Nissan GT-R

[Shadowsong]

I actually found an interesting video today.... it was the GT-R's 7:38 lap around the ring, with the Pagoni (or how ever the heck you spell that) Zonda's lap video right next to it, like a spilt screen kind of deal.

The GT-R and the Zonda were neck in neck untill the GT-R hit the wet areas (there were no wet areas the day the zonda's lap was filmed)...

Thats something to think about....

I'll post the link up if youguys want, I'll have to dig it up first.

[LSxcellent]

Originally Posted by stovt001

What is impressive about the GT-R is exactly what Shadowsong said, that there really isn't much fanboy hatred against the GT-R. Car guys from all aspects of the automotive enthusiast realm respect the car, and generally recognize that it is totally legit by nearly any standard.

Yeah. I don't care who you are... you respect Godzilla.

Nissan has done a good job of conveying the history of this name... that it has NEVER been a joke. It's always been a serious car. I just got my new issue of MotorTrend with the GT-R on the cover, and it ran the 1/4 in 11.7 at 149mph!!! That is o-my-god-I-crapped-a-little fast! Unbelievable.

It's a great car that will shame almost anything currently on the road (though I'm sure Porsche is readying a nice big bag of whoop-a$$ right now).

I doubt a faster car will come along (for the money) for quite some time.

~LSx

EDIT: YEP.. 149 looks like BS... not even the Bugatti Veyron can hit that trap speed! It only manages 139mph...

[Rock36]

HOLY BEJESUS!

If that thing is trapping 149 mph in the quarter...that thing is seriously underrated.

That is F'ING amazing....0-149mph in 11.7 seconds....that is phenominal. I almost can't believe it.

149mph with traction and good tires is easily a 9 second car in the 1/4 mile. I'm not exaggerating. Any car that can trap that high can reach 9s in the 1/4 mile. It has to be a typo, if not.....

GO GO GODZILLA

EDIT: Actually I did some searches and there are a lot of people calling BS on a lot of other forums about the 149 mph trap speed. If anyone here isn't familiar with drag racing...a 149 mph trap speed is seriously fast for a 3800lb car. You would need like 700hp to do that.

[SilverTurtle]

I'm here to tell everyone: you dont run a trap of 149mph and it only be a 11.7qtr. mile... you'd have to have the turbos turned WAY up to be able to gain that kind of speed in that short of a time and only run a 11.7... not only am I calling BS on this, but I am also calling BS on the "basically stock" GT-R running a 7:38 on the 'Ring... something is fishy here.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by SilverTurtle

I'm here to tell everyone: you dont run a trap of 149mph and it only be a 11.7qtr. mile... you'd have to have the turbos turned WAY up to be able to gain that kind of speed in that short of a time and only run a 11.7... not only am I calling BS on this, but I am also calling BS on the "basically stock" GT-R running a 7:38 on the 'Ring... something is fishy here.

Tell me about it...

either Nissan just overtook GM for being the worlds biggest under-rater of engines, or they're pulling something.....

[twigg107]

http://www.performance.tv/index.php/...t_nurburgring/

[Rock36]

The more I think about the 149 mph the more I think that trap speed is a typo or a total BS.

If a car that weighs around 3700-3800 and honestly has 480 bhp (not underrated severly) should only trap around 119mph. I think that 4 should be a 1.

[DGthe3]

Ok, so there is proof that a GT-R clocked that time on the ring. But what proof is there that it was running bone stock on everything? If the 1/4 mile numbers tuning is suspicious then so should the nurburgring times. It just doesn't make sense that a car that weighs more, has less power and torque, smaller engine, with worse track condition's would get a better time than the Z06. Since we know that the car can't shave off 600 lbs without people taking notice, they must have let the engine go nuts to get their times. Unless the laws of physics changed in a years time . . .

[twigg107]

Originally Posted by Rock36

The more I think about the 149 mph the more I think that trap speed is a typo or a total BS.

If a car that weighs around 3700-3800 and honestly has 480 bhp (not underrated severly) should only trap around 119mph. I think that 4 should be a 1.

I agree.... awd does eat alot of power so your looking at maybe around 400whp. 11's with 149mph is very weird.... sounds like a misprint like you said.

[RiceRocket]

"...uh, yeah...sounds like a misprint."
"...it definitely wasn't stock , with THAT time."


You dumbestic guys will say anything to discredit an up-and-coming import, won't ya?

Don't be haters....
LOVE the competition.

It's GREAT that the new GT-R will be out soon to destroy the domestics in '09 and 010
...cuz my Supra needs a rest.
LMAO

Hell, SOMEONE's gotta keep Detroit iron on top of its game, right?

[stovt001]

Ummm, do you actually know what you're talking about? Have you actually seen a car run 11s with a 149 mph trap speed? The two don't go together. Unless they lit off a JATO rocket right at the end, to get a 149 mph trap speed the ET would have to be far below the 11 second range. That's just the way the dynamic principles work. Notice no one is saying it isn't a good car. Everyone admits it will be good competition for the Z06 and Viper SRT10. But the fact is they did use cut slicks for the fast runs, and the trap speed and ETs just don't match. If that really is true, then that thing must not be very fast at all until its really moving, which doesn't exactly cast the car in the best light either. So you either have a nice, fast car running 11 seconds in the quarter with a 120 mph-ish trap speed, or you have a weird, near-undrivable lurch-mobile cruising along at full throttle until it randomly hits you with a wall of neck-snapping power. I'll go with the first car, thanks.

[RiceRocket]

No dude....149mph trap would put a car somewhere in the 9's....
Not the point.

Point IS....just appreciate that the Japs can build a badass car that will own the shyte out of a Z06, and quit talking so much crap.

It's like taboo to American diehards to admit anything is better than a Vette or Camaro.

and Corvette owners are the BIGGEST babies.

[stovt001]

I think you're missing the point then. Go back and read the entire thread to see what we're saying. Thanks

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by RiceRocket

No dude....149mph trap would put a car somewhere in the 9's....
Not the point.

Point IS....just appreciate that the Japs can build a badass car that will own the shyte out of a Z06, and quit talking so much crap.

It's like taboo to American diehards to admit anything is better than a Vette or Camaro.

and Corvette owners are the BIGGEST babies.

None of us are saying that it isn't a good car, but as far as 'owning a corvette', we just don't think the numbers are possible. A stock Z06 will run about 12 s and around 120 mph, with some stories putting the number as low as 11.8 and up to 12.3s. Anyway, it has a better power to weight ratio than the top spec GT-R (530 hp, ~3600 lbs). So it may be possible that the GT-R had 11.7 @ 119 mph but not 149. And this car costs 25% more than the Z06. However, this doesn't sound like something that will "own the shyte out of a Z06" which I beating them by sooo much that they are ashamed to think of their car as a performance vehicle. Beat it? possibly with equally good drivers. By a significant margin? no.

And a better comparison would be between the ZR-1 and the top GT-R (whatever they call it). The prices would be within less than 10%