So my dog bit my girlfriend...

[IrocJack]

OUR JAPANESE CHIN IN KILL MODE-SAMURAI NOT INCLUDED

[CamaroSkooter]

Originally Posted by Z28RockStar

Hope your girlfriend is OK! She may need antibiotics man! those look deep she may need a stitch or two as well! On a lighter note she sounds pretty!

On a more serious note, I don't give a shit what kinda breed or animal it is, where I come from a .44 mag is what solves that shit. Yeah you like the dog. . . whatever, what if your girlfriend and you had a kid and the kid got attacked not another dog.

.44 MAG

Did you even read his post and comprehend what actually happened? The dogs didn't attack anyone. They were fighting and the girlfriend put her hand between two fighting dogs.

He was asking for recommendations on how to get the two dogs to remain calm around each other. Your advice seems a bit...extreme...no?

[angie7]

Well I had a long post typed and my computer decided to delete it

Anyways, I have not read all 5 pages so I apologize if some of my points have already been addressed. I have tons of experience with dogs from rescuing abused/neglected dogs to training. I worked with all breeds but focused mainly on Great Danes.

As it has already been pointed out, dogs will be dogs. Pitbulls are a wonderful breed but in all fairness, they do tend to be more prone to fighting then other breeds. Its just in their brain chemistry but overall, they are a sweet breed. This was 100% your gf's fault why she got bit. You never get in the middle of a dog fight. Best way to break up a fight is water, hose, bucket, etc. Breaking their concentration is key but you don't want to do that with your own body. When they are in that mindset, your hand is just another thing in their way and is bite worthy. Def get the wounds cleaned well and keep them clean. Easily infected and she is going to be very sore for a very long time. The bacteria in their saliva is very powerful and makes the tissues very sore.

Are the dogs in question neutered and spayed? If not, that will help a lot. In my experience once dogs start to fight, they usually do not stop, it only gets worse. I hope this is a hormone issue and once the dog(s) are fixed it won't happen anymore.

[PETRA]

Originally Posted by IrocJack

OUR JAPANESE CHIN IN KILL MODE-SAMURAI NOT INCLUDED

hehehe ... ohhhh I'm ascared!!

[Z28RockStar]

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

Did you even read his post and comprehend what actually happened? The dogs didn't attack anyone. They were fighting and the girlfriend put her hand between two fighting dogs.

He was asking for recommendations on how to get the two dogs to remain calm around each other. Your advice seems a bit...extreme...no?

Yes, I have very high reading comprehension, I do not care what breed or race of animal, violent animals should be put down or in their natural habitat or a zoo. Violent animals do not belong in a domestic residence regardless of whom or what they're being violent against. I'd have shot them both. Did you not read or comprehend all my posts? I know a child was not involved and the female intervened, I asked, what if? Suppose the couple never has kids, fine. Neighbors could have unknowing naive youth that jumps the fence to retrieve a ball and gets mauled or worse, killed. I keep my position on this one and stand my ground.

.44 MAG OR if you're some shiny fuzzy happy tree hugging hippie peta animal lover garbage, take the vicious animal (if your fuzzy happy tree hugging ass can get it in a pen to do so) to a veterinarian for a nice painless hippie dope shot to give it a nice long permanent nap.

[NicksVSix]

I'm of the philosophy that if a dog ever bites a person, ever, they get sleep needle.

I don't trust pit bulls as far as I could throw one. If I am with my daughter (6 years old) and I see a pit bull, I immediately place myself between her and the dog for as long as it's nearby. There's been too many stories of pitbulls attacking people, kids especially, for no reason at all. It's a dangerous breed. Sure, they can be raised to be peaceful dogs, but they are prone to being aggressive and violent, just as retrievers are prone to being peaceful and docile. It's bred into them.

I don't understand the attraction to a breed of dogs that is essentially a ticking time bomb when there are so many other breeds that have much better and more desirable temperments.

/rant over.

[NicksVSix]

Originally Posted by angie7

You never get in the middle of a dog fight.

A dog that will attack another dog (or even a cat) is just as dangerous an animal as a dog who attacks a human. It's not exactly a desirable trait to see in an animal.

[Z28RockStar]

Originally Posted by NicksVSix

I'm of the philosophy that if a dog ever bites a person, ever, they get sleep needle.

