Volt and Leaf not selling well, Volt sells just 281 cars in Feb.

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Once the gas goes up a little more you will probably see more tree huggers jump on board.

Future Volt owner...

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

When you're marketing a car that is essentially designed to save money (aren't enough tree huggers to float it), selling to the middle class just isn't going to work unless gas prices are astronomical. Don't let the "fair & balanced" media fool you, we have some of the cheapest gas prices of any modern nation.

I'm not fooled....trust me.

But who ever said the Volt was designed to save the driver money...? It's an odd question at first glance...but really think about it. At no point has anyone tried to convince anyone else that reducing fuel consumption was going to be cheap. Quite the contrary. The Volt is the "Corvette of Economy Vehicles" in every way imaginable. Performance is unbelievable...it's an icon in its segment...and, like the Corvette; you've got to pay to play.

I don't want to have to rely on gas...and frankly, I think the car is freaking cool. If I had a few extra bucks, I'd lease a Volt without a second look in addition to buying a Camaro. But the reality is I don't...many don't.

GM has seemed to recognize this and planned for it with the slow roll-out. There is a market for this car. It's not nearly as big as the market for Cruze, Focus, and civic, etc...but it's there. They just need time to develop this car some more to lower price, and get a foot-hold in the market (which is becoming apparent). toyota had the same hurdles to overcome when the prius was first introduced...

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I'm not fooled....trust me.

But who ever said the Volt was designed to save the driver money...? It's an odd question at first glance...but really think about it. At no point has anyone tried to convince anyone else that reducing fuel consumption was going to be cheap. Quite the contrary. The Volt is the "Corvette of Economy Vehicles" in every way imaginable. Performance is unbelievable...it's an icon in its segment...and, like the Corvette; you've got to pay to play.

I don't want to have to rely on gas...and frankly, I think the car is freaking cool. If I had a few extra bucks, I'd lease a Volt without a second look in addition to buying a Camaro. But the reality is I don't...many don't.

GM has seemed to recognize this and planned for it with the slow roll-out. There is a market for this car. It's not nearly as big as the market for Cruze, Focus, and civic, etc...but it's there. They just need time to develop this car some more to lower price, and get a foot-hold in the market (which is becoming apparent). toyota had the same hurdles to overcome when the prius was first introduced...

The Corvette analogy regarding the Volt is probably the most rediculous I've seen. If anything, the Volt is the anti-Corvette. In the Volt, you are not getting much VALUE at all. The Corvette competes with vehicles above it's price range at a BARGAIN price. There is nothing bargain about the Volt. With the Volt you are paying a PREMIUM on an idea, vs in the Corvette you are getting a BARGAIN on performance.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

The Corvette analogy regarding the Volt is probably the most rediculous I've seen. If anything, the Volt is the anti-Corvette. In the Volt, you are not getting much VALUE at all. The Corvette competes with vehicles above it's price range at a BARGAIN price. There is nothing bargain about the Volt. With the Volt you are paying a PREMIUM on an idea, vs in the Corvette you are getting a BARGAIN on performance.

You are not seeing the big picture...."value" is relative to the buyer. YOU and I value performance. Others in the marketplace do not. The Volt excels at it's game, as does the Corvette. To some, once the premium content and features is considered with the tax credit...it is a very good value.

The auto industry is now a 2-point spectrum...not a scale from worst to best...

[a_Username]

[usa1camaro1969]

And how is everyone's power-grids prior to the cars of the future plugging in? This winter in central Texas we had a cold spell that put such a strain on the grid the electric company had rolling blackouts. A lot of people were up in arms and they had to answer when it hit some of the hospitals(which it wasn't supposed to).
It wasn't that long ago i remember the northeast going through the brownouts as the strain was put on their grids.
What's going to happen when all of these get plugged in?

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by usa1camaro1969

And how is everyone's power-grids prior to the cars of the future plugging in? This winter in central Texas we had a cold spell that put such a strain on the grid the electric company had rolling blackouts. A lot of people were up in arms and they had to answer when it hit some of the hospitals(which it wasn't supposed to).
It wasn't that long ago i remember the northeast going through the brownouts as the strain was put on their grids.
What's going to happen when all of these get plugged in?

Perhaps people will realize both the cause and common variable in all these described situations and minimize the cause to its legitimate duties.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by usa1camaro1969

And how is everyone's power-grids prior to the cars of the future plugging in? This winter in central Texas we had a cold spell that put such a strain on the grid the electric company had rolling blackouts. A lot of people were up in arms and they had to answer when it hit some of the hospitals(which it wasn't supposed to).
It wasn't that long ago i remember the northeast going through the brownouts as the strain was put on their grids.
What's going to happen when all of these get plugged in?

our power grids over here are awesome. we only get rolling blackouts in the summer!!!!

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

No kidding, two cars that are currently in very limited production, one of which is sold only in select markets aren't selling a ton of units every month?

Stupid thread is stupid.

+1.... Every Volt that comes off the line has already been sold.

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by usa1camaro1969

And how is everyone's power-grids prior to the cars of the future plugging in? This winter in central Texas we had a cold spell that put such a strain on the grid the electric company had rolling blackouts. A lot of people were up in arms and they had to answer when it hit some of the hospitals(which it wasn't supposed to).
It wasn't that long ago i remember the northeast going through the brownouts as the strain was put on their grids.
What's going to happen when all of these get plugged in?

Nothing. Volt uses $1.20 worth of electricity per day if it requires a full charge.