Firearms Section - Page 86

blake-b · 01-05-2012, 07:26 PM

If you are a right handed shooter, shooting low and left is usually a sign of milking. That is where you are tightening your strong hand little and ring fingers as you are firing.

Mr_Draco · 01-05-2012, 08:01 PM

For a right hander, pulling to the left is also a sign that you are putting too much finger on the trigger. And putting too little finger on the trigger will cause you to pull to the right. The pull is only slight, 1-2 degrees off angle, but over 10-15 yards that could mean a few inches.

A lot of people will naturally shoot low with new handguns as they overcompensate for the expected kick and they will subconsciously pull down on the gun just as soon as they pull the trigger.

My suggestions are, practice pulling the trigger with the gun empty until you get your grip set and are comfortable with it and record yourself shooting the next time you go to the range from different angles. This way you can see what you are doing to cause the pulling. Until you see and understand what you are doing to cause the pulling you won't be able to correct it.

blake-b · 01-05-2012, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

For a right hander, pulling to the left is also a sign that you are putting too much finger on the trigger. And putting too little finger on the trigger will cause you to pull to the right. The pull is only slight, 1-2 degrees off angle, but over 10-15 yards that could mean a few inches.

A lot of people will naturally shoot low with new handguns as they overcompensate for the expected kick and they will subconsciously pull down on the gun just as soon as they pull the trigger.

My suggestions are, practice pulling the trigger with the gun empty until you get your grip set and are comfortable with it and record yourself shooting the next time you go to the range from different angles. This way you can see what you are doing to cause the pulling. Until you see and understand what you are doing to cause the pulling you won't be able to correct it.

I forgot about trigger pull... duh...

Download this target:
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=313762
That is for a right handed shooter, switch everything for a lefty.

Infern0 · 01-05-2012, 08:46 PM

Just saw the new H&K P30. Anyone have it? Looks so sweet. Kinda $$$ though.

SnoopyAce7 · 01-05-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Infern0

Just saw the new H&K P30. Anyone have it? Looks so sweet. Kinda $$$ though.

kinda looks like the walther p99, don't know how they compare though..

archtaan · 01-06-2012, 09:46 AM

Picked up my Keltec KSG shotgun yesterday. It feels and shoots great! Can't wait till they get more of these on the market.

Dznts · 01-06-2012, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archtaan

Picked up my Keltec KSG shotgun yesterday. It feels and shoots great! Can't wait till they get more of these on the market.

Man that thing is sweet

Kyle2k · 01-06-2012, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archtaan

Picked up my Keltec KSG shotgun yesterday. It feels and shoots great! Can't wait till they get more of these on the market.

So you're one of those people that got the first 250

lol, nice! Please fill me in some on my suppressor question on the previous page

Jay00f4 · 01-06-2012, 01:59 PM

Thanks for the comments I have been working on my trigger pull and getting better. I will take some pics of my next range trip.

66olds442 · 01-06-2012, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake-b

ACOGs are great unless you cannot grasp the binden aiming concept. A fellow LEO had one and loved it until he had to deal with an armed suspect at very close range. He went back to an aimpoint. I have shot both and it really depends on what distance you are shooting. An acog will never be as fast on target acqusition as a red dot under 25 yds or so. ACOGs shine at distance because of the magnification. They do ake some 1.5x and 2.0x models though. Shoot both and see which you like. Another friend went to Afghanistan for DOD purposes. I lent him a 1.5x ACOG and an aimpoint m4. He tried both on an hk416 and sent the ACOG back. I personally use an aimpoint h1 on my patrol rifle.

THIS! With a magnified sight it will typically be difficult to engage targets at close ranges.

Personally I use an EOtech with a flip to side 4X magnifier. That way I have flexibility and in a close combat situation you've got great Situational Awareness.