I don't trust pit bulls as far as I could throw one. If I am with my daughter (6 years old) and I see a pit bull, I imediately place myself between her and the dog for as long as it's nearby. There's been too many stories of pitbulls attacking people, kids especially, fo no reason at all. It's a dangerous breed. Sure, they can be raised to be peaceful dogs, but they are prone to being aggressive and violent, just as retrievers are prone to being peaceful and docile. It's bred into them.

Originally Posted by NicksVSix

A dog that will attack another dog (or even a cat) is just as dangerous an animal as a dog who attacks a human. It's not exactly a desirable trait to see in an animal.

I agree, in addition people do not seem to be comprehending the word "DOMESTIC" or "DOMICILE" or "DOMESTICATED". We are civilians, derived from the word civilized, we are domestic in that we have families, families live in domiciles,(our homes), as civilized humans we "domesticate" animals to be civil and live with us as work animals or pleasure of company animals. This is usually acomplished over centuries with breeding and or deprivation of freedom over the long course of time so that the breed or animal becomes dependant on civilized humans to provide food for it as it is unable to sustain it's self in the wild. Therefore it's domesticated to be civil as we are. A violent, agressive and or vicious animal is not a domesticated one and should be in the wild, in a zoo or six feet under. Enjoy Peta and the rest of you animal loving hippies, I love my dog, if it was aggressive, violent or vicious I'd do the responsible thing and put it down. I hope anyone way on the other side of the fence are never maimed, attacked or the owner of a vicious animal that takes a childs life and you have to be the one to live with that the rest of yours. End of story.

[NicksVSix]

Cute puppies, btw, Z28Rockstar....what breed?

Oh, and I love beer, love it. I like really hoppy beers like Dogfish Head and Sierra Nevada's IPAs....what's yer fav?

[Moriartii]

Z28RockStar-
Normally I enjoy your posts and find that you and I have similar tastes in many things however in this case what is wrong with you? You and I are going to have to so disagree on this and I cannot understand your position, IN THIS CASE, of arbitrarily wanting to put the animals down (the hippie comments do crack me up to no end though!).

Here is why I disagree with your stance, IN THIS CASE:
*I dont believe it was the dogs fault, they were being dogs, no mind you dont read into that as there is a limit to being dogs.
*An uneducated person attempted to break up the act of determining dominance in a pack - they got bit.
*The OP has already stated that the animals have not had training so do they have a already established propensity to attack, bit and tear the shit out of someone/something? I dont think so from reading this tread.

So my take is in this case I think we have a scenario of untrained dogs along with an uneducated gf which equals a bad case of getting bit. I dont think the animals need to be put down however I DO think education and training need to take place because if not THEN we will be on the way to a case of the animals needing to be put down.

I hope I am making sense? I think you are jumping a bit ahead in your reaction.

Cheers
K

[Z28RockStar]

Originally Posted by MannyC

Let me start by giving you a little background. My gf moved in with me a year ago and brought her dog(Diamond). She is a 2 1/2 year old pitbull who is the sweetest dog in the world. Pic1.
Well I was starting to feel guilty leaving Diamond at home all day by herself, so I went and got another dog... a male red nose pit bull(PapiPic2. Well Diamond and Papi got along great from day one, they played all day until they were just too tired to move. Weve had them together for 2 months now and everything was going great... until this past Sunday. I was at work and my gf let the dogs out to play and do their business, when all of a sudden she heard snarling and barking. She didnt get too excited beacuse if anyone has seen two pitbulls play, its pretty intense. Well she noticed that they werent playing and they were actually going at each other. She ran over to break them up... shes 5' 2" and about 110lbs... the female pit is about 35lbs and the male is prob around 50lbs. Any dog, much less two, that is close to your weight and is pissed is probably going to end badly for you. Well the gf sticks her hand in between to grab their faces and push them apart but the dogs react if she is not even there and proceed to bite her. Pic3 Neither one has ever even snarled at a human before much less bite them. She then jumped on the male to hold him down, he stopped fighting but the female would not stop. She scratched up my gf pretty good, luckily my brother had spent the night and heard her scream for help. He came running out and proceeded to drop kick the female and shock her out of kill mode. Luckily there was no life threatening injuries to anyone, but Im in shock of what happened. Both dogs are very good and have never done anything like this before... is it possible one is getting tired of the other? Before someone starts saying its because their pitbulls obvously doesnt know what their talking about and would appreciate you keeping your uninformed opinion to yourself.

Originally Posted by NicksVSix

Cute puppies, btw, Z28Rockstar....what breed?

