If Someone Was Stealing Your...

[fielderLS3]

Originally Posted by heRS

What would you do? If you would have done the same thing, like his support page.

Seems there are different stories as to how this went down. If they guy turned toward me, and I felt my life was in danger, absolutely, I would have done the same thing if it was me.

If the guy was just pulling out, driving away, etc....I personally would not have fired if I didn't feel my life was in danger...however, I support this guy and believe that that choice was his right to make.

Originally Posted by GbrilliantQ

I wouldn't of shot at a moving vehicle in a neighbourhood for an SUV. This isn't the wild west or the movies. A kid is dead now and for what? He shot as the kid drove away......

Let me guess, the murderer is pleading self defense?

I am very sorry you feel that way. If I were the DA, all I'd want to do with this guy is shake his hand. It is becoming more and more common to put the victim on trial, while at the same time giving all benefit of the doubt to repeat offenders who prey on the law abiding. That's a damn shame. At any other time in our history, no one would have debated the right to defend one's private property. It was universally understood, and quite frankly, we were safer and more secure for it.

[irocnroll]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

If the guy was just pulling out, driving away, etc....I personally would not have fired if I didn't feel my life was in danger...however, I support this guy and believe that that choice was his right to make.

The investigation points out that how the driver was shot was well after the so called victim felt his life was in danger. If his life was in danger, the thief would have been hit from the side, not the back. The victims story also doesn't add up. When he initially called the cops he claimed he shot at the thief for stealing his vehicle. It wasn't until later on that he claimed he felt threatened. Seems like hes trying to cover his butt now that the kid is dead.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

What you said is like me saying you have zero comprehension of what 99% of NON-gun owners.

We all define what is "normal" differently, and this includes guns, marriage, religious things, etc, etc.

You can pretend that you are in charge of deciding what percentage that I need to understand of your definition of what is "normal" about gun owners, or standard information about gun owners.

But this is also like a true alcoholic trying to explain to everyone why he drinks so much alcohol every day, and then getting upset when he meets someone who does not drink alcohol at all.

Both people have different definitions of what they think is "ok". And luckily we live in a society where we all get to define what is going to be "ok" in their own personal life.

If every single person has a different definition of "normal", then this is going to apply with how they feel about their gun (or car, or family, etc.)

I already made my points and they weren't censored or modified as if I was running for public office. What you do with your gun is your business.

I already said I do not care. I am not required to care, unless your gun goes off in a church and kills someone by accident. If you do accidentally kill someone with your gun at church, I can decide for myself who I am going to feel sorry for.

Oh wait, you should not read what I just said, because one single person said it is called "trolling" to speak your honest opinion online about something. "Motorhead" is not a troll for saying what he thinks though. He is somehow exempt because his opinion carries a higher value than mine. I forgot to first screen my thoughts with him to make sure he approves of what I want to say.....Yet someone else who has decided to change the definition of the word "Troll", to make it work to his advantage.....what else is he going to "change" to make it sound like what I say has no relevance, even though I can easily back up why I think something.

I repeat: I respect your right to have a gun.

" If you want to be george zimmerman, I have no intention to try to change you. That is your own person choice and you have my complete respect to go around shooting anyone you want " Quote 2001ragtop



This is why I called you a troll. If you can't understand why, I can't help you.

Once again this statement shows you just trying to get a rise instead of speaking your opinion. That is what a troll is.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by GbrilliantQ

I wouldn't of shot at a moving vehicle in a neighbourhood for an SUV. This isn't the wild west or the movies. A kid is dead now and for what? He shot as the kid drove away......

Let me guess, the murderer is pleading self defense?

25 year old is not a kid.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by SC2150

That is a murder charge, or manslauhter in most all states I know of, and here in FL we have the best concealed and self protection rights in the country and that is murder.

Only can use deadly force if your, or someone near you's life is in imeadiate danger. Google FL Stand Your Ground law.

He may deserve it, but the law is the law.

I do hope they dont charge him.....

Correct.

