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View Poll Results: ZL1 or GT500, Which one would you get?
ZL1 5 35.71%
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:57 PM   #953
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Color Gimme Sterling Grey!
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:11 PM   #954
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Color Gimme Sterling Grey!
lol HARSH!

Initial impressions...hmmm

It's certainly overwhelmingly powerful, but VERY docile at normal operating speeds/revs. Has a very throaty growl, but the supercharge is not quite as loud (in the cabin anyways) as I had hoped for. But, that's made up for by the exhaust which is many many times louder than I anticipated.

It does feel like a large car, most likely because I'm coming from a '99 GT which is smaller in almost every measurement. Feels like I'm sitting relatively low and the hood is definitely visible. Rear sight and blind spot visibility are both pretty good.

Interior is well laid out, though I'm still pretty unfamiliar with the buttons as I only have roughly 100 miles on the car, and a short time sitting in it playing astronaut.

Interesting that so far, my only complaint comes from the difficulty "I" find in pushing the right key on the steering wheel while trying to navigate through the LCD screen between the Tach/Speedo.

The transmission is difficult for me to judge, never driven a 6 speed, or a Short Throw shifter before.

The Recaro seats are VERY firm, yet quite supportive as you'd imagine. I don't have any extended seat time, so I can't say as to whether or not my back begins to fatigue with more seat time.

I've only attempted launch control one time around 3500 rpms, and it allowed for a small chirp and then the car took off (no idea how it's going to perform with my driving lol)

Am yet to use any of the performance measuring metrics, but they seem pretty straight forward and easy to use. Definitely for 'Track Use Only' because that's what the little red words tell me in the corner.

I've done 99% of my driving with the wheel in Sport mode, and was hoping for a bit 'tougher' feel, but perhaps that will come with more spirited driving as most of my miles have been at low city speeds, and 55-60 country road cruises.

I've taken a few city S turns pretty aggressively, but as I'm sure most of you will agree, it's tough to get a feel for handling when you're no where near the limits of a vehicle (see: curbs on all sides)

I don't really know what more to say other than I LOVE the look of the vehicle from the front, rear, and from angles on the side. Does look 'slightly' bulky in windows/mirrors I'm driving by, but in reality, that's true to form from a Mustang, let alone a Shelby version.

I've gotten LOADS of stares, though I'm not sure most of the people know what the car is since I live in a small town of about 8,000 people. And up until today, I'd never 'stopped' anywhere. My first trip somewhere was wal-mart for some flour tortillas and a couple young 20's guys followed me and were very curious. They weren't aware that the car had even been delivered yet. Funny because the one guy asked if I was test driving.

Been WOT 3 times in first gear and once it grabs, it pulls like MAD to the 7K redline. No WOT pulls anywhere else, and I've only had it up to 80.

So...that's a not-so-brief synapse of what I feel so far. Haven't driving it really hard.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:14 PM   #955
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Skip shift? Does the Shelby have it?
No skip shift on the 2013 Boss or GT500. In fact, there has never been skip shift on any GT500.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:14 PM   #956
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Wow!!!!!!!! My car would never go through a Super Car Wash.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:21 PM   #957
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lol HARSH!
Whoops I just realized it was yours! Sorry. I just think that color looks like something Papa Smurf would drive.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:38 PM   #958
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I see you are using that old argument. Quick vs Fast, thats what people who coulda shoulda won a race, but didn`t, use as an escuse, example: "You know, well, I ran umpteenth mph faster than him so I should have beat him" kinda people. Let me dumb it down for you further. He who wins the race wins the race. I don` care if you run 11.0@150 to my 10.8@127. I won. Period. Tell the guys at the race track next time you lose that you were faster because of your mph and watch them laugh you off the track. You sound like a Toyota Supra driver.

If that still doesn`t enlighten you here it is in plain English:

MPH does not win races, ET wins races.
More like 4.56 gears and lots of torque / slicks wins races.... That is if your setting your car up directly for the 1/4
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:41 PM   #959
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...and they now don't have a powertrain warranty.

When you start throwing mods into the picture, everything changes and the whole discussion just becomes an endless circle.

I guarantee you the GT500 has TQ nannies in it's factory tune. How much further ahead will the GT500 be with the same mods? (aftermarket CAI and tune)

All said, I wouldn't mind seeing the 6R80 auto in the GT500. They are plenty strong enough to handle the power as has been seen with the 5.0. That would be the ultimate dragstrip dominator IMO.
That's cool bro, but that had nothing to do with what I was saying lol. GMRULZ simply said that there may be something wrong with car, such as an insane amount of torque management. I'm aware of the GT500 could get tuned, but I was only talking about the ZL1's current predicament as to why it is not getting the times it should be getting.
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I fail,,,I loose,,,I will admit ,,I will not deny. Your mustang is unquestionably the best and fastest thing on god given earth. ,,,,,,please,it hurts me when you say the deny and fail thing. ONE MORE TIME,,,,I HAVE FAILED,,,,,I DRIVE A BIG FAT SLOW LS3 CAMARO THAT WILL NEVER,NEVER,NEVER IN ANY WAY OUT RUN A MUSTANG. AND MY CAMARO IS VERY UGLY !! YOU ARE SO LUCKY AND FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT COYOTE.
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Old 05-20-2012, 11:49 PM   #960
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Wow!!!!!!!! My car would never go through a Super Car Wash.
Jesus... Those must have been your brothers....

Who takes a 60,000 dollar car through an automatic wash?

I just used the hoses to wash the bugs off (they were bad- still on from truck ride and my driving) and clear the little bit of dust from my garage.

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Old 05-20-2012, 11:58 PM   #961
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It looks off without a front grill. That black looks nice though.
That's my favorite feature.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:01 AM   #962
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I think we live with 3 amazing cars that give us amazing power and sound for cheap that compare to some of finest sport cars on the road.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:01 AM   #963
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Jesus... Those must have been your brothers....

Who takes a 60,000 dollar car through an automatic wash?

I just used the hoses to wash the bugs off (they were bad- still on from truck ride and my driving) and clear the little bit of dust from my garage.

Hand detail starts Sunday.
My bad.... I thought you ran it through the car wash. Please forgive me.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:06 AM   #964
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Love true musclecar colours like this. Dodge (and Laborghini, oddly) do colour better than anyone. Give me bold non-metallic colours like this anyday.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:09 AM   #965
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very interesting... " the brakes are ridiculous" << as in good
" pretty impressive, impressive"
" I dont know how you guys make a live axel work this well..but you do"
" boss 302 guys better watch their step"
Well I think that sums some things up how it will perform on the track.

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Old 05-21-2012, 12:11 AM   #966
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a member here posted a well documented 12.02 run with a bone stock zl1 on his second pass ever with the car and provided video and timeslips. but you are right, 11's bone stock on a zl1 is highly unlikely.
Dont get me wrong the ZL1 will get its 11sec bone stock pass, but it will be far from an every day occurrence. Come the cooler months im sure we will see more than a few doing it.

Also i believe in the autos its just an aggressive transmission cal from GM to get the car in the 11's more often. Im sure GM will at least do that for the 2013 model year. Hopefully a bump in HP as well.
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