Does anyone carry?

[SSOOCH]

I have a permit. Never carry. Why, I'd pull that thing out on the wrong bad ass and he would take it from Me and shove it up My ass!!!

[green_bumblebee]

I stand corrected; NC does not specifically have any laws on transporting firearms in a vehicle. The law simply states that it may not be concealed (w/out a permit) and it may not be within the easy reach of an occupant of the vehicle. I just remember being told that w/out the permit, firearms must be kept in plain sight, and should be unloaded.

[Ivas]

Damn, y'all play rough. :(
How 'bout just CARRYIN' a THICK STICK and TALKIN' SOFTLY.

Hang on dudes, that describes me just goin' out on a date...

[maroman1138]

Originally Posted by =Stephens=

With the concealed arms permit, it is legal to carry a concealed weapon in a vehicle within arms reach, loaded but not chambered. Most of the permits allow to carry in the majority of states. Does anyone who has a concealed permit carry their firearm with them?

It sure is and I sure do. I always have one in the chamber ready to go. I've been pulled over and all the officer will do (or he may do it himself) is ask you to unload it and put it on the passenger side of the dash. Just don't be a smartass because that will make things real hard for you. Not that I was ever a smartass but it's just common sense. Plus, people that have the luxury/right to have a concealed license should know how to act anyway. If I'm not mistaken, I think here in Texas you can have a gun in the vehicle w/o a license. I'm not a 100% sure on this but I think so. Just don't have any warrants (Kris!)

[maroman1138]

Originally Posted by =Stephens=

I was asking because I was curious on the subject. If someone were to try to hijack your Camaro, wouldn't you want to defend yourself and your property, if you felt your life was in danger? Or you had the ability to save someone else's life?

How many criminals would bring a knife to a gun fight?

Of course. But think really hard about that. Is the car worth possibly losing your life over or someone you love in the car with you? My wife's cousin's son was killed in a carjacking. Someone was carjacking him and when he pulled his the jackass shot him. He got a shot off himself before dying but the jackass is still alive. His dumb ass is paralyzed for life but he's still alive and that does not seem fair. So yea, you really have to think about these things.

[JETG]

Yep this is Texas and I carry for sure. People are just crazy now days, and in Houston you never know what you will run into..

[Mark's SS]

You have to watch your back at all times. You never know what you will run into now days.

[Ivas]

Are there some areas you would say are likely for carjackings? If ya' knew of such a place where by just being there would probably bring on a carjacking, what conditions would need to be fulfilled in order that the person IN the highjacked vehicle would probably NOT return from the carjacking alive? Just curious...

Is this "victim" of the carjacking least likely to survive if he/she is alone? Surely, yes. What about being armed with an unloaded weapon? Would the mere presence of an empty gun anger the carjackers enough to make their carjacking a full murder? Just curious...

How about the demeanor of the "victim"? What would bring on the highjackers' most murderous rage? Would it be when the "victim" were drunk and abusive towards the carjackers? Or when the "victim" were annoyingly quiet, yet still drunk to the bone? Just curious...

Finally, and most importantly, in which areas do carjackers most vilify and seek to destroy older mother-in-law types? Hmm,

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by =Stephens=

I was asking because I was curious on the subject. If someone were to try to hijack your Camaro, wouldn't you want to defend yourself and your property, if you felt your life was in danger? Or you had the ability to save someone else's life?

How many criminals would bring a knife to a gun fight?

It seems to me that no-one would feel very upset at a perpetrator's threat to car-jack your Camaro unless he threatened your life as in: "I've got a gun in my pocket get out of the car and leave it running!" You might follow his orders if it was you alone, but if your family is with you, call his bluff with your Glock 21 40 S&W! I suspect there are plenty of dead people who's final thoughts were, "He wouldn't really shoot me, would he?"

[Patrol.in.a.Camaro]

Originally Posted by KILLER74Z28

Nice post.

It is important to always remember JAM… I believe this is how the saying goes if I remembered correctly…

Jeopardy – Is your or your loved ones life’s in Jeopardy?
Ability – Does the assailant have the ability to cause bodily harm or death?
Means - Does the assailant have the means to cause bodily harm or death?

If all three are present then remember to squeeze and not jerk the trigger.
If one is missing from the three then stand down.

