speed in a corner? Sure..most cars will.

The numerous clips of Mustangs wiping out are because they're cheap and have a lot of power for the dollar value, and people likely didn't step up slowly...IE going from a 260 HP SN95, to a 300 HP S197, then a 400+ 5.0 S197...they go right from a Focus to a Mustang.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:29 PM   #118
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2015 Mustangs, FYI, were the first MY of the S550, and thus, IRS.

And no...the SRA Mustangs didn't handle AWFUL when going around corners, I've driven my fair share of them. Would they get unsettled when hitting a bump or uneven road at speed in a corner? Sure..most cars will.

The numerous clips of Mustangs wiping out are because they're cheap and have a lot of power for the dollar value, and people likely didn't step up slowly...IE going from a 260 HP SN95, to a 300 HP S197, then a 400+ 5.0 S197...they go right from a Focus to a Mustang.
Nor did they work their way up gradually learning to apply and control the power their car puts out.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:59 PM   #119
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Pre 2016 mustangs didnt have rear independent suspension and handled AWFUL when going around corners with any kind of moderate speed - I know because I had a 2015 GT with 700HP. I however would never attempt that when others are around - stupid.

2016 and up mustang models are far superior to their predecessors in handling and control.

The Camaro is just a better all around car however IMO and Ive tried all the Dodges, Fords, Nissan and Chevys muscle cars.
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Old 10-07-2016, 02:02 PM   #120
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2015 Mustangs, FYI, were the first MY of the S550, and thus, IRS.

And no...the SRA Mustangs didn't handle AWFUL when going around corners, I've driven my fair share of them. Would they get unsettled when hitting a bump or uneven road at speed in a corner? Sure..most cars will.

The numerous clips of Mustangs wiping out are because they're cheap and have a lot of power for the dollar value, and people likely didn't step up slowly...IE going from a 260 HP SN95, to a 300 HP S197, then a 400+ 5.0 S197...they go right from a Focus to a Mustang.
It's just an inability to drive. 400+ is nothing.
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Old 10-07-2016, 02:56 PM   #121
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It's just an inability to drive. 400+ is nothing.
Well it's a factor when you're going from a 150 HP car to one with almost 300 more (in the case of a 2015 Mustang).

But yeah you're right...it's driver stupidity+inability.
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Old 10-07-2016, 05:31 PM   #122
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2015 Mustangs, FYI, were the first MY of the S550, and thus, IRS.

And no...the SRA Mustangs didn't handle AWFUL when going around corners, I've driven my fair share of them. Would they get unsettled when hitting a bump or uneven road at speed in a corner? Sure..most cars will.

The numerous clips of Mustangs wiping out are because they're cheap and have a lot of power for the dollar value, and people likely didn't step up slowly...IE going from a 260 HP SN95, to a 300 HP S197, then a 400+ 5.0 S197...they go right from a Focus to a Mustang.
yea yea..typo felony in model year. Next up spelling and grammatical errors.

The Mustang I speak of was 700HP...and I do have curved track experience. It was HP overkill, but as far as handling goes, the 2014 and earlier model GTs were using an outdated rear setup (whether stang owners admit it or not) - the new IRS was proof it needed to catch up with what everyone else already had. I grew up on Mustangs and still have a soft spot for anything Shelby.

If people dont think the newer stangs handle better, then they have no experience to compare against and are just posting out their rear. Its night and day difference. Id venture to say Ive had far more Mustangs over my lifespan than the mass majority.

Independent testing still shows that Camaros can handle better even on the new 2017s. Its not my opinion, its others far more knowledgeable than myself. Both cars have different strengths, so not meant as a pissing match on which car is better.

Ask a Mustang owner to drive a Camaro and he/she will go blind from lack of visibility - just trying to even up the insults.

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Old 10-07-2016, 06:24 PM   #123
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The Mustang I speak of was 700HP...and I do have curved track experience. It was HP overkill, but as far as handling goes, the 2015 and earlier model GTs were using an outdated rear setup (whether stang owners admit it or not) - the new IRS was proof it needed to catch up with what everyone else already had. I grew up on Mustangs and still have a soft spot for anything Shelby.

If people dont think the newer stangs handle better, then they have no experience to compare against and are just posting out their rear. Its night and day difference. Id venture to say Ive had far more Mustangs over my lifespan than the mass majority.

Independent testing still shows that Camaros can handle better even on the new 2017s. Its not my opinion, its others far more knowledgeable than myself. Both cars have different strengths, so not meant as a pissing match on which car is better.

Ask a Mustang owner to drive a Camaro and he/she will go blind from lack of visibility - just trying to even up the insults.
I think you've lost track of time, the Mustangs have had IRS since the introduction of the S550 starting with the 2015 model year. Actually, Ford offered it since back in '99.

Either way, even the solid axle S197 cars were generally seen as better performers than the IRS 5th gen camaros until the 5th gen suspension was revised.
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Old 10-08-2016, 03:38 AM   #124
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I think you've lost track of time, the Mustangs have had IRS since the introduction of the S550 starting with the 2015 model year. Actually, Ford offered it since back in '99.

Either way, even the solid axle S197 cars were generally seen as better performers than the IRS 5th gen camaros until the 5th gen suspension was revised.
Yes x2 - typo felony...meant to say 2014, not 2015. Regardless, the handling on the 5th gen was awful for a F/I setup. Never had a car fishtail as much as the 2014 GT. It was great for straight line driving, downright dangerous in curves - again we are talking 700HP, not some fresh daisy off the new car lot (at the time). It was the ultimate empty parking lot "donut" and burnout car...then again Im not in my 20s, so the thrill of that came and went fast.

The solid axle setup was the most complained about item in the Mustang forums, so Im hardly alone in that thought.

If Im doing my yearly curved track run, it will be in the better handling Camaro. Search the web for head to head comparisons - Camaro is picked every time over Mustang for the 2016-17 model years. Just relaying what I saw.

People get all testy over car comparisons....do the research yourself!

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Old 10-08-2016, 04:48 AM   #125
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Old 10-09-2016, 04:40 AM   #126
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I think you've lost track of time, the Mustangs have had IRS since the introduction of the S550 starting with the 2015 model year. Actually, Ford offered it since back in '99.

Either way, even the solid axle S197 cars were generally seen as better performers than the IRS 5th gen camaros until the 5th gen suspension was revised.
Spoken like a true politician on an opposing party.

Feel free to do the research online, they all pick the 16-17 Camaro over the Mustang in most categories. Just relaying the consensus without personal opinion. Camaro was placed in the 10 best cars in general as well.

And yes, it was a typo - 2014 - I discussed my personal experience with a previous 700HP Mustang that was nothing like an off the lot daisy.

Isnt this a Camaro forum?
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