GT500 Nurburgring time?

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by blackonblack2010

So you are saying if someone ran a 9.0 second 1/4 mile one time because conditions were perfect that you would say BS because they could not duplicat it again. Even if they ran 9.5 or 9.8 on the same day. GM has the video PERIOD. All it takes is one time with proof. They didn't just come out and say OH we ran 7:41 lap time, but just take our word for it. I am sure that manufacturers are aloted certain amount of time or even days to run on this course.

Not what I was saying at all. GM said from the get-go,when the released the information, it was their best run.

My point was simple, doing something once is relatively easy. Repeating something over and over with a similar result is truly hard. That was all. I'm not saying that the ZL1 did not run a 7:41 nor that it was not capable of doing it again (if not an even better time). I'm not sure how my post came off as questioning the validity of the time. Like you said, the time is well documented and is not in question.

[garcmol]

Now I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but has this "red" key issue ever been fixed? I believe that effected the Boss 302, right? I don't follow alot of Ford goings on, but could you see something like a "red" key for the GT500?

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by garcmol

Now I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but has this "red" key issue ever been fixed? I believe that effected the Boss 302, right? I don't follow alot of Ford goings on, but could you see something like a "red" key for the GT500?

the red key is now a pink key. Thanks to CARB.

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by garcmol

Now I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but has this "red" key issue ever been fixed? I believe that effected the Boss 302, right? I don't follow alot of Ford goings on, but could you see something like a "red" key for the GT500?

That's funny, you proclaim not to follow Ford information but you cite a very specific topic related to a very specific Ford model.

What exactly was the issue you were referencing?

[garcmol]

Originally Posted by tooslow

That's funny, you proclaim not to follow Ford information but you cite a very specific topic related to a very specific Ford model.

What exactly was the issue you were referencing?

And very much at the forefront of automotive news. You don't have to look hard to find out about this topic. I'm a car guy. Don't really care what the make. If it performs, great. If you can make it better, even better.

The "pink" key I guess it's called now, is what I was referring to.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by tooslow

That's funny, you proclaim not to follow Ford information but you cite a very specific topic related to a very specific Ford model.

What exactly was the issue you were referencing?

I think the issue he was referencing was CARB denied Ford's red key. The red (track) key that comes with the Boss 302 can access a more agressive performance "tune" if the buyer pays the $300 for dealer to load the "tune" that works with the red key only. However, this apparently makes the Boss a non-emissions car and CARB say NO NO!

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

I think the issue he was referencing was CARB denied Ford's red key. The red (track) key that comes with the Boss 302 can access a more agressive performance "tune" if the buyer pays the $300 for dealer to load the "tune" that works with the red key only. However, this apparently makes the Boss a non-emissions car and CARB say NO NO!

Wouldn't that only affect cars sold in California?

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by tooslow

Wouldn't that only affect cars sold in California?

And states which follow CARB..

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

And states which follow CARB..

Oh yeah, I forgot about the lemming states.

[SS 376]

Originally Posted by garcmol

Now I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but has this "red" key issue ever been fixed? I believe that effected the Boss 302, right? I don't follow alot of Ford goings on, but could you see something like a "red" key for the GT500?

I could see that, particularly as a way of maintaining the motor's longevity. Maybe you have a 581hp 'street' key and a 650hp "track" key.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by SS 376

I could see that, particularly as a way of maintaining the motor's longevity. Maybe you have a 581hp 'street' key and a 650hp "track" key.

the 5.4 bored to 5.8 can handle much more than 650hp. That is not the issue with the "track key".

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by tooslow

Wouldn't that only affect cars sold in California?

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

And states which follow CARB..

Originally Posted by tooslow

Oh yeah, I forgot about the lemming states.

California established the California Air Resources Board (C.A.R.B) in 1967 to regulate air pollution, and is the only state in the nation that established such an agency before the U.S. Clean Air Act was enacted in late 1970 to regulate air pollution on a national basis, and, therefore, California is the only state that is allowed to have an agency that regulates air pollution. Other states are allowed to use federal air pollution standards, or they may use C.A.R.B. standards, but they may not set their own air pollution standards. Currently, there are approximately sixteen other states that have adopted California's C.A.R.B. emissions standards.

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

California established the California Air Resources Board (C.A.R.B) in 1967 to regulate air pollution, and is the only state in the nation that established such an agency before the U.S. Clean Air Act was enacted in late 1970 to regulate air pollution on a national basis, and, therefore, California is the only state that is allowed to have an agency that regulates air pollution. Other states are allowed to use federal air pollution standards, or they may use C.A.R.B. standards, but they may not set their own air pollution standards. Currently, there are approximately sixteen other states that have adopted California's C.A.R.B. emissions standards.

I'm not sure about the other CARB compliant states but in CA you dont have to comply if you live in a county fewer then X amount of people, and the same might go for the other states. Its a VERY handy loop hole, just imagine the possibilities. You could put a freakin NASCAR engine in a 5th Gen or what ever else floats your boat.

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

California established the California Air Resources Board (C.A.R.B) in 1967 to regulate air pollution, and is the only state in the nation that established such an agency before the U.S. Clean Air Act was enacted in late 1970 to regulate air pollution on a national basis, and, therefore, California is the only state that is allowed to have an agency that regulates air pollution. Other states are allowed to use federal air pollution standards, or they may use C.A.R.B. standards, but they may not set their own air pollution standards. Currently, there are approximately sixteen other states that have adopted California's C.A.R.B. emissions standards.

Thank you, Mr. Encyclopedia!