NEW YEARS RESOLUTION WEIGHT LOSS THREAD 2012

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Blk-Ice

What do you guyys think about juice fasting? I watched a documentary recently on Netflix called Fat and almost dead where this guy fasted on nothing but juiced fruit and veggies for like 60 days straight and it was due to his desire to finally tackle his weight issue (300+ Lbs) and try and get off of the drugs he was taking to combat health issues he had. His philosophy was that if the body can heal itself on the outside it can heal itself on the inside as long as you put the right things in it. so he used the Juice fast to kick start his system and it worked. He got off all the meds and lost close to 100 Lbs in the 60 days. He was checked by his Dr the whole way to make sure he was ok. Well long story short, i decided that i would try it too and i have been juicing for 23 days straight so far and i have gone from 278 to 253 so far and i feel a lot better too. Whats you guys thoughts on this? I really think you should try to watch the documentary before you blast it.

IT IS BULL SHIT!! If you want to kick start your systen eat right eand exercise. I can almost guarentee you that he may have lost weight( although I doubt that much) but it was not fat loss BIG DIFFERENCE

[bossbunny]

Originally Posted by Blk-Ice

What do you guyys think about juice fasting? I watched a documentary recently on Netflix called Fat and almost dead where this guy fasted on nothing but juiced fruit and veggies for like 60 days straight and it was due to his desire to finally tackle his weight issue (300+ Lbs) and try and get off of the drugs he was taking to combat health issues he had. His philosophy was that if the body can heal itself on the outside it can heal itself on the inside as long as you put the right things in it. so he used the Juice fast to kick start his system and it worked. He got off all the meds and lost close to 100 Lbs in the 60 days. He was checked by his Dr the whole way to make sure he was ok. Well long story short, i decided that i would try it too and i have been juicing for 23 days straight so far and i have gone from 278 to 253 so far and i feel a lot better too. Whats you guys thoughts on this? I really think you should try to watch the documentary before you blast it.

Idk alot about juice fasting... Maybe CFD does... I just know my sister is a nutritionist and she didn't think they were a good idea why, we talked about them along time ago so I can't remember why.

Edit: CFD beat me. There is your answer.

[Blk-Ice]

@ CFD: As far as exercising i can tell you, there is not much you can tell me about it due to i spent 26 years in the Military and just recently retired and on to a new career. I am in pretty good shape still and although i dont work out as often as i had in the past i just wanted to try it to see how my body dealt with it and so far it has been positive. I'm not loosing muscle and i'm still eating Vegetables along with fruit just fresh without all the chemicals and in Juice form. So dont be so quick to knock what you have never tried.

@Badgebunny: LOL....yea maybe he/she does or maybe he/she doesnt.......however i think he or she needs a valium because i didnt comment here to get Blasted! With that said, i shall see my way out!

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Blk-Ice

@ CFD: As far as exercising i can tell you, there is not much you can tell me about it due to i spent 26 years in the Military and just recently retired and on to a new career. I am in pretty good shape still and although i dont work out as often as i had in the past i just wanted to try it to see how my body dealt with it and so far it has been positive. I'm not loosing muscle and i'm still eating Vegetables along with fruit just fresh without all the chemicals and in Juice form. So dont be so quick to knock what you have never tried.

@Badgebunny: LOL....yea maybe he/she does or maybe he/she doesnt.......however i think he or she needs a valium because i didnt comment here to get Blasted! With that said, i shall see my way out!

Now, let's not get too serious here, I am not mocking something I haven't tried. I haven't tried dog shit but I'm pretty sure I won't like it. I am making remarks in light of the science behind it, here is why I said it. If you are eating/drinking nothing but fruits and vegetables where are you getting protein from, your body requires creatine/amino acids and other nutients that are only stored in your muscles or can be consumed dietarily. If you do not consume proteins your boday will canabolize it's muscle to get them, it's survival and there is nothing you can do about it, so in turn you will loose muscle, no way around it.

Actually, let's go a little further. Fruits are very high in fructose, and is very calorie dense. Fructose is a natural sugar but still a sugar causing spikes in insulin, when insulin is present in high levels ,like after consuming fruit, your body can not effectively burn fat, so let me ask, where is it getting it's energy from, the very small amount of carbs in veggies are not sufficient.

There are tons of rapid loss diets on the market people try them and drop a lot of weight fast, in a very unhealthy manner, and at the end of the "CRASH" diet you put all the weight on and then some because your body has been deprived for so long it hangs onto anything you eat for fear of famine again, and there is nothing you can do about it, it's been proven over and over.

[CFD]

BLK-ICE, we are not trying to bash you, whenever someone posts diets or exercise routines we always give input and then the reasoning behind it to educate ourselves. A good idea would be to stick around here and post your progress to educate us if you think we are wrong , we always track eachothers progress.

