The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by assasinator

are you aware that the redline is 6800? how do you define high rpms? who exactly is this source? what well known so cal dealer? maybe they can share it in public. where are these damaged motors? are you aware that previous modulars at 7k do not scuff pistons?

yata yata yata. BS.


you sound like hugger saying that modular 5.0 cant take more than 425rwhp. because of a "source". sheesh.

Dude, get it right....I said a modular 4.6 can't take it. If you want it right from the source ( dyno operator & tuner ) call Mike @ Straightline Performance ( 815 ) 485-7741 and ask him what he limits his RWHP tunes to for those engines and why. Oh yeah, ask him how many 4.6 have put rods through the block while you have him on the line.

[assasinator]

1. 15 GS 1 Multimatic Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 1:10.740 77.404
2. 61 GS 2 Roush Performance Ford Mustang GT 1:11.315 0.575 0.575 76.780
3. 13 GS 3 Rum Bum Racing BMW M3 Coupe 1:11.397 0.082 0.657 76.692
4. 48 GS 4 Fall-Line Motorsports BMW M3 Coupe 1:11.557 0.160 0.817 76.520
5. 83 GS 5 BGB Motorsports Porsche 997 1:11.639 0.082 0.899 76.433
6. 46 GS 6 Fall-Line Motorsports BMW M3 Coupe 1:11.678 0.039 0.938 76.391
7. 99 GS 7 Automatic Racing BMW M3 Coupe 1:11.743 0.065 1.003 76.322
8. 45 GS 8 Fall-Line Motorsports BMW M3 Coupe 1:11.922 0.179 1.182 76.132
9. 6 GS 9 Stevenson Motorsports Camaro GS.R 1:11.945 0.023 1.205 76.108
10. 97 GS 10 Turner Motorsport BMW M3 Coupe 1:12.259 0.314 1.519 75.777
11. 44 GS 11 Magnus Racing Porsche Cayman 1:12.427 0.168 1.687 75.601
12. 35 GS 12 Subaru Road Racing Team Subaru WRX-STI 1:12.605 0.178 1.865 75.416
13. 96 GS 13 Turner Motorsport BMW M3 Coupe 1:12.650 0.045 1.910 75.369 14. 9 GS
14 Stevenson Motorsports Camaro GS.R 1:12.830 0.180 2.090 75.183 15. 16 GS
15 Multimatic Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 1:12.935 0.105 2.195 75.075
16. 62 GS 16 Mitchum Motorsports Camaro GS.R 1:12.954 0.019 2.214 75.055
17. 23 GS 17 BGB Motorsports Porsche Cayman 1:13.452 0.498 2.712 74.546
18. 29 GS 18 Racers Edge Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 1:13.492 0.040 2.752 74.506
19. 19 GS 20 Southerlee Racing Ford Mustang GT 1:15.016 1.524 4.276 72.992
20. 41 GS 21 TRG Porsche 997 1:15.868 0.852 5.128 72.172


All of you, even those poor misguided wayward misinformed souls with any brand-x bits, will be welcome to talk cars and suspension. If you are really lucky, we may even have a cold slab of stubbies (Aussie for case of beer).



couldnt agree with you more!!!!!!!!!!

[assasinator]

[QUOTE=Huggerorange73;2623042]

Originally Posted by assasinator

are you aware that the redline is 6800? how do you define high rpms? who exactly is this source? what well known so cal dealer? maybe they can share it in public. where are these damaged motors? are you aware that previous modulars at 7k do not scuff pistons?

yata yata yata. BS.


you sound like hugger saying that modular 5.0 cant take more than 425rwhp. because of a "source". sheesh.[/QUOTE]

Dude, get it right....I said a modular 4.6 can't take it. If you want it right from the source ( dyno operator & tuner ) call Mike @ Straightline Performance ( 815 ) 485-7741 and ask him what he limits his RWHP tunes to for those engines and why. Oh yeah, ask him how many 4.6 have put rods through the block while you have him on the line.

wasnt trying to get personal. its just the same kind of comment. ill delete it.

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by assasinator

No need to delete it, I just wanted to clarify what I had said earlier. I would hope by now you've figured out I know a little bit about cars and try not to make assine statements that don't have some merit to them.

In addition to that, I did provide my source!

