270,000 Lexus Vehicles Sold with Faulty Engines

[PQ]

The Tundra definitely is ugly.

[Rallysport]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

The "Fail" is due to the extreme arrogance they have exuded about their quality and the image of infallibility they have created and brainwashed their customers into not only believing but arrogantly spreading.

I couldn't have said it any better. Now this recall in the midst of toyota's media BLITZ bragging about how much time and money they are spending on safety. These aholes might as well be politicians.

[Rallysport]

Originally Posted by PQ

The Tundra definitely is ugly.

Understatement of the YEAR. The tundra is also a worthless POS that couldn't haul its own sorry rustbucket ass out of a muddy field. What a joke.

[DGthe3]

more info:
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/02/w...-springs-w-vi/

Originally Posted by autoblog

Toyota's announcement of plans to recall 270,000 of its V8 and V6 models, including a number of Lexus sedans, was a little light on information. The company didn't say much about the issue other than faulty valve springs could cause a vehicle's engine to stall while driving. Fortunately, the same anonymous source that came through with some information during Toyota's recent pedal recall crisis has stepped up to fill-in some of the blanks.

Apparently, Lexus dealers have been encountering the defect for a few years. The fault typically manifests itself as a zig-zag break about three-quarters up the valve spring. This means that typically, the spring still has enough tension to keep the valve retainers in place, preventing the valve itself from going all hari-kari on the cylinder, cylinder wall and head.

That's not always the case, though. If the failure happens at high RPM, the valve can come loose, causing significant damage to the engine. According to our source, one Lexus GS350 incurred $12,000 worth of damage (in parts alone) during such an incident. And there's no word on who footed the bill.

Toyota hasn't said exactly what's caused the issue, though our source indicates that a Field Technical Specialist within the automaker believe the bad springs either have a manufacturing issue or a deep scratch – weak points that allow the part to fail prematurely. As for why the issue effects both the company's 3.5-liter V6 and 4.6-liter V8, we're assuming that both engines use the same valve springs.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/02/w...-springs-w-vi/

[The_Blur]

The saga continues. The most reliable part of every Toyota seems to be that it will inevitably be recalled for some quality issue. You can rely on that kind of quality to get recalled.

[FenwickHockey65]

Breakdown of affected models by model year:
2006 – IS 350
2007 – GS 350, GS 450h, IS 350, LS 460, LS 460 L
2008 – GS 350, GS 450h, IS 350, LS 460, LS 460 L, LS 600h L

[fielderLS3]

Wow, valve springs breaking? Are these interference engines? If they are, I'd assume that would mean complete internal self destruction when this happens. (Man Toyota seems to have a lot of engine problems).

Originally Posted by PQ

Maybe in another 15 to 20 years when we will be the age for that.

Ha Ha. I read recently that the new LaCrosse has by itself lowered the average age of a Buick buyer from 72 to 65. (So now the average Buick buyer is now just retired, not dead).

Originally Posted by Lauryn200

My Ford decided the tires it had...it didn't want anymore..especially the one in the rear passenger side.............damn those Firestones..............

Isn't Firestone owned by a JAPANESE corporation?

Originally Posted by HeHasReturned

Well you must be one in a million. I'd be much more concerned if my car burst into flames on the highway when I tried to wipe my windshield
Oh, and btw, I haven't even mentioned the 1.3 million GM compacts recalled for power steering failures. You're taking a turn at 50mph when suddenly you lose power steering...Yea, you get the idea. And yes, people did crash due to this

No one here has said that American cars have not been without (a sometimes extensive) list of problems. What we are pointing out is that Toyota is not perfect, which is contrary to what many people seem to blindly have faith in despite clear evidence proving otherwise. (I've said it before and I'll say it again, Toyota's "reputation" is actually more of a religion).

Originally Posted by nasty2ss

Amen brother Ill take my Tundra over a silveraldo any day

Just check your rear view mirror often. Parts have been known to fall off Tundras. (Not small parts either). And hopefully you didn't get the 5.7L (those have been known to break cam shafts).

[Rallysport]

toyota...moving forw..a...r..........uh.......NOT MOVING. Nice work, toyota.

[LOWDOWN]

Do you suppose, when Hendrick Motorsports loses one or two of their 4 cars in a NASCAR race to a bad batch of faulty valve springs, it's Hendrick's fault? Smaller numbers, total, to GM's soft camshafts awhile back...and they never did recall 'em...

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

Wow, valve springs breaking? Are these interference engines? If they are, I'd assume that would mean complete internal self destruction when this happens. (Man Toyota seems to have a lot of engine problems).

Sounds like they are.

[Rallysport]

Just check your rear view mirror often. Parts have been known to fall off Tundras. (Not small parts either). And hopefully you didn't get the 5.7L (those have been known to break cam shafts).[/QUOTE]

Usually, the spare tire carrier fails due to extensive RUST, thus dropping the heavy spare wheel and tire and associated carrier parts, right in the path of the vehicle following said turdra. Is that a hazardous defect, toyota, or just a safety device to warn tailgaters?

[Noturday]

Originally Posted by nasty2ss

Amen brother Ill take my Tundra over a silveraldo any day

hate to get off topic, but im a truck guy....i must step in



i know its a ford promo (im more of a chevy guy, but would drive a ford too) but.....yeah, enough said

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Do you suppose, when Hendrick Motorsports loses one or two of their 4 cars in a NASCAR race to a bad batch of faulty valve springs, it's Hendrick's fault? Smaller numbers, total, to GM's soft camshafts awhile back...and they never did recall 'em...

Well, if it was a bad batch of parts it should have been caught sometime before they were installed. And if it wasn't, then Toyota didn't do the proper engineering to get the right safety factor for the parts.

Smaller numbers ... did you happen to notice that this is exclusive to the Lexus brand who only sold 910k units in the US for the 3 affected model years?

[PQ]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Breakdown of affected models by model year:
2006 – IS 350
2007 – GS 350, GS 450h, IS 350, LS 460, LS 460 L
2008 – GS 350, GS 450h, IS 350, LS 460, LS 460 L, LS 600h L

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DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!

So is there anything I should be doing?