That's one way to look at it, although I've never heard it put in that way. Its the same exact way as we are taught, just worded differently. To justify any shooting, in any circumstance, you have to be able to articulate...
1. Means, 2 Opportunity, and 3. Intent. Its that simple. I like to run scenarios through my head and play them out, running each one by that criteria that is just to justify the use of deadly force. I believe doing that will help you make a better decision if you are faced with a like or similar situation.

As for me, I carry everyday, all the time, and everywhere. Being a Federal Agent affords me the pleasure of carrying concealed where other CCP holders are not able to. I love being able to skip the TSA security and all their crap and walk right onto an airplane with my handgun concealed. And I can say for certain that being a LEO has gotten me out of quite a few tickets, as I am a bit of a speed demon at times But basically, I carry all the time so that I have the peace of mind knowing that if a situation ever arises, be it with my wife and me, or anyone else for that matter, I will have the best opportunity to intervene and possibly save someones life.

[ABM/IOM]

Originally Posted by 11BEE

If someone wants to steal your Camaro and is not going to hurt you let them have it. It is not worth what will happen to your life if you shoot someone over a possession. You may be completely justified in shooting the person, but you will still have to hire an attorney for the Grand Jury presentation. Every shooting goes before one. Second, if you don't kill the person I can almost completely gaurantee you that you will be sued by them in civil court for damages. If you do kill them, someone in their family will sue you for damages. If you live where Castle Doctrine applies, you most likely will win the lawsuit, but only after ten's of thousands of dollars in legal bills. NOT WORTH IT. Finally, after you shoot someone you will need to get therapy. Police departments require it for a reason. I have already decided possessions are not worth a life, that is why I have insurance.

HOWEVER, if someone threatens my life or the life of my family I will fight back. That is not something that you can get back. If my kids are in the back of the Camaro there is no way they are being driven off with a car jacker. That is my line in the sand.

A gun is a strong tool in self defense, but it is the last line of defense and should only be used when you are in immediate danger. I would suggest to everyone that carries a gun to find a local IDPA club and start shooting with them. Learning how to use your gun in a defensive way is paramount to your safety and most importantly the safety of those around you. Adrenaline clouds your judgement, so shooting with IDPA helps you feel how it affects you.

Sorry for my soap box, but deciding to carry a gun moves you to a new standard in my book. That of a Sheep Hearder, and not a sheep. You have to train, learn and decide in advance when you are willing to take a life if necessary.

This is a 10 minute read, but nobody should carry a gun if they don't read this:

http://www.mwkworks.com/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html

Here in Florida we have the castle law. This states that you do not have to flee your residence OR vehicle upon the threat of danger. Once a suspect reaches into your car with the intent of harming you or carjacking you, you can fire upon them legally.

[=Stephens=]

You guys have given me alot of insight about this. I am in the Army Reserves and have served in Operation Iraqi Freedom, 3 tours. One of the first things we were taught was the Rules of Engagement. Verbal commands, show of force and use of force. We were trained to kill and not to wound the enemy. I have 19 years in and have full comprehensive training in firearms. Semi auto to fully automatic machine guns.

The question is if the situation were to happen of my life or my childrens lives to be put in danger, how far would the situation escalate? As stated, kill them and we go to court, wound them and we go to court, let them take your car and you live to drive another day? I just hope it never happens. Nebraska isn't a very high crime state where I live. For now, my firearm is at home.

[SamHouseIII]

Every Chance I get, Permit Holder, Normally I carry the Judge. I live out in the country and there are a lot of crack heads out cooking in rural OK.

[11BEE]

Originally Posted by ABM/IOM

Here in Florida we have the castle law. This states that you do not have to flee your residence OR vehicle upon the threat of danger. Once a suspect reaches into your car with the intent of harming you or carjacking you, you can fire upon them legally.

In Texas we have the Castle Law as well. The same rules apply. However, the grand jury will still be presented your case. This is the first lawyer bill. Almost every shooting goes to the grand jury, with few exceptions.

Also, even with those laws, the persons family you just shot WILL sue you. They will most likely use, but that is attorney two.

These may not always happen, but in they do in the vast majority of cases. This includes Florida.

BTW... They wife and I have our CHL and both carry dails all the time. I always have a pocket gun with me, either a Ruger LCP or Glock 26. Then most ofnthe time I have a Glock 19 in a Comp-Tac MTAC holster IWB.