2011 Dodge Challenger SRT8 Rumored to get 6.4-liter HEMI

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by kevin2323

chevy did the same thing. and all it is is not having MDS and one having it. not changing the size of the engine per say.

I think he was making a back door slam at Chevy when he said that....

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

i dont think having a different engine for an auto and a different one for a manual is a very smart idea.

The "smartness" of such a move depends greatly on the many factors surrounding it.

For instance...On the Camaro, well over 50% of SSs sold were automatics (a significant amount). Had AFM not been used, and a modified LS3 not engineered, those cars would have rated probably around 23mpg hwy....But they did, so 50% of those cars sold and contributing to CAFE now have 25mpg hwy...hurting the average less.

Let Chrysler determine the "smartness" of such a scheme.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

The "smartness" of such a move depends greatly on the many factors surrounding it.

For instance...On the Camaro, well over 50% of SSs sold were automatics (a significant amount). Had AFM not been used, and a modified LS3 not engineered, those cars would have rated probably around 23mpg hwy....But they did, so 50% of those cars sold and contributing to CAFE now have 25mpg hwy...hurting the average less.

Let Chrysler determine the "smartness" of such a scheme.

Ah, the R/T already does this, 6 speed, 5.7, 376 HP non MDS and 5.7, automatic, 372 HP, MDS

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

The "smartness" of such a move depends greatly on the many factors surrounding it.

For instance...On the Camaro, well over 50% of SSs sold were automatics (a significant amount). Had AFM not been used, and a modified LS3 not engineered, those cars would have rated probably around 23mpg hwy....But they did, so 50% of those cars sold and contributing to CAFE now have 25mpg hwy...hurting the average less.

Let Chrysler determine the "smartness" of such a scheme.

I, still, think it'd have been nice for the L99-guys to have shared the same power as the LS3-guys, but it is what it is. It's not like there aren't aftermarket alternatives to change that so Besides, a little tweeking, electronically, on that tranny, and maybe a little mechanical muscle (converter) and that car would easily keep up and go right by stock LS3 cars. There's more than just power with automatic cars

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Stew

Ah, the R/T already does this, 6 speed, 5.7, 376 HP non MDS and 5.7, automatic, 372 HP, MDS

Don't they need to push MDS onto auto's because of pleasability; use the converter to soften the activation/deactivation of the MDS? I think as technology improves, we won't see the difference in power levels we do now; assuming it's because the MDS can't handle the cam profiles in the LS3, at least. I don't know what's the deal with the 5.7 HEMIs though.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by radz282003

Don't they need to push MDS onto auto's because of pleasability; use the converter to soften the activation/deactivation of the MDS? I think as technology improves, we won't see the difference in power levels we do now; assuming it's because the MDS can't handle the cam profiles in the LS3, at least. I don't know what's the deal with the 5.7 HEMIs though.

I am honestly not sure. i do know there wa some reason the 6.1 wasn't even capable of receiving MDS. Even with Honda's V6, there is a difference in power between the MDS auto Accord coupes and the non mds manuals. i do agree though, as the tech approves the HP gaps will dissapear.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by Stew

Ah, the R/T already does this, 6 speed, 5.7, 376 HP non MDS and 5.7, automatic, 372 HP, MDS

yeah was about to get to this.

good point.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

I think he was making a back door slam at Chevy when he said that....

yea it threw me off a bit lol

[a_Username]

They should do a lot more adjustments in order for the SRT8 to be competitive with the GT500.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by a_Username

They should do a lot more adjustments in order for the SRT8 to be competitive with the GT500.

that's the thing, they arent aiming for the gt500....which they should be but they arent.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by kevin2323

that's the thing, they arent aiming for the gt500....which they should be but they arent.

...then what are they aiming for?

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

...then what are they aiming for?

Who knows. It's Chrysler. Why do you think they not only got a bailout, but still may well go under?

They price of the SRT very close to a GT500 (and if it gets the 6.4, it should be even closer), yet it's completely outclassed by the GT500.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Who knows. It's Chrysler. Why do you think they not only got a bailout, but still may well go under?

They price of the SRT very close to a GT500 (and if it gets the 6.4, it should be even closer), yet it's completely outclassed by the GT500.

it's a low volume car, if they focus on the challenger they will go under faster than you think.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by kevin2323

it's a low volume car, if they focus on the challenger they will go under faster than you think.

That wasn't my point.