[assasinator]

1. 61 B.Johnson, J.Roush Jr Roush Performance Ford Mustang GT 57.854 95.205
2. 15 J.Foster, S.Maxwell Multimatic Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 57.939 0.085 0.085 95.065
3. 37 J.Gue, B.Seafuse JBS Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 57.983 0.044 0.129 94.993
4. 6 M.Bell, J.Bucknum Stevenson Motorsports Camaro GS.R 58.010 0.027 0.156 94.949
5. 16 G.Jeannette, F.Montecalvo Multimatic Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 58.093 0.083 0.239 94.813
6. 9 A.Carter, H.Plumb Stevenson Motorsports Camaro GS.R 58.112 0.019 0.258 94.782
7. 52 B.Michaelian, K.Wilden Rehagen Racing Ford Mustang GT 58.348 0.236 0.494 94.399
8. 99 M.Hillestad, B.Waddell Automatic Racing BMW M3 Coupe 58.351 0.003 0.497 94.394
9. 59 D.Martin, R.Winchester Rehagen Racing Ford Mustang GT 58.415 0.064 0.561 94.291
10. 46 S.Cameron, R.Finlay Fall-Line Motorsports BMW M3 Coupe 58.429 0.014 0.575 94.268
11. 35 A.Aquilante, B.Spaude Subaru Road Racing Team Subaru WRX-STI 58.434 0.005 0.580 94.260
12. 96 B.Auberlen, P.Dalla Lana Turner Motorsport BMW M3 Coupe 58.457 0.023 0.603 94.223
13. 38 S.Jenkins, C.Stanton BGB Motorsports Porsche Cayman 58.511 0.054 0.657 94.136
14. 01 I.Baas, J.Taylor APR Motorsport Audi S4 58.530 0.019 0.676 94.106
15. 62 J.Atterbury, D.von Moltke Mitchum Motorsports Camaro GS.R 58.553 0.023 0.699 94.069
16. 97 J.Hand, M.Marsal Turner Motorsport BMW M3 Coupe 58.588 0.035 0.734 94.012
17. 23 K.Carroll, D.Ende BGB Motorsports Porsche Cayman 58.651 0.063 0.797 93.911
18. 17 M.Ackley, P.Ludwig, F.Serralles CMA Motorsports Ford Mustang GT 58.703 0.052 0.849 93.828
19. 48 C.Espenlaub, C.Putman Fall-Line Motorsports BMW M3 Coupe 58.705 0.002 0.851 93.825
20. 11 S.Panzer, T.Snyder CMA Motorsports Ford Mustang GT 58.903 0.198 1.049 93.510
21. 47 C.MacNeil, G.Schaldach Fall-Line Motorsports BMW M3 Coupe 59.008 0.105 1.154 93.343
22. 13 G.Bacardi, M.Plumb Rum Bum Racing BMW M3 Coupe 59.053 0.045 1.199 93.272
23. 45 T.Borcheller, A.Hendricks Fall-Line Motorsports BMW M3 Coupe 59.081 0.028 1.227 93.228
24. 89 G.Freile, K.Stadtlander Ranger Sports Racing Porsche 997 59.133 0.052 1.279 93.146
25. 44 J.Potter, L.Keen Magnus Racing Porsche Cayman 59.144 0.011 1.290 93.129
26. 83 G.Cosmo, S.Tetreault BGB Motorsports Porsche Carrera 59.260 0.116 1.406 92.946
27. 88 B.Ellis, F.Wellon Ranger Sports Racing Porsche 997 59.275 0.015 1.421 92.923
28. 19 B.Adams, S.Phillips Capaldi Racing Ford Mustang GT 59.589 0.314 1.735 92.433
29. 87 D.DiLeo, S.Schroeder Maxwell Paper Racing Porsche 997 59.779 0.190 1.925 92.139
30. 29 J.Buford, M.Gutierrez Racers Edge Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 59.810 0.031 1.956 92.092
31. 14 T.Anthony Jr, R.Edwards TC Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 1:10.672 10.862 12.818 77.938




looks to me like IRS domination if ive EVER seen it!!!!!!!!!!!! apples to apples. not a better suspension in one than the other.

the results are like this race after race. i think the camaro did do well toeard the end of the season.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Better get your flame suit on.

