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Old 09-21-2011, 07:57 AM   #71
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I'm not a toyota fan at all ,but I don't understand how we have any room to make fun of their fall from the top when we(meaning GM) just did it sooner. And, if we don't get our quality better we'll will be right back where we were looking for a hand out from the government.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:14 AM   #72
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Can't blame Toyota. Their cars were pretty damn reliable and nicely finished, granted that they don't have the looks or power.
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Toyota of 2011 = General Motors of 1990.
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I'm not a toyota fan at all ,but I don't understand how we have any room to make fun of their fall from the top when we(meaning GM) just did it sooner. And, if we don't get our quality better we'll will be right back where we were looking for a hand out from the government.
Quality is better if you haven't noticed. The same cannot be said for Toyota.
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:52 AM   #74
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Quality is better if you haven't noticed. The same cannot be said for Toyota.
I don't want to get into it ,but I can show you an entire books of service tickets from my 2010 camaro that would paint a very different picture. All I can say is that I hope your right when it comes to the ZL1. If I have problems with it like I did with my camaro ,well then I doubt I will be buying anymore GM cars. What I don't understand is that I have a fleet of GM trucks ,and they give us great service. But it seems like every time I get a GM car that it's nothing but problems who knows.
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I don't want to get into it ,but I can show you an entire books of service tickets from my 2010 camaro that would paint a very different picture. All I can say is that I hope your right when it comes to the ZL1. If I have problems with it like I did with my camaro ,well then I doubt I will be buying anymore GM cars. What I don't understand is that I have a fleet of GM trucks ,and they give us great service. But it seems like every time I get a GM car that it's nothing but problems who knows.
And I can show you the maintenance records for our cars that show...little to no major problems.
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