2024 NFL season discussions

[detamble13]

Easy there Farmer. No one likes the Chiefs. No one gives a shit about the Eagles haha

As I remember the refs all looked at each other and they went upstairs for the spot. Challenging would have been asking to review what they just reviewed. It still doesn't win the game for the Bills but really hurts at that point.

Be honest Poormans camaro. You were eagerly waiting with those Simpsons memes

[NjaTrtl]

Originally Posted by detamble13

Easy there Farmer. No one likes the Chiefs. No one gives a shit about the Eagles haha

As I remember the refs all looked at each other and they went upstairs for the spot. Challenging would have been asking to review what they just reviewed. It still doesn't win the game for the Bills but really hurts at that point.

Be honest Poormans camaro. You were eagerly waiting with those Simpsons memes

The part that really sucks about that stop was the far side ref had it marked at the line to gain and the near side ref had it marked short. If they go with the far ref then we get the 1st down and most likely they wouldn't overrule it with that same video evidence. So, why did the near ref get to make the call? And why didn't the other ref question the placement?

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by NjaTrtl

The part that really sucks about that stop was the far side ref had it marked at the line to gain and the near side ref had it marked short. If they go with the far ref then we get the 1st down and most likely they wouldn't overrule it with that same video evidence. So, why did the near ref get to make the call? And why didn't the other ref question the placement?

What about on the 4th down drop there was an apparent flag thrown but after the play was over there was no flag? There's a theory that the flag was thrown in anticipation of the Bills converting...Not saying what side of the theory I'm on haha.

I will say this, all year long I thought the Bills converted tushpushes the best, better than my Eagles. Your team really struggled getting that initial push that's required for the play to work yesterday. Hoping my Eagles do a better job two Sundays from now (and also pressure Mahomes better because that's most important).

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by detamble13

Easy there Farmer. No one likes the Chiefs. No one gives a shit about the Eagles haha

As I remember the refs all looked at each other and they went upstairs for the spot. Challenging would have been asking to review what they just reviewed. It still doesn't win the game for the Bills but really hurts at that point.

Be honest Poormans camaro. You were eagerly waiting with those Simpsons memes

[102SS]

Originally Posted by NjaTrtl

The part that really sucks about that stop was the far side ref had it marked at the line to gain and the near side ref had it marked short. If they go with the far ref then we get the 1st down and most likely they wouldn't overrule it with that same video evidence. So, why did the near ref get to make the call? And why didn't the other ref question the placement?

Watch the ref that marks the Bills short of the line to gain.

He starts out on the first down line then slowly changes his trajectory to position himself 1/2 yard short.

Do you really think the Bills were going to win?

Of course the NFL wants the Kansas City Swifty's in the SB

3 peat coming then they go for 4 and win eclipsing the 4 SB losses in a row by the 90's Bills with 4 Swifty wins.

But the good news is as a reward for opening the new playpen in 2026 the Bills will host the draft and make the SB...no garantees on a win

[102SS]

Originally Posted by FarmerFran

Pretty sure it was reviewed and found to be "short"

It was reviewed but they basically said inconclusive and the call on the field stands if it was called the other way it would have stood.

Just another way to fool the average fan into thinking its all on the up and up.

You can't challenge on a booth reviewed play.

Get past the line to gain and there is no controversy.

[102SS]

Originally Posted by NjaTrtl

Cook needs to be used as a 3 down back. He is a game breaker. I think Johnson and Davis are very good too and have made some big plays, but I don't know why Cook isn't getting at least 20 touches a game.

Ty is a way better pass catcher

I would like to see Next Gen stats on Kincaid catching the last pass....I bet it would be about 5% chance of a completion.

[102SS]

One final thought on this past season and playoffs.

I know that Bills Mafia are upset about losing this game but we need to have a bit of perspective on all of this.

28 other teams would have loved to be in the Bills position in the Final 4.

Just a few short years ago the Bills were a poorly run organization that couldn't even make the playoffs and for 17 years the fans hoped just for a ticket to the dance.

Now they are a perennial contender each season.

I know we want a Championship but the NFL is more an entertainment gig than a true competition...this isn't sour grapes on my part...as soon as they got in bed with gambling they lost all credibility plus they do not employ a fulltime contingent of on field officials.

They refuse to go with younger full time refs that every other major sport has(well I guess baseball still has a few blind old guys).

In the playoffs they don't even use the whole crew that the head official worked with the full season.