Oh, and I love beer, love it. I like really hoppy beers like Dogfish Head and Sierra Nevada's IPAs....what's yer fav?

They're Samoyeds man! They are some of the most docile dogs ever I SO LOVE them! Dogfish Head 60min IPA is one of my favs, I like the 30 min IPA too! Great taste in beers there Bro! Also will include my Miller Lite add I made myself as I love Miller Lite as well, (Blue Moon too, can't forget that), I'm getting to old to drink desert beers all the time or "BIG" beers as they're refered too in the brewing community, Miller Lite helps me maintain my "girlish" figure LOL!

Originally Posted by Moriartii

Z28RockStar-
Normally I enjoy your posts and find that you and I have similar tastes in many things however in this case what is wrong with you? You and I are going to have to so disagree on this and I cannot understand your position, IN THIS CASE, of arbitrarily wanting to put the animals down (the hippie comments do crack me up to no end though!).

Here is why I disagree with your stance, IN THIS CASE:
*I dont believe it was the dogs fault, they were being dogs, no mind you dont read into that as there is a limit to being dogs.
*An uneducated person attempted to break up the act of determining dominance in a pack - they got bit.
*The OP has already stated that the animals have not had training so do they have a already established propensity to attack, bit and tear the shit out of someone/something? I dont think so from reading this tread.

So my take is in this case I think we have a scenario of untrained dogs along with an uneducated gf which equals a bad case of getting bit. I dont think the animals need to be put down however I DO think education and training need to take place because if not THEN we will be on the way to a case of the animals needing to be put down.

I hope I am making sense? I think you are jumping a bit ahead in your reaction.

Cheers
K

Thank you for your compliments, however as a registered AKC judge for the working class and a registered kennel owner and breeder I have a firm belief by seeing the wounds and a lifetime of experience around many breeds that was not a simple dispute over dominance or lack of training. Dog fighting is illegal. When a question of dominance comes in a truly domesticated situation one is aggressive (usually the male) (though I've seen a female Chihuahua dominate my large male Samoyed) and the other lays down and rolls over to show submission. I apologize if I upset you as that's not my intention, I am rather abrupt on my strong convictions. I believe those to be dangerous animals not fully domesticated. An undomesticated animal can not be domesticated in one life time. We will have to agree to disagree. I only pray one of these dogs does not severely injure anyone in the future or kill one or the other or a small child. I wouldn't want that grief on my shoulders for the rest of my life Brother.

OH and yeah. . . Shiny fuzzy happy tree hugging PETA participating animal loving gun rights fighting vegetarian pot smoking hippies fighting the establishment crack me up too lol.

NOW! MY MILLER LITE ADD I MADE MYSELF! (wife was photographer)
Yeap, y'all get both versions AND appologies on the thread jack! lol

[angie7]

Originally Posted by NicksVSix

A dog that will attack another dog (or even a cat) is just as dangerous an animal as a dog who attacks a human. It's not exactly a desirable trait to see in an animal.

People need to realize that while these cute little fuzzy creatures lay on your couch and share our lives, are still that, creatures. They are not humans in a fur coat. They have their own set of rules and still very much "wild". It's up to us, humans, to train ourselves on animal behavior. Anyone experienced in dogs knows long before a dog fight is going to happen. The dogs give off plenty of clues that most people don't see. Dogs will be dogs, simple fact, dont get in the middle of a dog fight and you wont get bit....

[Z28RockStar]

Originally Posted by angie7

People need to realize that while these cute little fuzzy creatures lay on your couch and share our lives, are still that, creatures. They are not humans in a fur coat. They have their own set of rules and still very much "wild". It's up to us, humans, to train ourselves on animal behavior. Anyone experienced in dogs knows long before a dog fight is going to happen. The dogs give off plenty of clues that most people don't see. Dogs will be dogs, simple fact, dont get in the middle of a dog fight and you wont get bit....

I've been around all breeds all my life, primarily working class dogs. I do not believe dogs that go past posturing and submission and truly fight in "kill mode" (his words not mine) are truly domesticated. Sorry not buying it. Did I mention "dog fighting" is illegal? lol.

[Jay_LHD3]

Too many people today make excuses for unacceptable behavior. Dogs will be dogs..., I don't buy that.

If you are going to live with a pack of dogs (more than one) then you better be the pack leader. If your dogs, any breed, fight among each other, even if it is just every now and then... news flash... you're not the pack leader.