FenwickHockey65's Great Thread of GM Knowledge

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Power isn't everything.

You shut your mouth sir!

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I like the RAM TRX very much...everything about it looks good except for it's price. I'm finding the 13 thousand dollars over a crew cab Raptor to be a hard pill to swallow. 700 HP is cool and all, but what would have been wrong with strapping the nearly 500HP 6.4 V8 in there instead, or maybe even having that as the base engine? If the TRX had been engineered for the 6.4 instead of the Hellcat, I'd bet it would cost at least 5 grand cheaper, if not closer to 10 grand.

Power isn't everything. If GM were to release the Silverado ZRX with the 6.2...sure it might be a bit outgunned but still anything but slow and/or underpowered. Also, It would probably be priced right with the Raptor.

I agree with KMP here. I know the Raptor and TRX are more baja style but I don't get the appeal of all that HP in a off road vehicle. I mean I get the why not approach but I don't get the practical approach.

Had they gone street truck route, yeah I totally get a 700hp truck. An off road truck? I don't get it

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by snizzle

Unless they release as a ZRX and a "ZRX-R." A two tiered approach. A base ZRX could be in the 50s and still compete without a SC. A ZRX-R in the 70s along with the TRX as a premium option halo model. Come in to look at the ZRX-R, go home with the ZRX.

I don't mind that idea

Originally Posted by snizzle

You shut your mouth sir!

Agreed

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I agree with KMP here. I know the Raptor and TRX are more baja style but I don't get the appeal of all that HP in a off road vehicle. I mean I get the why not approach but I don't get the practical approach.

Had they gone street truck route, yeah I totally get a 700hp truck. An off road truck? I don't get it

Same. But that's the FCA way of doing things, shove as much HP into a car as possible for bragging rights and to appeal to enthusiasts, practicality be damned. The ZR2 gets crapped on for being just a midsize truck with only a V6 but it's a good size and has good power for actual off road applications.

I'm assuming I'll be working a ton of crashes involving TRXs with owners who had no idea how to control all that power.

[FenwickHockey65]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022...e-sound-video/





C8 Z06.

[Bhobbs]

Isn’t that video at least a month old already?

[snizzle]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I agree with KMP here. I know the Raptor and TRX are more baja style but I don't get the appeal of all that HP in a off road vehicle. I mean I get the why not approach but I don't get the practical approach.

Had they gone street truck route, yeah I totally get a 700hp truck. An off road truck? I don't get it

You realize these vehicles don't actually go off-road? At most, some stray gravel in a driveway that was paved a while back. Practical is not the name of the game.

[DRKS1D3]

I certainly foresee GM taking a 2-tiered approach with the ZRX. I see an NA version and a SC'd version. I say this since, earlier this year, we found out that GM was engineering an LT4 for truck/SUV use. Having a cheaper NA version (~$50's) and a SC'd version (~$60's-70's) would be very beneficial in terms of appealing to a broader market and thus, producing more sales.

Produce a top-tier product and have it undercut both Ford and FCA in terms of price.

[FenwickHockey65]

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Same. But that's the FCA way of doing things, shove as much HP into a car as possible for bragging rights and to appeal to enthusiasts, practicality be damned. The ZR2 gets crapped on for being just a midsize truck with only a V6 but it's a good size and has good power for actual off road applications.

I'm assuming I'll be working a ton of crashes involving TRXs with owners who had no idea how to control all that power.

Originally Posted by snizzle

You realize these vehicles don't actually go off-road? At most, some stray gravel in a driveway that was paved a while back. Practical is not the name of the game.

Oh no I totally get that very few off these will ever go off road and the FCA strategy is just throw power at it...that's why i dont understand the approach ram took making it an off road truck.

[FenwickHockey65]

I guess cause off road trucks are all the rage these days.

[FenwickHockey65]

https://www.instagram.com/generalmotorsdesign/


I guess GM's sharing some of their designers' work now on Instagram. Some insight into early design work for current and future products.

[snizzle]

Fen, Chevy getting the multi function tailgate it looks like?

[CamaroSkooter]

I wish they'd make a smaller version of that tailgate for the Colorado