Please watch for entertainment purposes only...would you bet on the WWF?

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

All this nonsense about the NFL being in the bag for the Chiefs... if it makes a person feel better to think that, go ahead. But here's the reality of the situation.

https://sports.yahoo.com/no--repeat-...201943037.html

It's a good article, and worth reading, but here's the bottom line -

For there to be a major conspiracy behind this means someone — presumably Goodell — is willing to risk unemployment, shame and multiple federal felonies to dictate who makes the Super Bowl. It would need the cooperation of referees, among others.

and this -

Regardless, if there was a vast plot to do this — say the NFL really did want New England to win back in the day — why would other team owners go along with it? These are hyper-competitive, egomaniacal billionaires. Their happiness is built on fawning praise from fans, not helping Fox or CBS score an extra percentage point or two of television ratings.

Goodell makes like $40 million per year. Only a complete lunatic would risk that job, and the probability of spending a great portion of the rest of his life in jail, to get a result that personally means very little to him. The games aren't fixed

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by Iron Lung Jimmy

All this nonsense about the NFL being in the bag for the Chiefs... if it makes a person feel better to think that, go ahead. But here's the reality of the situation.

https://sports.yahoo.com/no--repeat-...201943037.html

It's a good article, and worth reading, but here's the bottom line -

For there to be a major conspiracy behind this means someone — presumably Goodell — is willing to risk unemployment, shame and multiple federal felonies to dictate who makes the Super Bowl. It would need the cooperation of referees, among others.

and this -

Regardless, if there was a vast plot to do this — say the NFL really did want New England to win back in the day — why would other team owners go along with it? These are hyper-competitive, egomaniacal billionaires. Their happiness is built on fawning praise from fans, not helping Fox or CBS score an extra percentage point or two of television ratings.

Goodell makes like $40 million per year. Only a complete lunatic would risk that job, and the probability of spending a great portion of the rest of his life in jail, to get a result that personally means very little to him. The games aren't fixed

Then there is this angle

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bill-bu...220110530.html

[102SS]

Originally Posted by Iron Lung Jimmy

All this nonsense about the NFL being in the bag for the Chiefs... if it makes a person feel better to think that, go ahead. But here's the reality of the situation.

https://sports.yahoo.com/no--repeat-...201943037.html

It's a good article, and worth reading, but here's the bottom line -

For there to be a major conspiracy behind this means someone — presumably Goodell — is willing to risk unemployment, shame and multiple federal felonies to dictate who makes the Super Bowl. It would need the cooperation of referees, among others.

and this -

Regardless, if there was a vast plot to do this — say the NFL really did want New England to win back in the day — why would other team owners go along with it? These are hyper-competitive, egomaniacal billionaires. Their happiness is built on fawning praise from fans, not helping Fox or CBS score an extra percentage point or two of television ratings.

Goodell makes like $40 million per year. Only a complete lunatic would risk that job, and the probability of spending a great portion of the rest of his life in jail, to get a result that personally means very little to him. The games aren't fixed

Money makes everyone happy

These guys all want ROI

Allowing teams to sell up to 20% non controlling interest is proof positive this is all about money.

[102SS]

On to FA news..Jordan Phillips DT during locker clean out said I am not retiring but...I will only sign with the Bills.

He says bouncing around the league has shown him that this is the place he wants to be.

The rotational DT is a fan favorite and still makes plenty of plays.

Vet minimum is $1.25m for a plater with his tenure a very affordable option for a great locker room guy on his 3rd Bills stint.

[102SS]

The Bills vs Chiefs game was the second most watched non SB game in NFL history with 57.7m viewers.

The 2009 Packers vs Saints CCG in 2009 had 57.9m viewers.

One line in this article made me LOL

"The game, which aired on CBS, saw the Chiefs route the Bills 32-29 to punch a ticket to the Super Bowl in New Orleans in their quest for a three-peat."

The dreaded three point route

I kind of wish the game had been more competitive than a win by a FG

The Bills should be shamed to lose by that many points to the defending champs

Who writes this crap?

Funny how the title says the game was a thriller

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/oth...5a747db2&ei=22

[102SS]

On the Pat MC show Coach Chuck Pagano says that was a first down he also adds previous Kincaid catch on 3rd down was a first down.

He then does a hard eye roll when someone suggests that the 4th down call was reviewed.

No oar in the water for this guy and Baltimore just hired him as a Secondary Coach.