Yahoo article basically calls Chevy owners idiots....

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by vee8

I give up.

After several posts trying to explain what the hell I am saying, and people still can't make the connection, then so be it. Some people just spend their lives looking for reasons to be offended. It was a study. It made some sense.

Yes, I am hired by yahoo. They commissioned me to come in here, tap into the members of this site and find out more ways that they could offend you.

I hate being busted out like this, but there is no way that I could fool you. I am going to report back to Mr. Yahoo on the total failure of my mission.

Hopefully, on my next mission, I'll get the chrysler detail because those SOB's will buy anything.

You don't offend me, and neither does the article. It is poorly written and obviously written by a dope. Someone who feels they are elite and know everything there is to know about everything.. You cannot categorize groups of people based on what brand of car they drive once you realize how many people buy the affordable brands. Bentley's and Royces along with Porsche's cater to only "rich" "wealthy" people for many reasons. However it is smarter for a middle class person to spend the money on a car they can afford so a smart choice is a Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Mazda, etc. and save that extra buck or two. Buying what you can afford is the only smart thing about buying any car. The whole Mini Coooper discussion is silly at best since most do not fall into that category that buy that car... I know multiple mini-cooper owners and none of them fit into the articles mold... So I'll repeat, Yahoo has hired a really dumb analyst that has no reason making judgment calls and writing articles....Yahoo is losing its little credibility it has left by keeping these buffoons who write these elitist articles..

[Zhawk]

This article represents the worst of 'journalism' and it is a disgrace to call it that. And the author draws his own conclusions to fit the article he wanteed to write.
What's more is the he didn't show any of the methods that this survey was done with. Those methods and the questions themselves could be as highly questionable as the author. But, maybe they aren't.

It could very well be that the lower educational level of domestic buyers is due to other demographic circumstances, although this possibility is never explored. These people (and let's leave ourselves, as enthusiasts, out of it) could very well be doing the hard day to day work that our manufacturing, farming and most other industries are built on. They may have never had the money or chance at higher education.

As for higher education being the pathway to all knowledge, I'll just say that I've met way to many educated idiots to believe that.

The study may have been valid, the author's skew of it certainly is not. It was just another chance for a hack to prop himself and his viewpoint up. He wanted to take jabs and he wasn't going to be deterred.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by Zhawk

This article represents the worst of 'journalism' and it is a disgrace to call it that. And the author draws his own conclusions to fit the article he wanteed to write.
What's more is the he didn't show any of the methods that this survey was done with. Those methods and the questions themselves could be as highly questionable as the author. But, maybe they aren't.

It could very well be that the lower educational level of domestic buyers is due to other demographic circumstances, although this possibility is never explored. These people (and let's leave ourselves, as enthusiasts, out of it) could very well be doing the hard day to day work that our manufacturing, farming and most other industries are built on. They may have never had the money or chance at higher education.

As for higher education being the pathway to all knowledge, I'll just say that I've met way to many educated idiots to believe that.

The study may have been valid, the author's skew of it certainly is not. It was just another chance for a hack to prop himself and his viewpoint up.

How Yahoo's editorial staff let it thru is beyond me. Says alot about them as a corporation.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by vee8

Agreed. And this will drive the price of the domestics up and maybe I will then be buying foreign. Economics at play.

How will more customers drive the price up???!?!?

[AngryAmish]

Originally Posted by vee8

I do believe that educated people read the magazines. I KNOW they do. They make their decisions from those articles. I'm not making excuses for what they do. I'm just saying that is what they do. And WE all do the same types of things, too. We do the research and find the best 1/4 miiles times, best G forces times......we all do this. And then, once we make our purchase because of emotional factors, we then sit back and intellectually rationalize our decision. The educated people are no different than we are. Every one buys pretty much the same way, but we value different criteria.

It doesn't matter if I think it is okay or not. Makes me no difference what they do. Your point is valid about the research.....I don't know how scientific it is, but I put as much faith into the article as I do just about any article I read on the yahoo home page. I was just saying that it did make sense to me and I do think that the majority of "educated" consumers buy like this.

In a perfect world, with all things being equal, I wish that everyone bought domestic. It would benefit us all greatly.

Uneducated people read magazines too. There are alot of colorful pictures...
Only an idiot would base a major purchase on what someone else writes however. Its also idiotic to get numbers from magazines, because all magazines seem to have different numbers.

To be completely honest with you, I've pretty much given up looking at any of the car magazines all together because the information I've find on this site and a handful of others trumps everything put in the 'zines. The information is more reliable, it reaches me quicker, and since all of the websites are run by enthusiasts with no plans on making money off advertising, its usually done with a love and care not associated with big business.

Studies..."statistically speaking" by the way, are usually grossly off base. I did a little bit of independant polling myself today at work and found out that 100% of all GM owners use the internet. However, all but one of the BMW drivers didn't. I then had what Samuel L. Jackson referred to as a moment of clarity. All of the GM owners I asked were young, and all but one of the BMW guys I asked were older.

Now thats makes sense, doesn't it?

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by AngryAmish

Uneducated people read magazines too. There are alot of colorful pictures...
Only an idiot would base a major purchase on what someone else writes however. Its also idiotic to get numbers from magazines, because all magazines seem to have different numbers.

To be completely honest with you, I've pretty much given up looking at any of the car magazines all together because the information I've find on this site and a handful of others trumps everything put in the 'zines. The information is more reliable, it reaches me quicker, and since all of the websites are run by enthusiasts with no plans on making money off advertising, its usually done with a love and care not associated with big business.

