Rice? Let's define......... No bs.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by C586

Even though the evo is more race modded than the subi the evo is rice and the subi with rims isnt?? Please explain.. I see you drive a subi yourself. I think you are the same type of shit talker yourself it would seem.

What is, "more race modded?" Is it the stickers? The spoiler? The canards? The huge front mount? The seats and cage? Considering you can't see the interior of the subaru to rule out it having a cage and you know nothing about the performance of each, you are basing their performance on what? For all you know the subaru is sitting on coil-overs, 475awhp and a super stiff chassis while the evo is running bolt ons and 10,000 in exterior modifications and racing seats.

Here's the engine bay of that exact evo, real special, huh?



That evo was built for tokyo drift, has basic bolt ons, was converted to rwd and had tons of exterior and interior crap added on to look pretty for the movie. I originally put up two evo's, but the non-ricey evo pic got taken down from photobucket, so I grabbed a quick pic of a cleanly modded car off of my forum for an example.

The evo is made to look like a time attack car, but is really a sub 350hp movie prop converted to rwd that would likely get yanked by a stock evo, which is exactly why I used it as an example.

[PQ]

I'm not sure I have a problem with stickers as long as you actually have the equipment or affiliation to the sticker. Espec, a sponsor type deal.

Stickers of companies that aren't on your car is pretty tacky.

And IMO if you don't have a Camaro5 sticker on your car you are rice.

[CamaroSkooter]

rice - the starchy seeds or grain of an annual marsh grass, Oryza sativa, cultivated in warm climates and used for food.

But, when referring to vehicles, here's my take:

An asian-made car that is bone stock = import.
An asian-made car that has rediculous appearance mods = rice (riced-out also works)
Person who drives said rediculous exterior modded asian-made car = ricer

An import that has massive gobs of power does not "negate" the riced-out label if it is also has rediculous exterior mods. You would be wise to respect the vehicle if you know it has massive gobs of power, but that doesn't mean you can't poke fun of the driver's sense of style

That being said, the overwhelming majority of ricers (according to my definition above) have not modded their vehicle's performance significantly. Just throwing on a cold-air intake and a fart can does not constitute "significant."

And conversely, drivers who have significantly improved their import's performance through heavy modification typically do not partake in the "ricer" culture. At least, not anymore. The exterior mods done on their performance modded vehicles usually serve an actual purpose and are not just for show.

The blue Subbie posted earlier is not rice. And the Red EVO was a movie car from Tokyo Drift created to represent a Japanese car racing culture, so I don't think it qualifies for a "rice" label.

The definition of the term "rice" has changed over time. Just because it was created and used in a slightly bigotted way in the 60's and 70's does not mean it continues to carry that connotation today. The definition has changed over time, and people would be wise to recognize and accept this.

Just because a person calls your car rice does not mean they are belittling your asian heritage (if you are, indeed, asian).

[arod55]

Originally Posted by CC Performance

Yeah I'm not going to argue with you but our are wrong.
Rice is an old old term.. and was deragatory remark to call out a japaneese car .. then the asian car mfg market expanded and the term was used to call out any asian car..

ricer is a person and riced out is what you posted pictures of...
Whether you appreciate the style or think its a waste of money deosnt matter, I am correct....

Rice ricer and riced out... but the original term rice simply meant a japaneese car..


But answer your question I would call those cars hideous and stupid.. only one looks like a ricer the other is I dont know what but my guess is it was in Miami

I am from the old school, because I am old, but I agree it was always a deragatory term used by military folks, refering to Asian cars as rice burners instead of gas burning cars. Nowadays we are more tolerant as to certain terms we use in every day conversation. Only my opinion so don't take it out on the messenger.

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

The following is the new criteria for me:

1. Has to be a FWD or AWD setup with transverse engine.
2. Has to cost less than 35k on the MSRP.
3. Has to driven by someone under the age of 25, with a bad driver record of course.....
4. Has to have lots of stickers.
5. Has to have an over sized spoiler.
6. Has to have colored halos.
7. Has to have a fart cannon type exhaust set up or note.
8. Has NOS.
9. Has over sized guady wheels.

- If a car meets at least 5 out of the 9 criteria I listed it officially qualifies as rice. Even a domestic car can be rice in my eyes, its more the style of the car nowadays rather than where it came from.

