GM's dropping Saturn, Pontiac to become niche brand - Page 6

Muscle Master · 02-18-2009, 09:40 AM

For GM survival, good riddance :slice:

*DGthe3* · 02-18-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by camaropete

I have to tell you that my wife and I just bought an Enclave and it is extremely nice. I am thoroughly impressed. We looked at the Acadia and the Traverse and the Enclave was a step above in both comfort and fit and finish. And BTW, we aren't old. I didn't think I would like a Buick, but I really like this one. I would also say that Buick buyers are probably more loyal to Buick than Saturn buyers are to Saturn (just a thought, not backed by any fact).

Saturn is a low-end brand and margins are probably smaller than those of Buick or the other arms of GM. That's what this really comes down to - who can make money for GM.

Thats it's biggest problem. On higher end products its easy to make one car unique from another. But there is little real difference between a Malibu, a G6, and an Aura. Same with the Outlook vs Traverse. But there is a difference between those two and an Enclave..

*Mr. Wyndham* · 02-18-2009, 12:12 PM

Not really 'new' news...just official now.

Good to hear, actually, imo...less brands means less cars means less money spent on reproductions and more money spent on making already good Chevy's/Buicks/Caddy's better. And by niching Pontiac...they may have found a way to insure the survival of rediculous-for-the-times performance cars like the G8 GXP and keep the Pontiac name alive as it pertains to performance cars. This will be interesting to see how it plays out.....very interesting.

MidlifeZ28 · 02-18-2009, 12:29 PM

GM has to trim the fat and reduce costs on non-productive lines. They will not touch Camaro because it is their saving grace. Camaro is expected to help GM a great deal. Nothing will stop the Camaro.

KatarHol · 02-18-2009, 12:32 PM

Saturn has been dead for years,Pontiac died about 30 years ago. No loss.

Design1stCode2nd · 02-18-2009, 01:10 PM

So has Buick except for China and so is GMC as they are just rebadged Chevies. Chevy and Cadi is all GM needs.

Toyota/Lexus, Honda/Acura, Nissan/Infiniti

See the trend?

Georgie · 02-18-2009, 01:16 PM

why not make the G8 the Impala

Fandango · 02-18-2009, 01:53 PM

If this is true, which I think there is a lot of potential in Saturn, if Saturn is truely going to die off, I'm buying a Sky ASAP. That car is hot and will be a collectors item.

Fandango · 02-18-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Muscle Master

For GM survival, good riddance :slice:

Uhggg. A Hemi guy. And I thought I couldn't stand Stang drivers. Anyone sat in a Challenger yet? You stick and Camaro or Mustang in the trunk. It's a boat. And what killed Jeep and Dodge was appealing the trucks and cars to people who just didn't have the money. "Sweeeet" was a great comercial and marketing plan but when blue colar dude shows up do buy his Hemi, he's gotta sell the farm. Don't get me wrong. That Challenger is very nice and very retro and above all, American as apple pie, but my god is it pricy and huge!

I don't know if you guys watched Top gear with the Challenger and the CTS-V and ZR1. Didn't the CTS-V beat the Challenger? Oh and James May likes the new CTS-V, Clarkson loves the ZED-R1.

Fandango · 02-18-2009, 02:10 PM

IF Saturn is going under, you will see me buying a Sky soon. That will be a collectors item IMO.

PQ · 02-18-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fandango

Uhggg. A Hemi guy. And I thought I couldn't stand Stang drivers. Anyone sat in a Challenger yet? You stick and Camaro or Mustang in the trunk. It's a boat. And what killed Jeep and Dodge was appealing the trucks and cars to people who just didn't have the money. "Sweeeet" was a great comercial and marketing plan but when blue colar dude shows up do buy his Hemi, he's gotta sell the farm. Don't get me wrong. That Challenger is very nice and very retro and above all, American as apple pie, but my god is it pricy and huge!

I don't know if you guys watched Top gear with the Challenger and the CTS-V and ZR1. Didn't the CTS-V beat the Challenger? Oh and James May likes the new CTS-V, Clarkson loves the ZED-R1.

Baseball, hot dogs APPLE PIE, CHEVROLET.

Angrybird 12 · 02-18-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fandango

IF Saturn is going under, you will see me buying a Sky soon. That will be a collectors item IMO.

Suggestion, buy a Sky Redline with every option in the book... and store it for 40 years, it may be worth something then ..LOL

diddiyo · 02-18-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5

Does no one else feel like Buick should go before Saturn?

Buick's drivers are going to die in a few years while Saturn drivers will at least be around to buy cars for a while.

Mr_Draco · 02-18-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fandango

I'm buying a Sky ASAP. That car is hot and will be a collectors item.

Sorry but a Sky being a collectors items is just as likely to happen as the '10 Camaro being one which is not at all.

02-18-2009, 12:12 PM	#73
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	Not really 'new' news...just official now. Good to hear, actually, imo...less brands means less cars means less money spent on reproductions and more money spent on making already good Chevy's/Buicks/Caddy's better. And by niching Pontiac...they may have found a way to insure the survival of rediculous-for-the-times performance cars like the G8 GXP and keep the Pontiac name alive as it pertains to performance cars. This will be interesting to see how it plays out.....very interesting. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

02-18-2009, 12:29 PM	#74
MidlifeZ28 Drives: Yellow 2SSrs 2G1FK1EJXA9110386 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: U.S. Army, Fort Bragg, NC Posts: 199 View My Garage	GM has to trim the fat and reduce costs on non-productive lines. They will not touch Camaro because it is their saving grace. Camaro is expected to help GM a great deal. Nothing will stop the Camaro. __________________ Rally Yellow 2SS/RS with Black Rally Stripes & Ground Effects Package, Grey/Black interior, Yellow Engine Cover, Chrome gas cap, side accents, 20" Polished Wheels, rear blackout package. VIN: 10386 MSRP $40,100

02-18-2009, 01:53 PM	#78
Fandango (In Z/28 Therapy) Drives: 2014 SS Camaro (Sookie) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Zephyrhills, FL Posts: 466	If this is true, which I think there is a lot of potential in Saturn, if Saturn is truely going to die off, I'm buying a Sky ASAP. That car is hot and will be a collectors item. __________________ Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die.”

02-18-2009, 02:10 PM	#80
Fandango (In Z/28 Therapy) Drives: 2014 SS Camaro (Sookie) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Zephyrhills, FL Posts: 466	IF Saturn is going under, you will see me buying a Sky soon. That will be a collectors item IMO. __________________ Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die.”

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