Brokinarrow · 01-06-2012, 08:59 PM

Watched through the entire Firefly series again this week (LOVE that show!) Anyway, noticed that Zoe's main gun of choice (a Mare's Leg) looked like it'd be a fun one to shoot. Anyone have one of these, or shot one before? Saw a vid on youtube for a JB Custom model that they said was accurate out to 150 yards, wondering if that's typical for a mare's leg or if it's just cuz it's a JB Custom. May have to snag one of these at the next gun show...

archtaan · 01-06-2012, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

Anyone have opinions on an ACOG? While I am at it- might as well ask for opinions on different companies for suppressors as well? (for 5.56)

For a 5.56 you have several options. AAC M4-2000 with blackout fast attach, Gemtech trek or Halo, Surefire FA556, SWR, Elite Iron, Yankee Hill Phantom. There are a ton of companies. For pricing, just about every dealer I have found charges retail so whatever is on the website is what you pay. Don't forget to factor in the one time $200.00 stamp.

http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=197

http://www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/5-5...4-Ruger-c9.htm

http://www.swrsuppressors.com/produc...le/specwar-556

http://www.surefire.com/RifleCarbine...56mm223Caliber

http://www.eliteiron.net/elite-iron-...ors-page3.html

SamHouseIII · 01-07-2012, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archtaan

Picked up my Keltec KSG shotgun yesterday. It feels and shoots great! Can't wait till they get more of these on the market.

one of my must have guns for 2012.

Gigachip · 01-07-2012, 12:09 AM

Today I bought my first gun

Remington 770 .30-06
Will say I love it

01-05-2012, 08:46 PM	#1194
Infern0 Bring It Drives: In Between Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 2,929 View My Garage	Just saw the new H&K P30. Anyone have it? Looks so sweet. Kinda $$$ though. __________________ 2017 Camaro ZL1 M6 - Everything but the sunroof - Sold 2010 Camaro SS - 650RWHP Daily Driver - Traded

01-06-2012, 08:59 PM	#1201
Brokinarrow Drives: 2012 Honda NC700x Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indianola, IA Posts: 5,317 View My Garage	Watched through the entire Firefly series again this week (LOVE that show!) Anyway, noticed that Zoe's main gun of choice (a Mare's Leg) looked like it'd be a fun one to shoot. Anyone have one of these, or shot one before? Saw a vid on youtube for a JB Custom model that they said was accurate out to 150 yards, wondering if that's typical for a mare's leg or if it's just cuz it's a JB Custom. May have to snag one of these at the next gun show... __________________

01-07-2012, 12:09 AM	#1204
Gigachip Runs on Starbucks Drives: 2012 SVT Raptor Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Mexico Posts: 10,343 View My Garage	Today I bought my first gun Remington 770 .30-06 Will say I love it __________________

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01-05-2012, 07:26 PM	#1191
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	If you are a right handed shooter, shooting low and left is usually a sign of milking. That is where you are tightening your strong hand little and ring fingers as you are firing.

01-05-2012, 08:01 PM	#1192
Mr_Draco Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 7,344	For a right hander, pulling to the left is also a sign that you are putting too much finger on the trigger. And putting too little finger on the trigger will cause you to pull to the right. The pull is only slight, 1-2 degrees off angle, but over 10-15 yards that could mean a few inches. A lot of people will naturally shoot low with new handguns as they overcompensate for the expected kick and they will subconsciously pull down on the gun just as soon as they pull the trigger. My suggestions are, practice pulling the trigger with the gun empty until you get your grip set and are comfortable with it and record yourself shooting the next time you go to the range from different angles. This way you can see what you are doing to cause the pulling. Until you see and understand what you are doing to cause the pulling you won't be able to correct it.

01-06-2012, 09:46 AM	#1196
archtaan Drives: car Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 305	Picked up my Keltec KSG shotgun yesterday. It feels and shoots great! Can't wait till they get more of these on the market.

01-06-2012, 01:59 PM	#1199
Jay00f4 Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tampa Posts: 10	Thanks for the comments I have been working on my trigger pull and getting better. I will take some pics of my next range trip.