Originally Posted by BoomBoomKid

This wasn't my call. I was informed. This still doesn't distract from the Mustang 5.0 being a fast car that can hold its own with the LS3 C5 Camaro in stock form.

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

I know, I'm just sayin.

Originally Posted by chain777

You guys get a kick out of baiting the Mustang guys, huh? No need for the Mustang police, since this is just hearsay. Until I start seeing owners posting these problems, it's all just speculation. I think you all have 5.0 envy that increases with dropping stock ET's.

Originally Posted by Sax1031

You do realize the 5.0 coyote is a modular engine right?

Originally Posted by assasinator

are you aware that the redline is 6800? how do you define high rpms? who exactly is this source? what well known so cal dealer? maybe they can share it in public. where are these damaged motors? are you aware that previous modulars at 7k do not scuff pistons?

yata yata yata. BS.

This is what I was talking about BoomBoomKid. That's all I was saying.

[wbt]

Originally Posted by BoomBoomKid

If you race your 2011 5.0 Mustang and it breaks don't let your Ford dealer know you were racing it. It seems the 5.0 engines are having parts breakage. I was told by a Ford parts person that works in a well known SoCal Ford dealership bulletins have gone out noting piston scuffing, bearing oil starvation and high RPM instability occurring in the new 5.0 at an alarming rate. Which appears related to frequent high RPM situations. i.e. racing. Also be aware of modifications to the motor, the 5.0 does not like mods from stock. Seems this engine went from paper to design to a finished product in less than a year. Did Ford cut corners? Don't know. Most Ford guys are sticking with Ford Modular engine for very high HP.

Damn....I guess all us 5.0 owners need to sell the shit off and go drive Kia's.

That is the most unsubstantiated piece of information I have seen posted about the new 5.0. It is garbage. I know of 2 untouched/modified motors that have gone.

1. Injector stuck open.
2. M6 owner who downshifted from 3rd to 2nd at a high RPM.

I know of 2 modified motors that have let go.

1. 275 shot of nitrous.
2. Supercharged motor where an idiot was street racing on pump gas with a race gas tune.

I would hardly call that a pandemic. I have seen/heard of more LS3 motors going away due to bad oil pumps.

Get your facts straight.

Some more reality check for you GM boys: http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48591

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

This is what I was talking about BoomBoomKid. That's all I was saying.

hard to take someone seriously who sounds like they don't know a thing about what they are talking about.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

hard to take someone seriously who sounds like they don't know a thing about what they are talking about.

That's why I said he better put his flame suit on. It sounds like BS to me as well.

[VR Baron]

I was at the muffler shop today getting rid of the stock resonators and got to see a new 5.0, m6 Mustang and talk to the owner. The car is nice in person, very sleek but does have a few things I personally don't care for and has been mentioned on the forum here. The outside looks good and better then the previous version but the rear end doesn't work for me and the tires look way to small but not sure how big of a wheel/tire you could fit in there. On the inside the plastic has a rougher appearing, larger pattered look to it and so do the leather seats, but other then that pretty nice.
The car was silver with silver wheels and that combo looked more like a rental car, the owner agreed and wished for a different color but for 31k not a bad deal at all! He also said he wished he had gotten the A6 and not the M6 as the A6 has been beating him at the track, he has a hard time getting the car to hook up and he didn't sound like a novice either. As to power he dyno'ed stock and got 363 rwhp. He added a dynomax axel back, modded the airbox and deleted all cats and got 404, but today put the cats back as the car was way to loud and added a 3" x pipe mid section to the car.Odd thing here is he said the stock exhaust was 2-7/8" after the cats but narrowed to about 2-1/4" then back up to 2-7/8"
Very odd.

the car sounded good at idle, not loud, and fantastic when revving it up Oh yes, the car comes stock with shorty headers also so his system is done.

One last note we talked about the group here and how we all help each other out and love the car, he liked that and he said, and his opinion of course, not only do alot of Mustang people hate Camaro's and Chally's but worse they hate each other more! Always out to get each other or race all the time but I guess not in a good way, been seeing that since the 80's

[MatchbookSS]

Originally Posted by 2010 SSRS

they love our Camaros, that's why they hang on Camaro forums , I would not even think about going to a mustang forum, I love Camaros that's why I'm addicted to Camaro5

Oh you should really try it. It's fairly entertaining.

