2017 NFL Season Talk - Page 41

Joe M 2012 2SS · 01-14-2018, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Dallas

Sure he has hands on him, however I don't see him pushing. That's in your imagination.

What isn't in my imagination is the fact that you just called a curl a fade. No lie...that's lack of knowledge about football.

Your just arguing now to be arguing. I guess the video with Mills riding Jones like horse is in my imagination too. Jones is never on the ground until he does this.

I've completely proven my point...helped by your photo even more so.

Nothing more needed to say.

Steve Dallas · 01-14-2018, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe M 2012 2SS

Your just arguing now to be arguing. I guess the video with Mills riding Jones like horse is in my imagination too. Jones is never on the ground until he does this.

I've completely proven my point...helped by your photo even more so.

Nothing more needed to say.

You keep saying "riding like a horse", however I've looked at it too. This is AFTER Jones tripped and went to the field. Because he stopped suddenly, and Miller was trying to lay out with Jones, he ended up on top of him. Nothing bad about that since it was the result of Jones tripping. Plus, by then Ryan was well out of the pocket so that contact is allowed. Either way, it wasn't interference because of both reasons I just gave.

What you were watching was PERFECT coverage.

Royal Tiger · 01-14-2018, 06:34 PM

While it would certainly be entertaining to watch Atlanta choke in yet another championship opportunity, Philadelphia can absolutely continue thier own legacy of failures so everyone should play nice and save thier energy for yet another the Patriots cheat argument.

dantemcc · 01-14-2018, 06:44 PM

Kenny Camaro · 01-14-2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

While it would certainly be entertaining to watch Atlanta choke in yet another championship opportunity, Philadelphia can absolutely continue thier own legacy of failures so everyone should play nice and save thier energy for yet another the Patriots cheat argument.

You are soooo on the he money, Royal !

Joe M 2012 2SS · 01-14-2018, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Dallas

You keep saying "riding like a horse", however I've looked at it too. This is AFTER Jones tripped and went to the field. Because he stopped suddenly, and Miller was trying to lay out with Jones, he ended up on top of him. Nothing bad about that since it was the result of Jones tripping. Plus, by then Ryan was well out of the pocket so that contact is allowed. Either way, it wasn't interference because of both reasons I just gave.

What you were watching was PERFECT coverage.

The only one tripping is you. Jones did not trip, he was making a cut and Mills pushed down on his left shoulder. Jones stayed up by using his right arm on the ground and began digging his feet to the right, at which point Mills jumped on his back and pushed down on Jones. This is what put him on the ground, no trip occurred.

You haven't watched the video and focused in on Mills, and ignored the commentary, which is wrong. Or either your completely blind.

dantemcc · 01-14-2018, 07:29 PM

FLY EAGLES FLY

dantemcc · 01-14-2018, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

While it would certainly be entertaining to watch Atlanta choke in yet another championship opportunity, Philadelphia can absolutely continue thier own legacy of failures so everyone should play nice and save thier energy for yet another the Patriots cheat argument.

Hater. LoL

Royal Tiger · 01-14-2018, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dantemcc

Hater. LoL

Other than the 2008 Phillies, Philadelphia has one of the longest championship droughts in the US. I feel confident in another AFC Super Bowl champion as Minnesota is pretty barren in the winner column as well.

Steve Dallas · 01-14-2018, 07:40 PM

See...that's the thing. I have watched the video a LOT of times and focused on both Miller and Jones. I couldn't care less about the commentary. Unless there's another angle, the two videos I've seen show nothing that you describe. I saw ZERO pushing. I saw tight coverage, in his hip pocket the entire way. Jones was covered, and covered well. He tripped, fell to the ground and miller kind of landed on him, pushing himself upright before Jones stood up.

The fact is, other people also are seeing the same thing. The only one complaining about this is you. I've looked for any sort of alternate angles that might show more, and haven't found a thing...both in video, or in discussion about how bad a call it was.

This is all in your mind, dude. Plus, all the straddling happened after Ryan was out of the pocket so that stuff isn't even a penalty, even if you were right...which you aren't.

You'll figure it out some day, when you also figure out what a fade pattern is. You now have all offseason to figure that out. And the rules of football too. Have fun!

Silver14 · 01-14-2018, 07:47 PM

In the NFC game there was a pass a few minutes ago with a lot of contact. Troy Aikman said "There's some contact at the top of that route too. It's like bumper cars out there. Because Brees is out if the pocket there will be no call."

good to see the play by play guys know the rules.

Joe M 2012 2SS · 01-14-2018, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver14

In the NFC game there was a pass a few minutes ago with a lot of contact. Troy Aikman said "There's some contact at the top of that route too. It's like bumper cars out there. Because Brees is out if the pocket there will be no call."

good to see the play by play guys know the rules.

"Some contact" doesn't include holding, pushing to the ground, straddling a player.....and putting him on the ground.

Watch the play. Steve cant see both Mills hands on Jones back after 2 yards in the end zone...or both hands on his left shoulder pushing him down as he makes his cut.....Jones IS NOT on the ground at this point...he is on the ground when Mills jumps on his back. I don't suppose you can see this either, even though it's as plain as day.

The replay shows the truth. Deny it if you want...I don't care...ATL wasn't going to beat the Vikings anyway if they advanced...neither will the Eagles.

https://streamable.com/0oej2

dantemcc · 01-14-2018, 08:27 PM

Gonna be an epic game. All the whining falcon fans can watch and wish they were fans of a REAL team.

Silver14 · 01-14-2018, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe M 2012 2SS

Anyone can see it.

Yet you're the only one who does. Post some articles that agree with your opinion. All the articles I can find say Jones slipped, that the ball sailed through his hands, and that the offensive play calling was to blame for the loss. Your posts are the only thing I've read that claim there was a body slam and horsey ride through the endzone.

I've watched the video, I don't agree with your opinion. Apparently neither does anyone else in this thread. It's ok to admit you're wrong, especially after you've demonstrated you don't know the difference between a fade and curl, and after you've moved the goalposts in what penalty should have been called. It looks like you're grasping at straws, try to relax and be objective.

Lions next year

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Steve Dallas Commits weekly crime Drives: 2017 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Camano Island, WA Posts: 9,513 View My Garage	See...that's the thing. I have watched the video a LOT of times and focused on both Miller and Jones. I couldn't care less about the commentary. Unless there's another angle, the two videos I've seen show nothing that you describe. I saw ZERO pushing. I saw tight coverage, in his hip pocket the entire way. Jones was covered, and covered well. He tripped, fell to the ground and miller kind of landed on him, pushing himself upright before Jones stood up. The fact is, other people also are seeing the same thing. The only one complaining about this is you. I've looked for any sort of alternate angles that might show more, and haven't found a thing...both in video, or in discussion about how bad a call it was. This is all in your mind, dude. Plus, all the straddling happened after Ryan was out of the pocket so that stuff isn't even a penalty, even if you were right...which you aren't. You'll figure it out some day, when you also figure out what a fade pattern is. You now have all offseason to figure that out. And the rules of football too. Have fun! __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LT - Blue Barchetta IV I fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar. Tires spitting gravel I commit my weekly crime.

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Silver14 Drives: 2014 SIM 2SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 925	In the NFC game there was a pass a few minutes ago with a lot of contact. Troy Aikman said "There's some contact at the top of that route too. It's like bumper cars out there. Because Brees is out if the pocket there will be no call." good to see the play by play guys know the rules.