So, the new Camaro's fall into this category? They're coming out with big wings on the back of them.

[TOMS1SS]

Originally Posted by calbert1999

So, the new Camaro's fall into this category? They're coming out with big wings on the back of them.

If you're referring to the Transformers 3 wing, then yes it would fall into the category of rice like. Remember it still needs to meet 4 more items on the list.

Edit: I'll say this before someone gets offended. If you like the riceresc visual modifications on your car that's great, my opinion on it shouldn't matter. I'm not trying to offend, all I'm saying is that it isn't for me.

[CAPT D]

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

If you're referring to the Transformers 3 wing, then yes it would fall into the category of rice like. Remember it still needs to meet 4 more items on the list.

Edit: I'll say this before someone gets offended. If you like the riceresc visual modifications on your car that's great, my opinion on it shouldn't matter. I'm not trying to offend, all I'm saying is that it isn't for me.

As long as the wing has a function I wouldnt consider it rice. FWD drive car with a wing thats rice. Gaint bookshelf wing on a RWD car rice the new wing on the T3 Camaro IMO isnt rice. Yes its mostly a visual add on but its somewhat tasteful.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by CAPT D

As long as the wing has a function I wouldnt consider it rice. FWD drive car with a wing thats rice. Gaint bookshelf wing on a RWD car rice the new wing on the T3 Camaro IMO isnt rice. Yes its mostly a visual add on but its somewhat tasteful.

Its a misconception that a rear wing on a fwd car is useless. When driven aggressively (like on a track) some fwd cars have the tendency to oversteer, which is ultimately cause by not enough rear grip. Adding downforce over the rear gives it more grip & helps to stabilize it. But for this to have a meaningful impact, it would need to be something like two or three hundred pounds of downforce at say 50 mph, and that means that the wing has to be pretty big.

[mlee]

Here you go... watch the video from the 2 min mark...

http://www.ricekiller.com/

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Its a misconception that a rear wing on a fwd car is useless. When driven aggressively (like on a track) some fwd cars have the tendency to oversteer, which is ultimately cause by not enough rear grip. Adding downforce over the rear gives it more grip & helps to stabilize it. But for this to have a meaningful impact, it would need to be something like two or three hundred pounds of downforce at say 50 mph, and that means that the wing has to be pretty big.

All, true. Problem is you have to be doing about 140mph. to get any benfit from a wing. Driving on the hwy. with one is useless so is a 10sec. drag race. Most seriuos dragsters have an extended spoiler designed specifically for drag racing, Nascar has a vertical spoiler for circle track and hot lap racing usually us a wing which is great on straight aways where they can reach some serious speeds, and lastly F1 racing has very special wings for same purpose. In all these cases these guys are doing some serious speed.
So, IMO ainyone driving any kind of car on city roads or hwy with a wing, I'd consider it not only rice but I'd go further to say it's fried rice.

[5thGenOwner]

Originally Posted by PQ

So what are the requirements for non-rice/rice?

Originally Posted by SSOOCH

If it's an Asian Auto it's rice. Even the GTR.

If it's got a V8 and is rear wheel drive it's a yank tank!

My work is done here...

I would say you are, once again, Spot On!

I always felt these are just (creative & possibly racist) terms of who created it, in my opinion. (Personally I hate PC, and remember the phrase "sticks n' stones..." so I'm fine with the terms)

When somebody modifies it to put the Folgers can exhaust on it... that's just a fool, no matter what make or model.

[TheReaper]

The name "Rice Burner" was coined in the 1960's for Honda and Yamaha motor cycles.
When the Japanese cars arrived in the early 70's the name graduated to them.
Ricer Burner = Ricer

[Milk 1027]

rice = tacky/tasteless modifications with absolutely no regard for performance

[truth411]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

It's not a domestic vs import thing, it's a stylistic waste of money thing. Rice vs ricer doesn't have a different meaning a ricer is someone who owns a car that's riced out. If the term just means Japanese than it's useless for descriptive purposes.

How would you describe these cars?





So these are ricey cars owned by ricers, but they're not rice? Riiiiight. That makes perfect sense.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ricer

Most people seem to agree.

I describe those as "FAIL" not Rice lol