Studies..."statistically speaking" by the way, are usually grossly off base. I did a little bit of independant polling myself today at work and found out that 100% of all GM owners use the internet. However, all but one of the BMW drivers didn't. I then had what Samuel L. Jackson referred to as a moment of clarity. All of the GM owners I asked were young, and all but one of the BMW guys I asked were older.

Now thats makes sense, doesn't it?

LOL Great work Man, I'm starving for a Royale with Cheese!

I hear you on the mags, if you want one that's always fun, check out http://www.camaroperformers.com/index.html

[derklug]

A few points.
1. Domestic auto makers tend to get a larger share of the older population, lowering the number of college grads and computer users.
2. The domestic automakers run a close second to Japanese in quality, and are slightly above the europeans. This fact is rarely reported.
3. Rolls and Bently owners run on a completely different track than 99.99% of people.
4. I don't mind being seen as foolish and buying domestic, I like the rumble of a V-8.

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by derklug

A few points.
1. Domestic auto makers tend to get a larger share of the older population, lowering the number of college grads and computer users.
2. The domestic automakers run a close second to Japanese in quality, and are slightly above the europeans. This fact is rarely reported.
3. Rolls and Bently owners run on a completely different track than 99.99% of people.
4. I don't mind being seen as foolish and buying domestic, I like the rumble of a V-8.

I like this guy. I agree on all fronts with the exception that it is hard to generalize Japanese cars versus American cars for two reasons: some cars from Asia are not Japanese (Hyundai and Kia namely) and each car class has its own leaders from year to year, which would imply that being slightly behind Asia is a matter of mathematical calculation. Is the US behind in the total number of cars produced that have quality issues or just the ones tested by quality-testing authorities? Which segments—the higher selling or lower selling—is led by domestic companies? Does the total number of cars from one continent that have a higher initial quality rating exceeding the values from the other continent get calculated into this equation? Is it a mean (average based on total production of all cars) or a median (average based simply on number of models and their corresponding scores) that we are getting when we calculate initial quality? Supremacy by ratings of quality can be disputed, if not by the method of math then by the testers themselves. If a magazine full of Ford ads does a test drive of a competing Dodge, would it be any surprise to find the Ford with higher marks? Quality is really hard to measure. If it were definite, true car enthusiasts would only enlist with one company whose marks are always highest in the most important category for enthusiasts: performance. Because quality is such a disputable category, car enthusiasts whose cars run on their blood and sweat for years cannot decide who makes the better car. Why is it that any of us relies on a magazine's—much less a website with no significant automotive calling, Yahoo's—hour test drive and visual inspection to tell us which car is superior?

[MrIcky]

Could y'all type slower- I drove ma Chevy to work and can't keep up on this here interwebs.

[Dr Jkel]

ME, I am just a dumb redneck from Alabama, a hardworking, tax paying, military loving, red white and blue Bowtie apple pie and football NUT. Now, this writer or whatever you would like to call him is truly, how shall we say, FULL OF SH**. For every study conducted with an OPINION one way you can find 25 more for the other side.

85% of people buy a car out of necessity, yes I know that may shock a few of us. So while I agree on one point that if you travel alot a Hummer H-2 might not be the vehicle for you, on the other side if you have a Landscaping business a Honda Civic. So does that make either one of the different customers more smart or just more practical. Until 2 years ago give or take a few, SUV's 4x4 pickups were all the Rave, Soccer moms driving Suburbans.

I have a 1992 honda civix dx, very basic car, as a daily driver 199000 miles and it gets 40 mpg, bought it when I was less Fianancially stable. It has given me excellent service on the other hand I still have my 1985 Silverado with 478000, plus some other new Chevy's, Hummer's and of course my 2010.

If I won the lotto today Chevy would still be my choice, If I got a Doctoracte degree and made 5 mil a year GM would still be for me.

I think this article was written for a reaction, and I am glad to see the reaction it got.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by MrIcky

Could y'all type slower- I drove ma Chevy to work and can't keep up on this here interwebs.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by Dr Jekel

ME, I am just a dumb redneck from Alabama, a hardworking, tax paying, military loving, red white and blue Bowtie apple pie and football NUT. Now, this writer or whatever you would like to call him is truly, how shall we say, FULL OF SH**. For every study conducted with an OPINION one way you can find 25 more for the other side.

85% of people buy a car out of necessity, yes I know that may shock a few of us. So while I agree on one point that if you travel alot a Hummer H-2 might not be the vehicle for you, on the other side if you have a Landscaping business a Honda Civic. So does that make either one of the different customers more smart or just more practical. Until 2 years ago give or take a few, SUV's 4x4 pickups were all the Rave, Soccer moms driving Suburbans.

I have a 1992 honda civix dx, very basic car, as a daily driver 199000 miles and it gets 40 mpg, bought it when I was less Fianancially stable. It has given me excellent service on the other hand I still have my 1985 Silverado with 478000, plus some other new Chevy's, Hummer's and of course my 2010.

If I won the lotto today Chevy would still be my choice, If I got a Doctoracte degree and made 5 mil a year GM would still be for me.

I think this article was written for a reaction, and I am glad to see the reaction it got.

+1

[ArkySS]

Yes I am an idiot and I have a fast car....now stay out of my damn way with your hamstermobile!

[AngryAmish]

Originally Posted by Revo1

LOL Great work Man, I'm starving for a Royale with Cheese!

I hear you on the mags, if you want one that's always fun, check out http://www.camaroperformers.com/index.html

I'm more of a Le' Big Mac guy myself.