[bossbunny]

Originally Posted by CFD

Now, let's not get too serious here, I am not mocking something I haven't tried. I haven't tried dog shit but I'm pretty sure I won't like it. I am making remarks in light of the science behind it, here is why I said it. If you are eating/drinking nothing but fruits and vegetables where are you getting protein from, your body requires creatine/amino acids and other nutients that are only stored in your muscles or can be consumed dietarily. If you do not consume proteins your boday will canabolize it's muscle to get them, it's survival and there is nothing you can do about it, so in turn you will loose muscle, no way around it.

Actually, let's go a little further. Fruits are very high in fructose, and is very calorie dense. Fructose is a natural sugar but still a sugar causing spikes in insulin, when insulin is present in high levels ,like after consuming fruit, your body can not effectively burn fat, so let me ask, where is it getting it's energy from, the very small amount of carbs in veggies are not sufficient.

There are tons of rapid loss diets on the market people try them and drop a lot of weight fast, in a very unhealthy manner, and at the end of the "CRASH" diet you put all the weight on and then some because your body has been deprived for so long it hangs onto anything you eat for fear of famine again, and there is nothing you can do about it, it's been proven over and over.

That makes alot of sense. I was thinking I'm sure you get your vitamins but you probably aren't getting enough calories or protein.

[bossbunny]

Originally Posted by CFD

BLK-ICE, we are not trying to bash you, whenever someone posts diets or exercise routines we always give input and then the reasoning behind it to educate ourselves. A good idea would be to stick around here and post your progress to educate us if you think we are wrong , we always track eachothers progress.

Come back! We like to help people out! But we want people to take the right steps to making them selves healthier, and we want to help steer them from harm.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by badgebunny

That makes alot of sense. I was thinking I'm sure you get your vitamins but you probably aren't getting enough calories or protein.

You do get a sufficient amount of cals but they are comming from simple carbs.

If you take a look at vegetarians or especially Vegans you very really see a muscular one, even if they train because of inadequate amino acids and proteins which are essential for buiding and maintaining muscle mass. If you see one they are either generic freaks, are suplementing with protein powders and/or bcaa'a ( or steroids) which come from animal/dairy products but then they are true Vegan's are they?

[CFD]

Speaking about Quinoa. Sometimes people wonder how they can eat enough protein to build muscle without eating too many cals or eating a very high protein diet. Quinoa may be the answer, it is a compex carb that is high in "complete protein". By substituting quinoa with let's say brown rice you get the same or a little less complex carbs, fewer cals and higher protein all in one shot. With this method you can increase your protein intake to sufficient amounts and still maintain proper macronutrient ratios

[CFD]

Originally Posted by CFD

You do get a sufficient amount of cals but they are comming from simple carbs.

If you take a look at vegetarians or especially Vegans you very really see a muscular one, even if they train because of inadequate amino acids and proteins which are essential for buiding and maintaining muscle mass. If you see one they are either generic freaks, are suplementing with protein powders and/or bcaa'a ( or steroids) which come from animal/dairy products but then they are true Vegan's are they?

Actually, there is one way a vegan can produce good amounts of muscle and that is Quinoa, it has been becomming very popular as it is the ONLY known non animal food that has all essential amino acids, it is a "COMPLETE PROTEIN" unlike beans etc.

[TCAT]

Originally Posted by CFD

You do get a sufficient amount of cals but they are comming from simple carbs.

If you take a look at vegetarians or especially Vegans you very really see a muscular one, even if they train because of inadequate amino acids and proteins which are essential for buiding and maintaining muscle mass. If you see one they are either generic freaks, are suplementing with protein powders and/or bcaa'a ( or steroids) which come from animal/dairy products but then they are true Vegan's are they?

Originally Posted by CFD

Speaking about Quinoa. Sometimes people wonder how they can eat enough protein to build muscle without eating too many cals or eating a very high protein diet. Quinoa may be the answer, it is a compex carb that is high in "complete protein". By substituting quinoa with let's say brown rice you get the same or a little less complex carbs, fewer cals and higher protein all in one shot. With this method you can increase your protein intake to sufficient amounts and still maintain proper macronutrient ratios

Wow, I'm gone for a few days and missed a lot of stuff. This thread goes fast. This thread is of huge benefit to everyone reading, and I highly suggest people come back if they were deterred for any reason. We are all kind, intellectual, and fun adults that can offer a lot of insight on health and fitness. Chances are you'll learn SOMETHING just from reading, as no single person can know absolutely everything. Quinoa is one of the best kept secrets. It can be prepared in virtually endless ways, and has a fantastic nutrient profile. The aspect of difficulty in being a vegetarian that possesses a problem is organizing a diet that consists of "complete proteins" to ensure the body receives all necessary essential B-vitamins that the body cannot produce on its own. If someone is reading this thread that is a vegetarian (or vegan, etc) or is looking to lead their life-style this way, be sure to see a Registered Dietitian for a consultation. Organizing a proper vegetarian diet takes some thought and nutritional knowledge to fill in any voids that occur from deleting meats or possibly all animal products from your diet.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by TCAT

