GM Reveals 2011 Buick Regal!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by returnofcc

You are cutting Lexus way short, Lexus is just as much of a luxury brand as BMW, Audi, and Mercedes

Forgive me if their fake exhaust tips, overpriced vehicles, and sucky designs lead me to certain conclusions. I've never heard Lexus and BMW mentioned in the same breath, seriously...nor do I think I ever will.

Seriously, though -- Buick and Lexus are and will be compared to one another, because they are really similar...and personally, I suppose I've just always seen Buick as inferior to Cadillac, which is in the same league as BMW/Audi.

Originally Posted by returnofcc

And I think all the Buick hate comes from the fact that it's always been an old man's car.

And hence my "unfounded" comment.

[coolman]

I'm trying, but the more a see it , it looks like a fancy cobalt. Buick still seems like the old man's car to me. I know they love them in china and that's why I think they kept them around.

[nova]

I never thought I'd say this but I could actually see myself driving a buick.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by returnofcc

And as for this specific Regal, compare it to the VW CC. That car is sportier and sexier, what is Buick aiming for?

I said it earlier, but I think it is worth stating again, IMO the brand most like what Buick seems to be morphing into is Volkswagen. This new Regal really seals the deal, the specs even sound like a Passat.

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Forgive me if their fake exhaust tips, overpriced vehicles, and sucky designs lead me to certain conclusions. I've never heard Lexus and BMW mentioned in the same breath, seriously...nor do I think I ever will.

Seriously, though -- Buick and Lexus are and will be compared to one another, because they are really similar...

I can't really speak for the latest LS, but I can tell you that I worked for a man who owned several dealerships in a rather affluent portion of South Carolina for a time after I left the auto industry, and one of those dealerships was a Lexus dealership. During that time frame, think CY1998 through CY2000, Lexus was heavily cross shopped with both Mercedes and BMW. In fact, many of the trade ins on LS sedans were in fact late model cars from those two brands.

As for Buick and Lexus being similar, I don't think that really holds true outside of the reality that they each compete in the 'near luxury' segment for both cars and suv's, Buick with the Enclave and LaCrosse and Lexus with the ES and RX. Outside of that, there is zero similarity between Buick and any other Lexus. As for Cadillac, at the moment there is no way we can really argue that Cadillac plays on the same level as Lexus does, they simply do not possess enough truly premium level offerings, even Infiniti comes closer since their lineup is currently more fleshed out in many respects. Cadillac absolutely has full premium brand aspirations, but until the CTS finally grows into a properly sized 5-Series competitor and they sprout a 7-Series/LS/S-Class/A8 competitor they just aren't flush enough with cars.

[returnofcc]

Originally Posted by syr74

I said it earlier, but I think it is worth stating again, IMO the brand most like what Buick seems to be morphing into is Volkswagen. This new Regal really seals the deal, the specs even sound like a Passat.



I can't really speak for the latest LS, but I can tell you that I worked for a man who owned several dealerships in a rather affluent portion of South Carolina for a time after I left the auto industry, and one of those dealerships was a Lexus dealership. During that time frame, think CY1998 through CY2000, Lexus was heavily cross shopped with both Mercedes and BMW. In fact, many of the trade ins on LS sedans were in fact late model cars from those two brands.

As for Buick and Lexus being similar, I don't think that really holds true outside of the reality that they each compete in the 'near luxury' segment for both cars and suv's, Buick with the Enclave and LaCrosse and Lexus with the ES and RX. Outside of that, there is zero similarity between Buick and any other Lexus. As for Cadillac, at the moment there is no way we can really argue that Cadillac plays on the same level as Lexus does, they simply do not possess enough truly premium level offerings, even Infiniti comes closer since their lineup is currently more fleshed out in many respects. Cadillac absolutely has full premium brand aspirations, but until the CTS finally grows into a properly sized 5-Series competitor and they sprout a 7-Series/LS/S-Class/A8 competitor they just aren't flush enough with cars.

All true, I would just like to add on and say that Buick may be turning into a VW, but they won't have any competitor for the GTI

[Hylton]

Another winner!

[AngryAmish]

If that car really is comparable in size to a Malibu(and I don't doubt Fen one bit), those pictures are incredibly misleading. It looks ALOT smaller to me.

So I'll reserve judgement until I see one in person. Except on the interior. It rocks.

[Mr. Wyndham]

I love the car...

...beyond that, I'm done in here. Too many experts for my taste.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I love the car...

...beyond that, I'm done in here. Too many experts for my taste.

I've gotta say I'm kinda surprised, this might actually be one of the better threads I've seen on this forum....ever. Thus far you've had a few GM die hards who don't like it and a Ford devotee or two who do, a lot of diversity here and the thread has still remained mostly civilized.