The 2011+ Mustang Thread - Page 87

Georgie · 03-05-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Look at it this way? When you play a game of chess...do you begin using your Queen piece right at the start? Or will you send in some pawns first, and try to do as much damage as possible with your rooks and knights?

THEN...when you've exhausted your resources, you pull out a check-mate and end the game. It's the same here. You can't improve upon something that's already been improved.

ROOKS ARE AWESOME

syr74 · 03-05-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Vincent Price

Blind optimism? LOL. You must feel real confident in the mustang to have to come to a Camaro site and tell everyone how awsome it is. Do you think your going to get GT500 performance from this car for mustang gt price? LOL. Its going to be close.

I look upon it as an opportunity to educate.

As far as acceleration, of course it is ridiculous to think that the 2011 GT is going to be capable of low 12 second quarter miles like the GT500, and I never suggested the same. That said, it will be a rock solid high 12 second car that laps some tracks as fast or faster than the outgoing 2010 GT500.

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Vincent Price

You do some rpm testing on these motors? I mean I have my new 5.0 in the basement, but I havent had the time to test it yet.

I spun my 80,000 mile ls1 (a 1998 block too) to 7k dailey. But rpms are not everything.

Basics of design, an OHV engine simply cannot rev as high as an OHC piece without encountering valve float.

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Vincent Price

The whole point of the argument was that when you upgraded the ss stock parts to improved parts you get the same results for the same price.

But for 2011 you don't, since those parts come standard on the Mustang GT now. Of course, the truth is that it was a ridiculous argument in the first place but I digress.

cHaotix · 03-05-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Vincent Price

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You should probably just stop posting.

Zeus · 03-05-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost of Vincent Price

I take it you drive a mustang.

I don't own an American Car

Anyways. Dont you think its funny that ford had to upgrade the suspension of the gt to make it more competitive with the ss...with no suspension options?

They upgraded the suspension to make it superior to the SS, not competitive.

So your going to tell me that power cant overcome a weight issue? LOL. How the hell do you think the gt500 gets around?

I'm saying it will always be hindered by a weight issue... imagine how amazing the GT500 would be if it weighed what a Corvette weighs.

Ever notice the gtr is also 3900 lbs. Not saying the Camaro is anywhere near that level of handleing, but its stupid to think that power doesnt help.

GTR has AWD and a twin turbo engine which really puts out close to 550hp... along with one of the most advanced and expensive suspensions in the world. Horrible example.

Anyways buddy you can bench race away, while I actually have my car.

When did I bench race?

Yes mustang drivers are mostly tools...thats why they come here instead of going to mustang sites. They dont even get along with each other.

Yes and Camaro drivers all have Mullets and deal drugs when they aren't sleeping with their sister. Any other Stereotypes you want to bring up?

Have fun on $1000 cams alone. Your car is going to get walked mod for mod. If you ever get one, and are not just a mouth behind a keyboard.

Modding the cars is more about a person's bank account... which is why this argument is dismissed. But hey, your a N00b so you probably haven't seen it 10000 times like I have

*The_Blur* · 03-05-2010, 01:34 PM

There are more non-Camaro drivers in here than Camaro drivers.

coolman · 03-05-2010, 01:35 PM

GOOD LORD... that completely goes against your theory... as the numbers show that the Camaro is certainly more capable than the GT.. but damn near as fast as the GT500. Sadly.. both the GT and the SS are better race track runners than the much more expensive and much more powerful GT500.

You call two seconds damn near as fast. I guess you never watched racing before.

ssump29 · 03-05-2010, 01:54 PM

I see all the usual suspects are still posting and going crazy in a mustang/camaro thread. wowow lololol Everyone STFU.

coolman · 03-05-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

There are more non-Camaro drivers in here than Camaro drivers.

Well after all, the thread is about mustangs.

Funny thing here is the thread was started by a chevy guy. Look at his garage. Face it this is what makes this forum great. If the mods only let chevy guys in and kept it all business it would be just as boring as most of the mustang sites. I do like Teamshelby.com though. Those guys seem pretty nice so far, and I've learned a lot. Chevys aren't chevys without fords and ford aren't fords without chevys. It would suck to go to any race track and watch all one brand compete. That would be like watching the same football team play each other every week.

coolman · 03-05-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ssump29

I see all the usual suspects are still posting and going crazy in a mustang/camaro thread. wowow lololol Everyone STFU.

This is not a mustang VS camaro thread. It turned into one like they all do.
I hate to tell you but it takes two to tango.

Zeus · 03-05-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ssump29

I see all the usual suspects are still posting and going crazy in a mustang/camaro thread. wowow lololol Everyone STFU.

If you don't like the water get out of the pool

garagelogic · 03-05-2010, 03:13 PM

Just for the record, if I remember my facts correctly, the "track-pack" was a planned option on the 2010 Mustang GT well before the Camaro started hitting the streets. It's not like Ford said, "Hey, the Camaro SS is kicking our butts in the handling department, what can we do?" It might work that way on the streets, but if you're running a business, putting an option like that on the table takes months, if not years of planning in order to implement. It was not Ford being reactive, it was Ford being proactive.

Georgie · 03-05-2010, 04:28 PM

good lord twin turbo GT500??? wow... that is insane!

Cmicasa the Great XvX · 03-05-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew

The only reason the Camaro was quicker than the GT was the Camaros power PERIOD.

Then please explain to me how the equal weighted 114HP advantageous GT500 only beat the Camaro SS by 2 seconds. If power is your saving grace then the 114HP advantage should have it up there with the Corvettes

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The 5.0 should have no trouble putting the Mustang GT ahead on a road course.

Sounds like wishful Fanboy-ism to me. U remind me of this guy I kno named ASSRUTHERFORD...

Cmicasa the Great XvX · 03-05-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

If you think the Camaro beat the Mustang in the Lightning Lap because of its handling your an idiot.

I think the Camaro beat the Mustang because it's a

... And that's pretty much all it needed to be to beat that mutha-effin Ford Girl's car.

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coolman Guest Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PA Posts: 4,812	GOOD LORD... that completely goes against your theory... as the numbers show that the Camaro is certainly more capable than the GT.. but damn near as fast as the GT500. Sadly.. both the GT and the SS are better race track runners than the much more expensive and much more powerful GT500. You call two seconds damn near as fast. I guess you never watched racing before.

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garagelogic Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Shelby GT500 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,686 View My Garage	Just for the record, if I remember my facts correctly, the "track-pack" was a planned option on the 2010 Mustang GT well before the Camaro started hitting the streets. It's not like Ford said, "Hey, the Camaro SS is kicking our butts in the handling department, what can we do?" It might work that way on the streets, but if you're running a business, putting an option like that on the table takes months, if not years of planning in order to implement. It was not Ford being reactive, it was Ford being proactive.