The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[assasinator]

well, nyone driving in huntsville or clarksville tn will see mine running around. i bet there isnt more than 2 or 3 on the road around here. i have yet to see another one.

[8cd03gro]

I don't know why everyone is calling foul. Sure, it's possible the trap sensors aren't the proper distance apart, but it's also possible they are. What was the DA at this track? Mike Bowen's corrected trap on his 12.58 run is in the high 114's, motorweek claims a 116 trap... 375rwhp give or take a few, 3600 lb without driver, it's very possible. There may be something wrong, but frankly I'm not convinced EITHER way, truth or bull. We'll just have to wait and see what more cars run when they hit the track. 1/4 mile calculators are retarded. Each one I saw either wasn't specific enough to make any kind of real estimate (I.E. weight with or without driver? Wheel or crank horsepower? Doesn't ask for gearing at all, doesn't ask for 60', etc.) Besides, the only ones I could find with any specific information necessary gave me 12.3's and 12.4's as ET.

[8cd03gro]

When you headin' to the track? You should roll with one of the camaro guys and see how they compare.

[DeathChill]

I REALLY doubt that the 115 MPH trap is correct. However, maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

The numbers don't really add up as I understand it (see NHRA Stockers post). Some posters on the Mustang forums agree.

As I said, the Motorweek test was with a manual convertible, so it makes no sense when talking about this automatic hardtop's trap.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

And a cat back and tune..

and a CAI and a cool Heritage Grill...

[AmericanMuscle4.6GT]

I personally think its the greatest thing in the world for car enthusiasts that these 2 cars are so damn close for the first time in years........its true musclecar wars. Now, when a 2010 SS and 2011 GT pull up next to each other, the race won't already be decided like if a 2V pulled up next to an LS1. This has HUGE effects on the industry.......not only will Chevy be forced to up the ante again, but this means it'll start creeping up on the Corvette, which means they'll have to once again revamp that, and other automakers will be threatended once again, and.........are you starting to see a pattern?

[assasinator]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

When you headin' to the track? You should roll with one of the camaro guys and see how they compare.

i wont be headed back to bowling green for a while. i will run it at 1/8th mile tracks, but that isnt newsworthy. i dont know when ill run it 1/4 mile.

[2SSARMY]

Originally Posted by AmericanMuscle4.6GT

I personally think its the greatest thing in the world for car enthusiasts that these 2 cars are so damn close for the first time in years........its true musclecar wars. Now, when a 2010 SS and 2011 GT pull up next to each other, the race won't already be decided like if a 2V pulled up next to an LS1. This has HUGE effects on the industry.......not only will Chevy be forced to up the ante again, but this means it'll start creeping up on the Corvette, which means they'll have to once again revamp that, and other automakers will be threatended once again, and.........are you starting to see a pattern?

And then after a few years of awesomeness, back to 4 bang eco friendly cars that lead you into bankruptcy

[SuperSnake]

Actually its confirmed that a 4.3 is the best MT got with the GT the average driver scores between 4.4 and 4.5 and the quarter in 12.8 and 12.9 were as the GT500 is at a 4.1 and the qaurter at a 12.4

[AmericanMuscle4.6GT]

ok..........personally, 0-60 times are completely irrelevant and only impress high school kids (not trying to sound like a dick sorry if i offend anyone). its a measure of how well the car grips and acceleration in 1 or 2 gears, and in the end is almost completely about driver skill.......according to a G-tech, i pulled a 5.05 0-60 in my car (stock tires) with 1 adult and 2 kids in my car.......means almost nothing, especially when you're splitting hairs over a tenth or so.





unless its strictly a track car, my biggest indicator of how fast my street car will be/how hard it will pull is the trap speed. yea, i wanna lay down some good times but i feel like ET is about driver skill/grip and trap speed is a more accurate measure of how fast the car itself is.

[2SSARMY]

Your 1/4 mile pretty much depends on your 60' though. It is the hardest part, your launch. The rest is just shifting and letting the engine do its thing.

[AmericanMuscle4.6GT]

Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Your 1/4 mile pretty much depends on your 60' though. It is the hardest part, your launch. The rest is just shifting and letting the engine do its thing.

shifting can make a HUGGGGGGGGGE difference in my opinion, more than most amateurs realize. a successful shift must be a) fast and b) what most people neglect, you have to get back on the gas before the clutch reengages, otherwise you'll upset the balance and suspension load of the car and the nose will dip. it takes some torque to get the nose back up, torque therefore not converted to forward motion. i call it "bogging" at speed. also, shift points are CRUCIAL as they differ in each gear. i think its more important to consider what rpm you'll end up in the next gear when you let the clutch out, than what rpm you take the previous gear up to.


EXAMPLE: my car has somewhat close 1-2 gears, but the 2-3 shift is a wide gap. so i take 1st to 6400 (about 100 or so rpm after the power curve starts to fall off) but for the 2-3 shift, i take it all the way up to 6700-6800 before i shift to third, this gives me more momentum and keeps me close to peak torque when i get into 3rd, which i stay in through the traps. most people will even tell you its better to stay in a gear past peak power through the traps than to shift into a higher gear for the last 100 feet or so. Why? because you lose all of your momentum and suspension preload when you make that shift.

[2SSARMY]

Originally Posted by AmericanMuscle4.6GT

shifting can make a HUGGGGGGGGGE difference in my opinion, more than most amateurs realize. a successful shift must be a) fast and b) what most people neglect, you have to get back on the gas before the clutch reengages, otherwise you'll upset the balance and suspension load of the car and the nose will dip. it takes some torque to get the nose back up, torque therefore not converted to forward motion. i call it "bogging" at speed. also, shift points are CRUCIAL as they differ in each gear. i think its more important to consider what rpm you'll end up in the next gear when you let the clutch out, than what rpm you take the previous gear up to.


EXAMPLE: my car has somewhat close 1-2 gears, but the 2-3 shift is a wide gap. so i take 1st to 6400 (about 100 or so rpm after the power curve starts to fall off) but for the 2-3 shift, i take it all the way up to 6700-6800 before i shift to third, this gives me more momentum and keeps me close to peak torque when i get into 3rd, which i stay in through the traps. most people will even tell you its better to stay in a gear past peak power through the traps than to shift into a higher gear for the last 100 feet or so. Why? because you lose all of your momentum and suspension preload when you make that shift.

I agree shifting is a huge factor, but shifting is a lot easier to get down than launching. I seen GT500s, z06s, every like of them running in the 13s because they launch so bad (and some shift horribly). With a good launch these camaros can get into the 12s, as can the new 5.0. Trap may be an indicator, but I ran a 13.3 at only 106mph, a lot slower than the other cars running low 13s.

[SuperSnake]

IDk in the gt500 you have to get the feel for the car. I was able to run a 12.653 but when i first got the car i was running 13.065