Originally Posted by assasinator

1. 61 B.Johnson, J.Roush Jr Roush Performance Ford Mustang GT 57.854 95.205
2. 15 J.Foster, S.Maxwell Multimatic Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 57.939 0.085 0.085 95.065
3. 37 J.Gue, B.Seafuse JBS Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 57.983 0.044 0.129 94.993
4. 6 M.Bell, J.Bucknum Stevenson Motorsports Camaro GS.R 58.010 0.027 0.156 94.949
5. 16 G.Jeannette, F.Montecalvo Multimatic Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 58.093 0.083 0.239 94.813
6. 9 A.Carter, H.Plumb Stevenson Motorsports Camaro GS.R 58.112 0.019 0.258 94.782
7. 52 B.Michaelian, K.Wilden Rehagen Racing Ford Mustang GT 58.348 0.236 0.494 94.399
8. 99 M.Hillestad, B.Waddell Automatic Racing BMW M3 Coupe 58.351 0.003 0.497 94.394
9. 59 D.Martin, R.Winchester Rehagen Racing Ford Mustang GT 58.415 0.064 0.561 94.291
10. 46 S.Cameron, R.Finlay Fall-Line Motorsports BMW M3 Coupe 58.429 0.014 0.575 94.268
11. 35 A.Aquilante, B.Spaude Subaru Road Racing Team Subaru WRX-STI 58.434 0.005 0.580 94.260
12. 96 B.Auberlen, P.Dalla Lana Turner Motorsport BMW M3 Coupe 58.457 0.023 0.603 94.223
13. 38 S.Jenkins, C.Stanton BGB Motorsports Porsche Cayman 58.511 0.054 0.657 94.136
14. 01 I.Baas, J.Taylor APR Motorsport Audi S4 58.530 0.019 0.676 94.106
15. 62 J.Atterbury, D.von Moltke Mitchum Motorsports Camaro GS.R 58.553 0.023 0.699 94.069
16. 97 J.Hand, M.Marsal Turner Motorsport BMW M3 Coupe 58.588 0.035 0.734 94.012
17. 23 K.Carroll, D.Ende BGB Motorsports Porsche Cayman 58.651 0.063 0.797 93.911
18. 17 M.Ackley, P.Ludwig, F.Serralles CMA Motorsports Ford Mustang GT 58.703 0.052 0.849 93.828
19. 48 C.Espenlaub, C.Putman Fall-Line Motorsports BMW M3 Coupe 58.705 0.002 0.851 93.825
20. 11 S.Panzer, T.Snyder CMA Motorsports Ford Mustang GT 58.903 0.198 1.049 93.510
21. 47 C.MacNeil, G.Schaldach Fall-Line Motorsports BMW M3 Coupe 59.008 0.105 1.154 93.343
22. 13 G.Bacardi, M.Plumb Rum Bum Racing BMW M3 Coupe 59.053 0.045 1.199 93.272
23. 45 T.Borcheller, A.Hendricks Fall-Line Motorsports BMW M3 Coupe 59.081 0.028 1.227 93.228
24. 89 G.Freile, K.Stadtlander Ranger Sports Racing Porsche 997 59.133 0.052 1.279 93.146
25. 44 J.Potter, L.Keen Magnus Racing Porsche Cayman 59.144 0.011 1.290 93.129
26. 83 G.Cosmo, S.Tetreault BGB Motorsports Porsche Carrera 59.260 0.116 1.406 92.946
27. 88 B.Ellis, F.Wellon Ranger Sports Racing Porsche 997 59.275 0.015 1.421 92.923
28. 19 B.Adams, S.Phillips Capaldi Racing Ford Mustang GT 59.589 0.314 1.735 92.433
29. 87 D.DiLeo, S.Schroeder Maxwell Paper Racing Porsche 997 59.779 0.190 1.925 92.139
30. 29 J.Buford, M.Gutierrez Racers Edge Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 59.810 0.031 1.956 92.092
31. 14 T.Anthony Jr, R.Edwards TC Motorsports Mustang Boss 302R 1:10.672 10.862 12.818 77.938




looks to me like IRS domination if ive EVER seen it!!!!!!!!!!!! apples to apples. not a better suspension in one than the other.

the results are like this race after race. i think the camaro did do well toeard the end of the season.

Originally Posted by wbt

Damn....I guess all us 5.0 owners need to sell the shit off and go drive Kia's.