[Mr. iNCREDIBLE]

Originally Posted by BloodRain

He is dead because of his OWN CHOICES. If I had a gun I probably would have emptied the rest of the gun into him at point blank. This is why I don't own a gun. Blunt objects are fine for men. Gun owners are one thing only, scared for themselves/family/dog, and they think with a instant kill button that they get their manhood back and sleep sounder at night. Not giving thought to the lives it may destroy if it falls into the wrong hands. Its not about protection, we have locks on our houses and police for that. And if you don't trust your police maybe you should reevaluate your living conditions and go to a place that doesn't make you want to own murder tools. American culture is far too immature to operate firearms in this century, and has gotten to the point where it just creates criminals, because there is very little oppertunity. No regard for human life on both ends of the spectrum. And to those who think you have rights and are free in the USA, LOL. Can't even protest without getting arrested now for terrorism. Your stocks of guns arn't going to save you when they sick the military on its civilians. After they run out of oil filled countries with brown people to oppress its not going to be pretty.

Honestly I'm surprised this didn't end as 'Person shoots at thief, kills innocent person in opposing house across the street.'

gotta love the rantings of someone outside of the USA that has no clue about the breakdown of laws in the USA..

While I don't agree with a lot of what the last 2 administrations have done to this country, at least we haven't descended all the way into socialism like Canada has, you talk about the loss of freedoms and rights in the USA, take a long hard look at your own country first.

Your country took away guns rights and your murder rate by gun went down 14% but knife related murders went up by 40%, yeah you guys fixed the problem..

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...ng-report.html


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fix the mess in your country before running your diarrhea of the mouth about mine.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by motorhead

This is why we are doomed as a society because there are so many morons that have been brainwashed to think this way.

Once the guns are gone and people starting getting killed with knives, hammers, shovels or whatever else, these people will be trying to get rid of those things instead of trying to fix the reason for people wanting to kill or needing to out of defense.

Wrong, criminals will still have guns.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

25 year old is not a kid.

When he was killed by a gun, the media and non gun people like to spin things to make it look like us gun owners that want to kill and eat everyone would stoop so low as to kill a defenseless kid, instead of saying a 25 year old crook that has never contributed anything good to society. That doesn't make their point well enough.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

25 year old is not a kid.

not only is he not a kid, but that was his 5th car he's stolen in 5 years. with 3 convictions for possession of stolen vehicles. He's also been known to be armed with a knife in encounters with police. And he also has a count of assaulting an officer.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Well, I have to explain it in terms that all these people living in a fantasy world will understand.

I bet they believe that there is a real Easter Bunny that brings chocolate to all boys and girls too.

Of course guns will never be gone. Only to people that abide by the law.

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

Wrong, criminals will still have guns.

Read this post it explains that one.

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

They don't give any kind of psychological evaluation to guys who buy guns and carry concealed weapons. If they are truly insane, they still can carry a gun. The average person on the street has some kind of mental disorder. As long as no one ever tests them, then whatever their mental problem is remains completely concealed just like their concealed weapon. Just like the random guys online who drive sports cars too.

There is no way to tell the real reason why people carry guns. No one that I associate with has a gun.

If you truly feel like you have to carry a gun all the time and you are not a cop, chances are you will end up being a George Zimmerman one day. Have fun with that.

Didn't the aurora batman shooter have lots of guns? Didn't they say he is certifiably insane? If he can get tons of guns, then any psycho can get guns legally.

Didn't Jared Loughner have some guns? Is he not completely insane also? I'm just proving my point that truly insane people can easily get a gun legally.

This Gail guy may or not be completely insane. Hopefully he is perfectly sane and he just happens to be a sharp shooter who can take one single shot and hit someone in the back of the head in a moving car. That is very interesting that he did that so easily. And he did that so fast, he did not even remotely wonder if doing that might backfire on him later on with the police.

In that case, you better get off this site because you're associating with a crapload of gun owners right now.

Don't let the door hit ya.

[mcsoul]

Originally Posted by 2001ragtop

There is no way to tell the real reason why people carry guns. No one that I associate with has a gun.

You live in Dallas?

Don't get out much do you?

Even if your hanging at the local Starbucks drinking frappuccinos, probably half the hipsters are carrying.

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by mcsoul

You live in Dallas?

Don't get out much do you?

Even if your hanging at the local Starbucks drinking frappuccinos, probably half the hipsters are carrying.

:belly roll:

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by mcsoul

You live in Dallas?

Don't get out much do you?

Even if your hanging at the local Starbucks drinking frappuccinos, probably half the hipsters are carrying.

If we gathered all the guns in Texas alone we could probably fight World War II all over again.