Wow, I'm gone for a few days and missed a lot of stuff. This thread goes fast. This thread is of huge benefit to everyone reading, and I highly suggest people come back if they were deterred for any reason. We are all kind, intellectual, and fun adults that can offer a lot of insight on health and fitness. Chances are you'll learn SOMETHING just from reading, as know single person can know absolutely everything. Quinoa is one of the best kept secrets. It can be prepared in virtually endless ways, and has a fantastic nutrient profile. The aspect of difficulty in being a vegetarian that posses a problem is organizing a diet that consists of "complete proteins" to ensure the body receives all necessary essential B-vitamins that the body cannot produce on its own. If someone is reading this thread that is a vegetarian (or vegan, etc) or is looking to lead there life-style this way, be sure to see a Registered Dietitian for a consultation. Organizing a proper vegetarian diet takes some thought and nutritional knowledge to fill in any voids that occur from deleting meats or possibly all animal products from your diet.

Welcome back, this thread is full of energy, everything happens fast around here. LOL

[bossbunny]

Originally Posted by CFD

Welcome back, this thread is full of energy, everything happens fast around here. LOL

This thread is fast fo sho!

[TCAT]

Thank you . I don't have much time, so I can't be here has often as I'd like. However, it's comforting knowing that you've done a great job answering various questions these past few days. This thread is a blast to be a part of.

On a side note, and not health related (sorry to deter), my build thread was deleted for some unknown reason :(. That was a big loss for me. I worked hard on that and I hope it can be recovered somehow. I noticed it was gone when I tried to post up pictures of some new modifications I had done today. I don't want to start a new build thread. What a bummer.

Also, I'm truly proud of all of you for continuing your efforts to live a healthier life-style, and doing this for YOU. Intrinsic motivation is very powerful (as is extrinsic), and it is the true clincher for life long devotion to health and fitness. Keep it up everyone! CFD, keep at it man, and you'll get there. You just found that "fire" you needed to take it to the next level. Life is funny sometimes, because little experiences like yours make you realize one or more reasons why you enjoy these fitness ventures, and why you seek them in the first place. There are so many different motivators that vary for each and every person. The key is for people to find their "fire", and to review it when motivation starts to dwindle, or start creating new goals, small short terms goals, and larger long term goals.

Without getting into too much detail, here's just one of my motivators.....I had the pleasure of working with individuals in one of the few facilities around the United States that specialize in providing therapeutic exercise and stretching for the physically disabled. It changed my entire life and outlook. Every time I walked into that facility, something or someone gave me a new appreciation for life and movement. At first, it was emotionally difficult to see various people struggle to perform the simplest movements that the physically able individual performs each and every day, such as holding a spoon to your mouth, picking up a pencil, turning your house key, getting up out of a chair, walking, conversing, brushing your hair or teeth, etc. Over time, speaking with these individuals, and providing therapeutic exercise for them often made their day, as well as mine. Many physically able people take movement for granted, and I sometimes did as well. We worked with people of all ages (young adult to the elderly) with all types of disabilities such as Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI), Stroke, Myocardial Infarction, paraplegic, quadriplegic, etc. Each and every person had knowledge and experience that everyone could apply to their own life. Many of these clients NEVER would have thought they would be in the position they are in now. I had one client that had a stroke and I was helping him learn to walk again, as he experienced a good deal of drop foot, and this exercise was very difficult. Imagine how it must feel to be used to quick treadmill walking or running that many people experience with relative ease (even though challenging), to now having great difficulty walking on a treadmill at a half mile per hour or less. He had to work unbelievably hard just to get walking again, and we were so proud to see how far he progressed. He also surprised himself more than a few times I'm sure. One day when we were walking on the treadmill, he explained to me that he planned to retire (he must be in his late 60's now), and read the newspaper in the mornings with his wife, and watch his grandchildren grow up. Now, his plans been altered. He now works out regularly in the facility to improve his health and overall lifestyle. He had a mixture of long and short term goals that would ultimately allow him to perform the activities of daily living on a easier scale. He explained how fortunate he felt to have such a great family and that his wife stayed with him through the entire process, and his children were a great help as well. He also knows it's crucial for him to continue his efforts in exercise and nutrition to live the most productive lifestyle possible, and he's very grateful to have a facility/staff to aid in the process. There was also another client that had the goal of learning to walk after his accident, and he only had a relatively short time to do so. This individual had the most amazing reason. All he wanted was to make sure that he could walk his daughter down the isle when she got married on that special day. Everyone that I had the pleasure of meeting while I was there absolutely changed my life, and I learned a great deal from their positive attitude and motivation to always do my best regardless of what curve-balls life throws at you. That's what they did, and they had a more difficult circumstances than most would. I looked at myself and other able bodied individuals in a different fashion after that. I started to realize that movement is precious, and many times we don't realize is enough until it's taken away from us, or something occurs to give it a second thought. Life is short, and it's essential to take care of the only body you'll have. If you treat it well, it usually treats you well. Find movement activities that put a smile on your face, and appreciate it for all it has to offer. It's truly a miracle.