That is the most unsubstantiated piece of information I have seen posted about the new 5.0. It is garbage. I know of 2 untouched/modified motors that have gone.

1. Injector stuck open.
2. M6 owner who downshifted from 3rd to 2nd at a high RPM.

I know of 2 modified motors that have let go.

1. 275 shot of nitrous.
2. Supercharged motor where an idiot was street racing on pump gas with a race gas tune.

I would hardly call that a pandemic. I have seen/heard of more LS3 motors going away due to bad oil pumps.

Get your facts straight.

Some more reality check for you GM boys: http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48591

Baaaaawwwww!!!! Mustang trolls go away!!!! Go back to S197forum!!!! Baaaaaaawwwww!!!!!

Who am I? Oh, wait. I'm every S197 guy on S197forum.com. Bitching, moaning and complaining about some GM cats on their forum. But you don't here people baawwwing here at you, raining on their parade.

[assasinator]

Originally Posted by MatchbookSS

Oh you should really try it. It's fairly entertaining.






Baaaaawwwww!!!! Mustang trolls go away!!!! Go back to S197forum!!!! Baaaaaaawwwww!!!!!

Who am I? Oh, wait. I'm every S197 guy on S197forum.com. Bitching, moaning and complaining about some GM cats on their forum. But you don't here people baawwwing here at you, raining on their parade.

man, i like you. you kill me. if i behaved in here the way you behave in mustang forums, admin would have sent me packing a long time ago.

I get along in the GM forums because number one, i own gm products and love them more than Ford, and number two i respect the money and time spent on The cars people in these forums love. number three, I dont parade around like a nutswinger. i do speak of the virtues of the vehicles i prefer. Cadillac, jeep, and some fords. The 2011 GT was my last ford purchase. I have better things to spend my money and time on.

And lastly....if my woman, who by the way is a camaro fan, wanted a gen5 i would get one for her. She would look smoking hot driving it.

[MatchbookSS]

Originally Posted by assasinator

man, i like you. you kill me. if i behaved in here the way you behave in mustang forums, admin would have sent me packing a long time ago.

I get along in the GM forums because number one, i own gm products and love them more than Ford, and number two i respect the money and time spent on The cars people in these forums love. number three, I dont parade around like a nutswinger. i do speak of the virtues of the vehicles i prefer. Cadillac, jeep, and some fords. The 2011 GT was my last ford purchase. I have better things to spend my money and time on.

And lastly....if my woman, who by the way is a camaro fan, wanted a gen5 i would get one for her. She would look smoking hot driving it.

Probably. They're a bit of a stuffy bunch here. That's not to say that your cats on the S197 forum aren't exactly walking around without a bit of a stick up their ass their either. But I think that's mostly just the Ford Fanatic Fanboy club there. FFF for short.

I realize that you don't parade around a like a nutswinger, either. I've said it there, and I'll say it here. I love cars. Doesn't matter the make/model, or what have you. But like, you, I just prefer the car I prefer. If it were on performance alone, I would have bought a 2011 GT. But I like the aesthetics more on the C5 SS. I don't mind having a slower car for the looks I like. I mean, I have to look at it everytime I drive it, right? But I'm not always trying to race it. Can't have your cake and eat it all the time. I'm on the S197 forum because I like the car, respect it, and want to learn a bit more about it, especially the new 5.0.

Anyways, don't take anything I say personally, like some of your compadres do. I just call it like I see it most of the time. I don't have anything against anyone, really. And I wish I had better things to spend my money on. I still haven't grown up past my mid-20's, hobby-wise, regrettably.

Anyways, thanks for not correcting the fact that I didn't spell "hear" correctly in my last post.

[wbt]

Originally Posted by MatchbookSS

Oh you should really try it. It's fairly entertaining.






Baaaaawwwww!!!! Mustang trolls go away!!!! Go back to S197forum!!!! Baaaaaaawwwww!!!!!

Who am I? Oh, wait. I'm every S197 guy on S197forum.com. Bitching, moaning and complaining about some GM cats on their forum. But you don't here people baawwwing here at you, raining on their parade.

I should not be posting here and I have told myself I need to stop however when I see blatant bullshit posted, I will comment about it.

You are right, I should check out and call it done...nothing more to prove.